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» Zz.ee.vV replied on Tue Feb 8, 2005 @ 12:28pm. Posted in Word Association Game.
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person with fake account(s) on messageboards
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Tue Feb 8, 2005 @ 12:27pm. Posted in The Picture Thread....
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nice oldskool butt
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Tue Feb 8, 2005 @ 12:22pm. Posted in Hi I'm cinderella soul...
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I think it's just them venting leftover winter hate. my advice would be to combine ignoring and funny responses.. cant go wrong doing that.
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Tue Feb 8, 2005 @ 2:48am. Posted in Baby Born Without a face.
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She will, however, watch other people eat apples effortlessly through their mouth and enjoying them, too.
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Tue Feb 8, 2005 @ 1:34am. Posted in Word Association Game.
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hershey love
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Tue Feb 8, 2005 @ 1:30am. Posted in What are you thinking about now?.
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food. *heads to kitchen to raid the fridge*
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Tue Feb 8, 2005 @ 1:20am. Posted in Baby Born Without a face.
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^- exactly what I mean when I say sending the poor soul onto a road of SUFFERING.
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Tue Feb 8, 2005 @ 1:08am. Posted in cinema/art student video.
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bah it streams off of [ dreamworks.com ]

not a bad online marketing strategy hehe
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Tue Feb 8, 2005 @ 12:09am. Posted in Amazone v2.1 @ Societe des arts Technolo.
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I really wanted to come.. damn.. plans fucked up a bit :| ahh well next time!
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Tue Feb 8, 2005 @ 12:05am. Posted in Montreal old school rave scene 1994.
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I found Rave Wars to be pretty refreshing
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Tue Feb 8, 2005 @ 12:03am. Posted in Whois?!.
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it's who is online right now.... if you click on it and then on where they are on the right, you can see (most of the time) what they are doing.
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Feb 7, 2005 @ 11:51pm. Posted in Baby Born Without a face.
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Sure, when we get there I might change my opinion about the above.

And btw, let me correct myself - although Stephen Hawking's disabling ALS disease first showed symptoms when he was 17, he was self-sufficient and functional until about 32. He was married by then.
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Feb 7, 2005 @ 11:46pm. Posted in Baby Born Without a face.
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Sharon I understand your point... but as I've said before this is a THIN line.

Stephen Hawking led a normal childhood and teenage years, he only got disabled starting at 17... He had firm ground which to build on and a much more mature mindset to approach what happened to him.


She is not only much worse than his condition but KNOWS NOTHING ELSE... sure with appropriate care and nourishing she could become something, but how fair is it to her to send her on this ROAD OF SUFFERING yes i repeat SUFFERING?


You are viewing this from your own standpoint. "Not all people base their worth...." how will she even be able to ascertain this worth if she'll grow up shielded or worse, wide open to the world around her, like THIS?

No, it's not our place to decide whether she should live or die. It's her parents'. And they have made that choice. In this case, it's quite irrelevant how I'd make it if I was in their place.
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Feb 7, 2005 @ 11:26pm. Posted in Baby Born Without a face.
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Anyway I rest my case... in the beginning of this discussion I've mentioned that those opinions are purely my own, and I do not impose them on anybody.

What you all do is your own biz, I've merely explained what I would do in this situation and why.
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Feb 7, 2005 @ 11:24pm. Posted in Baby Born Without a face.
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You're missing my point... it's not about US, it's about HER. She will see the world as everybody being completely different, and she WILL see herself as inferoir even if everyone around her is 100% supportive - think about it, she will always be less independent and less functional (if she is mentally undamaged that is, and if thats not the case then my point stands even more).
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Feb 7, 2005 @ 11:18pm. Posted in Baby Born Without a face.
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Its not just being UGLY! And its not even just looks, she's disfigured, she will never look normal, have you considered the world view from INSIDE of that face?

Also, there's functionality to cosnider. Have you see the video? She's eating through her STOMACHE and breathing througha STRAW! How much do you think can they fix THAT? It's constantly being supported by machinery and other people, always undergoing painful surgeries, and most likely and early and painful slow death.

And you turn this into a LOOKS issue???

If she was male, or even an ANIMAL it would still be the same goddamn thing.
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Feb 7, 2005 @ 11:12pm. Posted in Baby Born Without a face.
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[ net ]
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Feb 7, 2005 @ 11:11pm. Posted in Baby Born Without a face.
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Thats what I meant about being selfish. I can imagine it must hurt extremely, especially if you are the mother who carried and nourished the baby. But I do believe what I've said above.


Small consolation can be found in the fact that modern science most of the time allows to detect cases like this in earlier stages of the pregnancy, and then abortion is probably even more of a humane choice. It also shortens the labor span having to be endured by the mother.
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Feb 7, 2005 @ 11:07pm. Posted in Baby Born Without a face.
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Exactly.

Cases get judged on how bad they are, and if the prospects are obviously dim, decision is made on the spot.
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Feb 7, 2005 @ 11:06pm. Posted in Baby Born Without a face.
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A life of perpetual suffering or no life?

I'd chose no life, and thats the least I could do for my kid.

In Russia, where I'm from, kids like this were put to sleep immediately after birth, and it wasnt even a question. I've just asked my parents about this and my dad's father and sister are doctors.
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Feb 7, 2005 @ 11:04pm. Posted in Baby Born Without a face.
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^- I've edited my reply..


There must be doctors and clinics out there that can probably justify this medically. There has to be a way.
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Feb 7, 2005 @ 11:02pm. Posted in Baby Born Without a face.
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i cant speak for anyone else since it's a highly sensitive issue, but is this *major knocks on wood* ever happened to me, i'd definitely choose euthanasia. better this than a life of suffering.


how much hope does she have of ever living a normal life?


if its just one defect... or a few that can be dealt with.. but you've seen the video.

i guess its a thin line, but it has to be drawn somewhere.
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Feb 7, 2005 @ 10:48pm. Posted in Baby Born Without a face.
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indeed.

i guess the unsaid question here is - how eithical is it of the parents to even keep here alive like this? what kind of life is she going to have, and for how long?

did the parents do the right thing by preserving life, in any shape or form?
did they do it BECAUSE they wanted to preserve life? or for reasons far more selfish?













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» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Feb 7, 2005 @ 6:42pm. Posted in Suck my balls.
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sure he does. hes a sponge... get it.. spongy tissue...






ahh why do i bother
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Feb 7, 2005 @ 2:38pm. Posted in So intimate In Da Jungle Feb. 5th.
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the party was nice and intimate, the core crew reprezenting. thanks Dom
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Feb 7, 2005 @ 1:30pm. Posted in It tis a sad day.....
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You said that, not me.
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Feb 7, 2005 @ 1:29pm. Posted in Omfgod Help!.
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Originally posted by O SKOO BIGWHEELA...

Originally posted by Ze`ev ...

jesus what kinda suggestions are these

the only one remotely making sense is Chelsea

its really simple.... IGNORE. Minimize contact to necessities (work related I guess) only. Dont waste time on this shit and dont let it phase you.

Be yourself. What everyone else does is their business and/or their problem.


Thanks I really needed some outside advice cos, the point I was at was just overwhelming i guess and I couldn't concentrate or think straight for that matter.
I feel stronger for some reason now and can look at it more as being his problem and how I can just remove myself from this situation. :D


Anytime :) Good luck! Just remember, there is no need to 'get back at him', it's just a waste of time and besides - if he acts fake he is bound to fuck up and make a goof of himself one way or another. People like that are their own punishment.

Always remember... imitation is the highest form of flattery.
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Feb 7, 2005 @ 1:25pm. Posted in the damious thread..
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stop the hate
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Feb 7, 2005 @ 1:05pm. Posted in ASK the boys.
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^-- wise words
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Feb 7, 2005 @ 1:04pm. Posted in Where Do You Live?.
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i live with roommates ans still walk around naked

well, almost naked.
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Feb 7, 2005 @ 1:00pm. Posted in It tis a sad day.....
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Originally posted by JOE OGRE...

Our formality has been destroyed by women because they give up pussy too easily nowadays.
Cats can skip the movie and go straight to dinner.


Hello!!?!?!?! This is a GOOD thing!

Fuck formality... bring in new age, empowered women who know exactly what they want. Skip the dinner too and hop str8 into the bed, goddamit.

I dont know what kinda guy you are Joe but it's people like YOU that make women shake and hesitate and be afraid of being called a slut when all she wants to do is get some booty just like we all do.

Go back to the Renaissanse.
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Sat Feb 5, 2005 @ 4:40pm. Posted in Omfgod Help!.
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jesus what kinda suggestions are these

the only one remotely making sense is Chelsea

its really simple.... IGNORE. Minimize contact to necessities (work related I guess) only. Dont waste time on this shit and dont let it phase you.

Be yourself. What everyone else does is their business and/or their problem.
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Sat Feb 5, 2005 @ 12:35am. Posted in The Picture Thread....
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we dont believe you... you have to show your C cups to convice us you're telling the truth :b :b :b
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Fri Feb 4, 2005 @ 6:16pm. Posted in The Picture Thread....
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that belt is a great way of saying 'blow me'
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Fri Feb 4, 2005 @ 5:37pm. Posted in soooooo nice outside.
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good point. invitation only this time. stay tuned :b
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Fri Feb 4, 2005 @ 4:14pm. Posted in soooooo nice outside.
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Originally posted by CINDERELLA SOUL...

does that really exist or is that name of the one big party room?


oh, it exists all right :sex
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Fri Feb 4, 2005 @ 1:45pm. Posted in soooooo nice outside.
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simon... orgy.. hehe bring girls
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Fri Feb 4, 2005 @ 1:42pm. Posted in soooooo nice outside.
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looks like everyone's horny

how about a big friendly ravewave orgy??

i have a huge room in my house with two huge beds and a comfy couch... whoooz down
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Fri Feb 4, 2005 @ 1:33pm. Posted in What made/ruined your day?.
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^- I resent that :b
» Zz.ee.vV replied on Fri Feb 4, 2005 @ 1:32pm. Posted in soooooo nice outside.
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oh cmon good weather just makes you feel good and go outside more

in winter theres more incentive to fuck tho.. to warm up.. :) but not to pick up cuz you're inside
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