Cinderella Soul: Rather than endlessly debate whether or not a "rave dance-a-thon" would be a good idea, why not just go ahead and do it and the people who are interested will show up.

actually no, i forgot all about him
so when u gonna come back :P

^^I've used pure powder in the past, but being in Thailand I buy these candy-sized 15mg pure DXM pills called Romilar. Easy to take and VERY effective

^^Nazi Methheads vs. Canadian Adrena-junkies!!

the MDMA slideshow by dancesafe is the shit

Not to the same extent, cuz the dancer is being involved in moving to the music and is not just observing. No one goes to a rave just to stand and watch the DJ.

Oh wow the POSSIBILITIES...

One thing that would defintely be on the list would be to take some blotter with me and feed LSD to Albert Einstein when he was in his 20's. Imagine the kind of crazy conversation that would lead to.

best of luck!

of course its good to be cautious, but there ARE plenty of religious/'spiritual' places around the world that offer free or very inexpensive training in various disciplines.

plus this is tantra so whoever's organising it gets to have sex with all the participants. hell i'd organise it!

JUST PLUG IT!

in T.O raves theres often a crew of really good liquid dancers performing. its impressive, but it often splits the crowd into "performers" and "spectators", who just stand around and watch the few ppl who are dancing. it kills the spirit. ideally, in a rave, everyone should be a participant and do their own dance thang, and not have to worry about whether others perceive them as being good dancers or not.

I bet they'll be tons of conversations that go something like this:

person A: wassup, its me
person B: wassup
person A: doin anything tonight?
person B: not much. u?
person A: nope, nothing.
*long pause*
person A: Say something dammit! We gotta talk for 43 more minutes to make this phone call worth it!

Yeah, i dunno what I was thinking when i wrote that

That's quite brilliant writing.

I can now call Togo for 3 mintues and pay only 99 cents? SCORE!

so many of the parties voted best of 2004 took place in and around 1619 william

hehe

^^i didnt know till after, dont make assumptions

Well, there is alot of stigma attached to drug use - not just in this board, but in society. Most people are quite ignorant about drugs and get all their information on the topic from government anti-drug campaigns and hollywood movies, so basically beleive that anyone who does drugs must be some kind of low-life junkie.

Then there are those who have used drugs but perhaps regret some of the things they've done, and might even hate that part of themself that wants to get high. So then when such people see others do similar behavior, they tend to take out their feelings and direct them at others rather than at themselves. A classic example of projection.

Year round. We do have such thing as heating, lol.

Where I'm at in Thailand right now its low 20's celsius during the day, and about 8 celsius at night. But since theres no heating, its freakin cold.

box trot

so its been 5 years already since the world was supposed to end

Had a lil adventure :)

Rented a motorbike from Mae Sai, the northernmost town in Thailand, right on the Burmese border. The roads to the peak of Doi Tung (Doi means mountain) were decent on the way up, and the views were incredible.

On the way down, I tried driving down a steep, more challenging side road in order to visit hill tribe villages along the way, primarily Akha. In one beautiful village called Ban Phahee, I met an english-speaking local who offered me a cup of freshly-roasted coffee, which is the commodity that the village farms and sells. He also mentioned that tomorow is the Akha New Year, which will be celebrated by the killing of a pig and a big feast. Would I like to spend the night in the village, he asked.

I replied that I had to return to Mae Sai to return the motorbike, but that I would try to rent the bike for another day and make it back before nighttime. What followed was a race against time, because I left the village at 5pm, dusk was approaching, and it was a difficult half hour drive back to Mae Sai.

The road down from Ban Phahee was quite dangerous. Paved all the way, but incredible steep and winding, with one blind turn after another. I had to pass a few millitary checkpoints on the way, but was waved through. Apparently since the decline of opium in the area, the army is focusing more on illegal Burmese immigrants.

I was nearly back at Ban Phahee when darkness finally set in, and with no streetlights, I only had the small headlight of my motorbike to guide me. All I could see in front of me was a small circle of light. Before I knew it, I arrived at an Akha village - but it was the wrong one! I had missed the turnoff for Ban Phahee and ended up somewhere further down the slope.

Fortunately, the first family in this Akha village that I encountered was exetremely generous, and invited me to have dinner with them and spend the night. If not for their display of kindness, I would have been in pretty deep shit. The dinner was delicious, and they allowed me to sleep on the only bed while the family slept on blankets on the floor.

About 7pm, when light came out, I was able to make my way to Ban Phahee and take part in the New Year's Feast. I missed the slaughtering of the pig, but got to see it being prepared. I was then invited to sit down and try to stuff as much meat in my stomach (and drink as much super-potent Akha whiskey) as I could.

"Doi Tung...

travelling after 4pm - when traffic thins out - is not advised except along the main routes. It is not safe to trek in this area without a Thai or hill-tribe guide simply because you could be mistaken for a United STates Drug Enforcement Agency agent (by the drug dealers) or drug dealer (by the Thai army rangers who patrol this area). You may hear gunfire from time to time, which might indicate that the rangers are in pursuit of the Mong Thai Army (MTA) or Karen rebels"

-pg 456, LP guide to Thailand

heh I'll tell you all how it goes 2morrow

so what are we gonna call the decade from 2000-2009

the zeroes?

Cool post. The "golden spiral" and the ratio phi is also something that fascinates me; apparently this ratio can be found everywhere in nature, and has been incorporated into numerous examples of art and archetecture.

I wouldn't call time a "pseudo" term, however. I think you're confusing time itself with the units by which it is measured. Of course, seconds, minutes and hours are completely arbitrary measurements. We could just as well develop a system of time that had, for example, 100 seconds per minute rather than 60. But time exists independant of how it is measured, just like objects have mass no matter whether its measured in pounds or kilograms.

As far as cosmological theory goes, time and space are fundamentally related to one another (just as mass and energy are, e=mc^2) and space-time is actually the fabric of the universe.

Your discussion of "conscious life" vs "total life" is also interesting, but again I must disagree. Sleep is not useless in one's development; its a time for dreams and for the assimilation of unconscious mental contents. Dream life and waking life surely complement each other. So someone who sleeps less will likely have a less active dream life, and this in turn will effect their waking life. Besides, someone who sleeps more each night might be more alert and aware during the day, thus more fully conscious than someone who is often drowsy. There are many degress of consciousness, not just "asleep" and "awake".

Lol. The human population, at any given moment, is exactly what the earth has allowed for that moment. So there is no such thing as 'over-population' because if there were insufficient resources AT THE PRESENT to sustance a given population, than that population would not have the resources to survive and thus would not have existed in the first place.

Now, its entirely possible that there are insufficient resources for the current population to continue to survive into the future, in which case the population will naturally shrink.

Nonetheless, as humans, its natural and expected for one to feel empathy with fellow humans, and to be sad when many die.

^^heh. I was out cold by 11pm. Best new years eve ever tho.

The definition of 'psychedelic' is actually 'mind-revealing'. So a psychedelic drug is a substance that reveals to oneself the contents of one's mind.

Of course, there are some drugs which are far more psychelelic and/or "intense" than others. On the one hand, you have drugs with mildly psychedelic properties like weed and MDMA, and on the opposite end of the sprectrum are substances such as DMT, with acid and mushrooms somewhere in the middle.

Some of the psychedelic effects that I've experienced on weed include: vivid recollection of past events, dreamy and abstract thought processes, intense introspection, time dilation, and even mild closed/open eye visuals. In fact, very good weed can feel alot like a small dose of mushrooms.

Asphalt Jungle 2, Sinaesthesia 2, some of the IDJ's, and of course mah final bash

Many people in Sri Landa, Indonesia, and even Thailand live very simple lives, and depend on a few meagre belongings for their entire livelihood. Take, for example, a family that subsists on fishing, and owes their existence to a single fishing boat that might have been passed down for several generations. Destroy this boat, and the family will likely end up as beggars. When something like this happens, and people loose their ability to make a living, its a catastrophe for the future of the country.

Finally I agree with you. Yes, it sucks that many "E" pills are cut, and this is of course a result of MDMA's illegal status. If MDMA were legalized and controlled, than this problem wouldnt exist.

But the point remains, if you order steak and get hamburger instead, you might be disapointed, but you won't die on account of eating the hamburger

I'm sure he's not confusing weed and alcohol. lol

And I second what scotty p said. Weed can be quite psychedelic when you haven't built a tolerance to its effects.

hi everybody

This has been quite a shock to me, as when the earthquake hit I was trekking in the mountains of northern thailand, so I didn't even find out until a few hours ago. I'm still trying to find out which areas were affected and whether anyone I know might have been there. Oh, and donating is a really excellent idea.

I had none of the above, but i DID get to go white-water rafting on christams. with someone else's family.

I think people who spend alot of time communicating on the internet develop a second personality, that only lives on the internet. And they can be one person in real life and a completely different person on the internet, and act and do things while under the influence of the internet that their real-life personality wouldn't even consider.

i miss ravewave circa 2002

Yes but apparently they also reject the more of cleanliness!

"So honestly,... do whatever you want... because the same way I'll suffer from the irreversible effects of smoking if I don't quit soon, you will surely suffer from the irreversible side effects of whatever drugs you use."

Exactly. But people need accurate and balanced information to make decisions. And an accurate assesment of MDMA is that the risk of dying from a pill is VERY low (according to dancesafe, 1 in 100,000). In fact, you are far less likely to die from taking an "ecstasy" pill than you are from a night of heavy drinking.

Rather than talk about theoretical situations, why not look at the actual results in Montreal. Between all the afterhour clubs, the raves, and house parties, I'd say there's over 1,000 people on average taking pills on any given weekend (possibly many more). And theres a good chance that many of them will not do so in a particularly safe manner. Some will take 3 or more pills at once, others will mix pills with alcohol or other drugs, and even more will forget to drink a proper amount of water. Yet when was the last time you heard of an ecstasy fatality in Montreal? I can't even think of one myself, and you can be sure that if there WAS one it'd be plastered all over the news.

[ dancesafe.org ] for more risk-assesment information

happy bday Dom!! best of luck for the year ahead

My stomach hurts already. :p

happy holidays Liam! :D