moui, en effet... ce sont des pattes ou des seins jaunes qui pendent à droite ? O_o

shit, man, t'es ben trop un génie pour moi. Avec toutes ces expressions mises bout à bout, j'y comprend plus rien. Je dois manquer de logique.

he should be friends with that RL peter pan guy.

Oh, wow, I hadn't read that before I saw it quoted in subflower's message

Look at that, we're forgiven ! Well, I, for one, sure am going to sleep much better at night ! HEY ! >.>

I sooooo don't want to think about Tipsy's erections ><

I heard stories.

Walking first season back to back killed it for me...

Maybe it's all those grey walls during the winter...

er, watching*

Wow...

Si vous voulez un board où les sujets peuvent demeurer sérieux et où les gens vont avoir la volonté de s'appliquer autant que vous le désirez, je vous suggère de deux choses l'une:

-faire un board privé / avec un nombre limité de membres
-faire un board qui a pas comme public cible des gens qui se sont fait influencer par pac man...


Sur ce, who wants more minous ?

J'ai une couple de lapins aussi!

Finally watched it. First 15 minutes I was thinking: "I'm glad they're saying it out loud". I found the rest rather depressing, though...

After playing Everquest for 4-5 years and Final Fantasy Online (okay, that one sucked, but I still kept playing because of some people... then because of habit+people) for 3 years, WoW finally cured me of my MMO addiction, in under 2 months.

It was interesting at first, but pre-raid levels, it truly is as much instant gratification as I feared it would be. Plus, pre-burning cruisade, the LFG tools were more retarded than anything I had ever seen, with the exception of some obscure korean games. It's fun at first to be able to do stuff by yourself, but community is what makes me stay.
I saw some raids, they were okay, but the deal breaker for me is that I am an anti-voicechat purist. I do not want to hear teenagers making bad jokes during a raid.

So, yeah, I found myself playing less and less, feeling my desire to log on fade away, and now, even though I sometimes still feel a twinge of desire to make a toon on some game or another, I like my life better now. I got what I needed out of these games, it's time for me to move on.


As to the monthly fee argument... Most people who play spend so much time a month playing them that it comes down to pennies per hour (cheaper than most other forms of entertainment), and play them for months if not years. Assuming that one is legit and pays for their games, a reasonable gamer, going through 2-3 games/month would pay multiples time more. I'm not going to argue any further on that, though, seen too many multiple pages threads on that point alone...

Vee-Vee:
À vrai dire, je n'ai pas vraiment envie de lancer un débat philosophique profond ici :) There's a time and place for serious discussions... and it ain't ravewave ! Mon intention était donc la suivante:
-appuyer celui/celle/ceux qui disaient que Greg tente de gagner un point en mettant assez de mots bout à bout pour confondre les gens; c'est à dire dire des choses qui ont l'air intelligentes en sachant probablement pertinement que ça ne l'est pas tant que ça (donc, sophisme).
-la définition de sophisme par la suite pour indiquer que le terme sophisme est plus précis qu'une simple injure lancée lorsqu'on croit que quelqu'un argumente mal (ben, en fait, c'est ça, mais c'est le simplifier de beaucoup ! :) )

Rockie_horror:
Comme on est sur internet, que la moyenne d'aptitude technologique des gens ici semble plus élevée que chez les madames du bureau et que ma source est un des sites les plus utilisés à part google, j'assume que, si le sujet intéresse quelqu'un, leur premier réflexe va être de checker un de ces deux sites... ou de poser des questions. Et même en me faisant traiter de "plagieuse", j'y répond ! woot! XD

Yup, c'est wiki, en effet. Ça ne me gêne absolument pas. C'est exactement la même chose que ce qu'on m'a montré (en français) dans mes cours de philo.
J'ai pas jugé de l'utilité de citer "le wiki", pas plus que je ne verrais nécéssairement l'utilité de citer "petit robert" ou "larousse illustré".

Je penserais plus à citer des sources dans un cas de débat sur une percée scientifique, mettons.

Props to Platon et Aristote, si ça peut te faire plaisir.

Yay for college philosophy classes.


Sophism - modern usage:

In traditional logical argument, a set of premises are connected together according to the rules of logic and lead therefore to some conclusion. We can also argue this backward in order to explain ideas. For example, you think of something based on a series of conclusions. A conclusion is a premise, i.e. a statement, based on an inference, that is, a piece of information. If the inference is a fact, then the conclusion has a factual base.

When someone criticizes the argument, they do so by pointing out either falsehoods among the premises or logical fallacies, flaws in the logical scaffolding. These criticisms may be subject to counter-criticisms, which in turn may be subject to counter-counter-criticisms, etc. Generally, some judge or audience eventually either concurs with or rejects the position of one side and thus a consensus opinion of the truth is arrived at.

The essential claim of sophistry is that the actual logical validity of an argument is irrelevant (if not non-existent); it is only the ruling of the audience which ultimately determines whether a conclusion is considered "true" or not. By appealing to the prejudices and emotions of the judges, one can garner favorable treatment for one's side of the argument and cause a factually false position to be ruled true.
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Logical Fallacy - common examples:

* Formal fallacies
o Argument from fallacy "ad logicam"
o Affirming the consequent or Denying the antecedent
* Faulty generalization Inductive fallacies like
o Biased sample
o Half-truths
o Hasty generalization
o Misleading vividness
o Package-deal fallacy or False dilemma
o Proof by example
* Questionable cause Informal causal fallacies
o Begging the question, circular logic "petitio principii"
o Correlation implies causation "Cum hoc ergo propter hoc"
o Post hoc ergo propter hoc
o Appeal to consequences "ad consequentiam"
o Appeal to force "ad baculum"
o Appeal to probability & Slippery slope
* Informal Relevance fallacies
o Irrelevant conclusion "Ignoratio elenchi" like Red herring
o Straw man
o Association fallacy
o Ad hoc
o Argument from ignorance, incredulity, belief, conviction... "ad ignorantiam"
o Appeal to emotion like Appeal to fear, Appeal to flattery, Appeal to pity, Appeal to spite...
o Wishful thinking
o Appeal to authority or Appeal to ridicule "Ad hominem"
o Appeal to the majority "ad populum"
o Appeal to tradition "ad antiquitatem"
* Informal Verbal fallacies
o Equivocation & Loki's Wager
o Undistributed middle & No true Scotsman

thread of the week on psyfreaks; "more freaks than psy ?"

it's not just for psyfreaks anymore !

(and, might I add, they're months in advance on intarweb trends ;) )

the word is SOPHISME.

I think it's great. Everyone in the country should quit their jobs and live off BS !

oh... wait...

gneh, bon marketing pour une bobinne de fil vide...

They sure do and it has many nice ... benefits... :)

Ok, you asked for it.

WoW = Fisher Price's my first MMO.

bleh.

That being said, I finally quit MMOs about 6 months ago, after playing 'em since 1999. I'm not even playing a beta I've been waiting for since... oh... 2002 I believe ?

yay for life :)

Die, Thierry.

À moins que tu sois du genre à sortir avec du monde qui sont du genre à partir des threads contre leur propre conjoint, j'vois pas de quoi tu parles =)

You got married by a tree and a fairy ?

Meh, I don't want to know if he'd know what to do. I know what I'd do if he tried, and at this point, it involves mutilation. I can't stand people who are being condescending to their significant other and still dare pretend that what they feel is love.




I thought they asked at the altar if you wanted to or not. He taped your voice saying "I do", duct taped your mouth and played it ?

When you're viewing your profile:

-click on "upload gallery image"
-upload desired image in the usual manner (I'm not gonna walk you through that part =P )
-after image is uploaded, it will appear at the bottom of the "upload gallery image" screen, with buttons on the right of each picture. The top button is "make main". Click it.

Wain, mais Thierry... toi ça fait 5-6 ans que j'te connais, pas 5-6 secondes =)

you're right... it's lazy retardedness... Whereas true leetspeak is more trouble than writing correctly !

rawali: [ www.rave.ca ]

Yeah... The only words you have adressed me, ever, were "Hi, I was just telling your boyfriend how much I wanted to do you". You certainly can talk about seeing women for their body.

{Thanks for the offer, but I'll have to pass}

Congratulations on your most evidently fulfilling relationship. It seems like not setting boundaries on the amount of crap you allow yourself to take from a person before getting the hell out of there is really working out for you.

But then again, drama is the spice of life, isn't it ? >.>

Since I said so.

Yes, but greek alphabet > leetspeak

I've only met you once, and the comment you told me and my bf makes me raise an eyebrow at your complaints about her sexual desires.

If I had issues with my spouse, complaining about it on a message board (especially one filled with idiots, apparently) certainly would not be an option I'd even consider. I mean COME ON.

Screwhead, I love that avatar.

I've smelled him from much closer than that and I can assure you, that was not his smell !

It's true. I could smell them from where I was sitting in the back seat of the car the other day.

#techno-quebec existe encore... (ou du moins existait ya comme 6 mois)

Pis ben euh, la photo, par la suite, je l'ai vu sur qq sites de raver porn >.> Pourtant, je montre pas de peau !

Hey wo là!

Pis j'étais majeure pour toutes les provinces ! Quand même !

well. that seemed stable...

mrawr!

awh, crap, 9999

It's a prettier number anyway !