fuck msn use:
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use aol messenger
fuck MSN!!!!!!!!!!!

I like your style about it, when i was booking events thats exactly how I would do it, it made things hard to deal with as people would get all wierd on me about me booking them to play but in the long run it made the most sense of all for everyone... its a hard thing to hear comming at you though and had to understand I mean I get told this all the time now that Im fpcused on playing out rather then doing up events and I have to realise I cant make it on to every line up out there as I just dont fit in musically all the time...

hey I get drunk usually by accident and about 2 times a year like last saturday night at the st elizabeth... how fucking lame of me... ;)

I have done so 2 times in my life and would do it a 3rd time ... its a great experince...

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montreal live electronic artists

I acctually saw one of thoughs in st henri on st antoine just east of atwater back in sept.
I could not belive my eyes

yup there is a iloveneon party at the sat 20 bucks with morgan geist...
good old knee slappin columbus ohio techno by way of nyc... ;)
its my bday also on the 31st so having a party with mogan geist to go to is a bit more then a treat for me....the sucky thing is Im working that night from 330pm to 1130pm :(
looks like NYE toasts are gonna be ghetto stylie in a park with a bottle of wine on our way to the sat... there is no way Im gonna stay at home sick on nye again this year...

ok ill try to come out but since I work nights often I cant make it out but I will try...

my head is genrally shinny blad it gets slightly fuzzy from time to time but for the most part its shinny...

I dont know about the bald head rubbing stuff but I would be open to hangin out ...
trading tracks and live pa / party throwing stories...
:)

isnt that the case with most folks out there... I am hated on line but liked a lot in person ;)

unibomer is a bit of a wanker...
but Im glad to see him getting gigs in another city finnally after many years of getting little or no respect... this guy deserves respect in the circles he plays in I just wish he wasnt such an whining snivelling wanker about it all...
see [ tribe.ca ] the techno fourm and youll get what Im on about... but props to this guy as hes a great dj...

its quite normal being a raw food eater. the key is to get your self a good juicer, a good food deydrator and a good food processor as these are going to be your tools which you will use the most ot make things. being araw food eater only means you dont cook for but you can process foods so that they change textures or become some thing else like make spreads out of the pulp from the juices your makeing. the key is to have a greeen vegtable juice at least once a day and the rest of easy... one down side to it all is that you shit an aweful lot... :)

cool check your private messages ...

awww your always nice to me: louise says hi...
:)

Im porting it t OS X some time soon, Im working though to have it work as a plug to another applications that is still in beta for os x so it still might be some time befor it hits the public... I can only work on it when I have the time to do so... so that emans when Im not at work and when Im not doing music... but soon I promiss...

thanks man ... in fact thanks to everyone whos given me props (simon, seb and your self) its not really what I was looking for but its nice just the same.
as for the software I coded it my self and if you have a mac or a linux machine I can get you a copy now, if your on a pc youll have to wait a while untill I port it over to pc (there is just not enough hours in the day to do ever thing you want to do.) :)

jesus christ what is this what do you want me lunch money also?
here you go

its a p;ick aken of me having coffee with monolake in toronto the morning after a gig we both just played at.

I know its seb!!! silly boy...
;)
i was talkinga bout the punk whos been dissing me... ;)
Im gonna comeby the store and say howdy some time soon i want to pick up the contact mics you guys sell for some recording project Im working on...,

simon thanks you know whats up and whats happening... your one of the people like steve whom I can trust that they are keeping thier ear to the ground... exploring new artists, new spaces (some with a long history behind it) and just trimg to make things better...
i do have to say that the whole idea of paying people to play is sort of silly there is no $$$ to be made in the underground. I think if more folks did parties like sub culture or flux or things like tha were people played for basic costs so the cost of the party is not so high and there is not so much to loose life would be better for everyone. I think keeping things real about the music and not about money realyl helps to keep things in check...
any how Im just blabbering...
as for that other guy what ever your name is I gues i just dont like your posting style and choce of words you say one thing then your side stepping around it after.....if your gonna throw down some words stick by them... dont get all hyporcitical on me... by saying one thing and doing another... you want a demo get me an adress and Ill give you a live demo...

dude Im honored!!!
thanks...
:)
neil....

re read your post and see how insulting it is to me and all the other artists/djs I listed and then youll see exctly why you rub me the wrong way!!!!
a promotures job is to find new artists not to wait for them to come to him or her. its your job as someone whos promoting shows to get out there keep your ear to the ground find out whos doing what...approach artists for demos or records, read reviews, go to parties to har new artists play. its not about sitting back and waiting for people to come begging to you... sure a lot of promoters do this and its the reason why most promotires throw the same party time aftet time with the same djs/artists with the same visuals in the same 3 or 4 venues...

are you serious are you in some sort of time warp... my signature does nto speak for it self? I have more more then a dozen records released in canada and europe....
a demo why dont you try comming out to some of steves parties I played at a number of them or better yet go to my dj bio on ravewave (what novel idea)
secondly all the aritsts I mentioned are living in mtl and play out, noah pred has a monthly at stereo, tobias has a montly at the sat, frevioulious has a weekly at laika mossa (who is french by the way) plays all over and runs complot records.... one of the many labels naw is signed to....
3rdly like everyone else in this city I am bilingual, I speak both french and english... in fact if I didnt speak french I wouldnt have a job working for CNRAIL you fucking ignorent fool!
I was born here in Montreal I was forced to learn french I didnt have a choice so dont talk out of your ass! you dont even know me from jack... a simple google search with naw neil wiernik will give you 1000s of hits and tell you that you my friend live in a fucking vacumme, not aware of any thing in othe then your little world!
oh and will more then a dozen releases why would I need to make a demo unless you dont buy records or read electronic music magaaines where my reocrds usually get great reviews do you even read vior, hour, ici or the mirror all my records get reviewed there...lts face it you just dont pay attention to the greater scene unless you get a demo in your hand... just becasue you never heard of these people that does not mean they dont exisit get your ego in check the world does not revolve around kirk 6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

in no particular order, my definaiton of under rated is not much reconigtion locally:

fishead
sarcastic
freebass
kilobyte
galaxy
tobias
fervioulous
mossa
noah pred
the list goes on this city has a ton fo great talent but promotures are to busy booking the same djs and live pas over and over again instead of taking chances with new people.
fuck i should be part of that list but
a. Im a live artists
b that would be to egocentric for me
any how we can make lists untill the dogs come home the problem is no one gets booked in this city... I can promiss oe thing if my monhtly ever starts up I will try my hardest to not book the same artists over and over again...

one more thing here is a histroy of techno
[ www.jahsonic.com ]
and some awesome folks doing good things in the detroit area for years...
[ www.paxahau.com ]

here check this out [ music.hyperreal.org ]
its a snotty list but some of the founders of the detroit scene are on the list..
Ive seen posts by terrance parker, drexcia (rip) befor he pasted away, t1000, some of the submerge guys like mad mike... and others its a rough list but if your into being schooled this is the place to learn it all...

I cant belive that some of you have never heard of cybertron... they put out the first techno records... half of Cybertron is jaun atkins aka model 500, infinity the godfather of techno come on guys get outta this timewarp that mtl is in detroit is where it all began and not in some snotty eurpean cafe like everyone in the city seems to think...

this is the most fucking retarded thread Ive ever read on the board...
more retarded then folks who think st henri is full of hoes and crackhouses...
ok Ive lived in both cities most of my life
born in mtl went to university in the 80s came back to mtl for more school lived here in till the mid 90s then took off for toronto for 10 more years in 95 and now Im back here again....
both cities have there plus's and minus's like any other city in the world...
so this stupid name calling is dumd and only helps to widen the gap between the 2 largest cities in canada....
having lived in both citites I can tell you that both have a great after hours scene, a great wearhouse party scene.... both have great food, great people, both have silly downtown rents, both have thier shit paying and good paying jobs... both have thier good and bad show shops and so on... what montreal does not have that toronto does is taco bell big fucking deal get were Im going with this... this thread is petty and dumb!

there is also:
[ www.buymusichere.net ]
record time dance room is a peice of techno history...
and dont forget:
[ www.playderecord.com ] playD is a large part of the reason why candian techno took off...
[ www.clone.nl ] (if your nice enough to them they will take orders from individuals, these guys are probally the most interesting bunch in all of europe right now)

oh yeah and here is the place your looking for
[ www.hardwax.com ]
:)

watch it as sonicgroove can take a shit load of time to send you your order or some times just give you some thing else if the item is out of stock...

Im a huge fan david lynch fan but honestly lost highway put me to sleep......
its one of his lamest films... a turtle on ludes on tar paper moves faster then that film did...

yeah legowelt are amazing I saw them play live at a party in toronto 3 years ago...
here is thier labels URL bunker records lots of other really amazing raw begium eletro and techno on that label... [ www.bunker-records.com ]
the dirty brown crew as they like to call them selfs are awesome...folks unit mobius one of the artists that orginally got me into that minimal sound back in the mid 90s is part of thier crew and does amazing stuff...

I dont know man do I look sick? Ive been a vegan then a veggie then a rawist then back to veggie since I was 17 Im almost 36 now...

Im big time into cooking I even wored as a vegan cook for 2 years at one point in my life and helped to start up a vegan coop cafe at york university in the late 80s...
I find cooking to be super relaxing...
cleaning up is easy you just do it as your cooking its easy no excuse there amanda... ;)

yo leave my hood outta this...there are no crack houses in my hood dude... maybe on the other side of the tracks there are crack houses but not any where near me... get on the free venues dude!!!

yup they have a full bar cafe open in the front all the time...

what does a link to your prod companies website have to do with venues...
so youve thrown parties ok thats cool but you posted it like it was a resource for venues in the city... lets face it its costly to throw parties in this city more so them any other city Ive lived in befor... Im not interested in paying a rental fee to get some space...
I want to get a venue where the owner takes the bar and i take the door and its even end of story...fuck all this pay to play bs in this city ...
as far as I can see the best deal going in mtl is at the casa or sala spaces the casa is small but free and comes equiped and the sala is larger coems equiped and is about 300 for a sat night...
the bad thing is you have to close up by 3am which in many ways is cool be me who really wants to stay up all night at my age any how (Im turning 36 on dec 31st)

Ive done my homework dude... you sound like you have your back up against the wall for no reason at all. I was not pointing fingers at you but more like responding to your responce to me that was not even directed at you to begin with. chill the fuck out man....no one is pointing fingers at you....we are having a decent adult conversation.... no reason to make things into a flame war for no reason at all....

not to sound like a jerk off or any thing but rather then talk about things why not do it... you miss your home town go back there...I understand where your comming from mtl is my hometown and 10 years ago i took off lived in a number of different cities spend 7 of the years in toronto and in many ways I miss toronto a lot the scene there is very different and more accepting of what i do then here in mtl how ever I try very hard not to think about how much better things were but rather about how much better I can make things here and now... Im in mtl my life for the time being is in mtl I try not to think about how good things were in tdot but focus on tring to make things as good as possible here in mtl. help bring that vibe here to this city educate people to the vibe of other places....
throw the parties I threw in tdot and in san fran here in mtl get the mtl people into the digital robo minimal funk... show the rest of the world that mtl can have that same vibe that i saw in other cities... get where Im comming from now remember one important thing talk minus action equal zero... :)

no it wasnt and you just proved my point dont live in the past... why do a second woodstock
why try to relive the past why try to redo what was already done unless your going in there with the idea of doing it differently or better or with a new twist...
there is no way one can relive a past energy or vibe...