for serious

d. all of the above

janet = michael with breats

if only

You're lucky you're not in an alley.
Because I'd rape you.

(actually used)

7

sorry
i was writing as you posted that
had i known.. i wouldnt have posted

ok.. im really late in this thread... but I'm gonna agree with Ian ("And Circle gets the square!")...
no offence but... youre all idiots
sorry, i had to. now that that's out of my system,.... let the debate begin.


Article 1)
Graffiti as art.
Art. That is a very abstract word. Let's review it's meaning shall we?The Merriam-Webster's Dictionary defines art as: the conscious use of skill and creative imagination especially in the production of aesthetic objects . That is all well and good. Now is a tag creative? imaginative? or aesthetic? That's another questionable answer. In my personal opinion, it is not. It is ugly, unattractive, unimaginative, and not creative in any way, shape or form. It even makes its surroundings less appealing.

Article 2)
"People have been writing their names in weird places since the cavemen."
You're an idiot.
A) They did not write their names.
B) They drew animals and the hunt. More likely than not as a guide for younger men who did not have the experience of the hunt. It was instrumental to the survival of their community. It was not because they wanted to advertise their names to people they don't know, nor was it because they were so interested and deep-rooted followers and lovers of the so-called hip hop culture .

Article 3)
Graffiti affects society as a whole.
Graffiti really does affect society as a whole. Why do you think the (oh so horrible and hated) government cleans up graffiti when it is somewhere it's not supposed to be? Because they like wasting money? Money that could easily be spent on helping the poor you love so much? And are tagging so desperately to help? Hm. Let's think for a moment. Does the "Man" want to waste money on cleaning graffiti? No. Why not? Because he could spend that money on social benefits for the people who will be re-electing him next term. And how does tagging fit into this equation? Like so:

Tax Money = Taxes collected from the poor, the middle class and the rich.
Correct? Correct.
Now here is where it gets tricky.
Tax Money is spent on: Social Benefits, Re-election campaign, Social Insurance, Bien-etre Social, Roads, Health, Education, Graffiti removal (very simplistic, but I'm trying to prove a point)
Now the money spent on the removal of graffiti could be used in more efficient ways. And don't doubt that it's not a lot of money. It is. You've all said it before: "If I don't do it, there will be 10 people ready to take my place." So for every person who stops, its increases exponentially 10 TIMES! Wow. That's a lot of money! Enough even to start a new welfare program? I wouldn't know. But I hope you can see my point.

Article 4)
Graffiti as evolution.
Evolution. Wow. That's deep. I think he was trying to make some sort of artistic creation with that comment. (Sorry.:b) But I complettely agree with FLEKO on his statement about it getting commercialized and becoming useless. Graffiti did, I assume, evolve from somewhere, something. Something with a meaning, with a purpose. It no longer has that meaning or purpose. It is destruction. And (if any of you have read Graham Greene) destruction may be an artform. But in this scenario, I don't see it that way. Tagging has lost its meaning. It no longer symbolizes the frustration with the powers that be. It symbolizes teen angst and attention-seeking. If you have a problem with the "powers that be," take it up with them. Not with the people who ride the bus every morning. The reasons for this are twofold:
A) Tagging is almost entirely incomprehensible and illegible.
B) People ignore it. It is everywhere. One more or less won't change the world.

(Unfinished) Conclusion
Vandalism is bad. It's meaning is lost. It is a mindless self-indulgence. If you want to chagne the world, do something constructive, not DEstructive.

i would SO do your brother...

well its both then

mine is a song lyric and my own true feeling

a shoebox sized coffin... on an altar at the church... with my family friend's stillborn inside...
:(

oh jeez.. im going to be in the middle of YET ANOTHER religious debate?
fuck

who says all sins are fun? and who says all fun things are sins? you? and who are you to judge? the reasons, motives behind things makes them right
you can do a billion good things, but if your motives are wrong then your actions are useless in God's eyes...
im too tired for this.. but for the record I think that religion isnt bad.. i think its good... i just think that SOME people take stupidities too far and dont know what CONTEXT means...

my anti-drug is women

he drives by my house all the time in the summer

i like booze as well....
i SHOULD be sucking grappa off of a total stranger's stomach... but i have no mode of transportation...
*cries more rivers*

*cries a river from each eye... so 2 rivers really*
i really DID *gets the midget the hell out of the way* love you ALL along... the entire time

Laughing out out out loud?
sweet.:D

I am ever grateful.

"Ah Bill Clinton... Is there ANYthing he CAN"T be said to have done?"

I'm such a loser. I'm not only home on a saturday night, but I'm also posting on ravewave, when I could JUST AS EASILY be pretending to be out having fun with my countless friends.

:(

Someone hold me...

exactly!!
:D:D:D:D:D:D

MWAHAHAHHAA!! YOU ALL FELL FOR IT!!

oh come now...
it was THAT huge.. i mean its only 3 1/2 inches

yeah.. but i secretly enjoyed that

wai.. not kafwin... oir anyone else on this board...
(shes the rapist)

katie

??


but yeah... image is...? i dunno... i have no imange, im nobody... well not that im nobody.. i am a acollection of people... i have never had one original thought... all ive done or said or thought has been done or thought or said before..
i dont know who i am
i am imageless

i honestly feel violated
it wouldnt stop
i told her to back off ... she did, for like 25 seconds

i tagged my own house once just so i could blame it on the neighbours so that my parents would get pissed off... then me and my brothers went over and beat the shit out of him...










nah.. that never happened... but it would have been cool if it had

im quite certain im going to the deepest ring of hell...
i AM a betrayer

damnit

well just like all other things it has degenrated into an annoying waste of money/time/everything
so stop doing it
*annoyed* god who cares?
you said it yourself... people do it to be cool... so if youre NOT doing it for that reason, how is anyone going to know... if EVERYONE just does to be cool now, with the exception of you of course...
find another way to make the world better..
instead of hiding the ugliness, why not change it

i dunno what thats supposed to mean scott

I'm going with really horny.
She's under the impression that wwe have some sort of "agreement"

Thing is, the first time, I was insanely drunk and don't remember it. But that's no excuse. The second time I tried to stop her but she kept going and I guess I would have felt bad just telling her to fuck off. I'm retarded what can I say?

(also, azzizzuzz: i tried ignoring her. thats why i had to fake vomit. she wouldnt leave me alone... like i cant understand how she wouldnt get the fucking point. she was like inhuman.)

did randy call you?

yay!!
*smacks a child in the face*

f to the 'or fucking real'

i love those...
i read many of them