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» cinderella_soul replied on Mon Apr 18, 2005 @ 8:56pm. Posted in Would you marry a foreigner for money?.
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It has happened that people have actually ended up wanting to stay together after being in these types of relationships. I think I would consider marrying someone for greek citizenship.
» cinderella_soul replied on Mon Apr 18, 2005 @ 6:24pm. Posted in Sunshine @ Gravity.
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glad you found your stuff-- I enjoyed neoform's set while happy hardcore was in the main room-- but at first I found it somewhat too slow to dance too.. still danced a bit liked it more when you played happy trance--yes my preference... I am a dancer-- Really enjoyed dj galaksy , aprime and screwhead -- meowwww! so good.
» cinderella_soul replied on Mon Apr 18, 2005 @ 3:42pm. Posted in Sunshine @ Gravity.
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I had lots of fun. Fun meeting people of the site as well. I don't like happy hardcore much at all but it gave me the opportunity to get to some people better.
» cinderella_soul replied on Sat Apr 16, 2005 @ 8:14pm. Posted in What are you plans for the summer ?.
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All these people doing so much travelling-- how exciting! Why are y'all going to where you are going -- italy, spain greece? I mean why not but you knwo...
» cinderella_soul replied on Sat Apr 16, 2005 @ 7:57pm. Posted in This Saturday.
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I definately won't be there for 10p.m. still got to take a nap and get-ready.
» cinderella_soul replied on Sat Apr 16, 2005 @ 6:55pm. Posted in This Saturday.
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so looking forward to it!
» cinderella_soul replied on Fri Apr 15, 2005 @ 10:08pm. Posted in What are you plans for the summer ?.
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I would like to travel eventually as much as y'all are doing-- I would go to greece and egypt though--first on my list--
for this summer, hopefully I will still be working at sympatico-- want to move out of my mom's place-- want to do more public performance dance and spoken word-- stop taking all drugs... quit smoking whoosh,,

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» cinderella_soul replied on Fri Apr 15, 2005 @ 9:19pm. Posted in re: think about it--virus destruction.
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neoform, actually, at the time I was making a joke-- something similar to the humour that has been used on me.. When you said that I pushed your buttons, I didn't know wether to take you seriously or not. My intention was not too harm. Life as we've seen it is unfair at times-- we don't always get what we deserve. Neoform, you've been neutral to me, I would say. Anyways, the world doesn't revolve around me and even if it could, I wouldn't want it to.
» cinderella_soul replied on Fri Apr 15, 2005 @ 9:08pm. Posted in Bush I-POD playlist revealed.
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most of the major countries have signed-- and the americans who contribute 40% of the total emissions have not signed. I don't hate bush and there is no good reason to hate him. Big up to what you said about his motives-- I agree.-still no reason to hate him. but it's an action from which we can see what his motives are-- same with kyoto though too.
» cinderella_soul replied on Fri Apr 15, 2005 @ 8:27pm. Posted in Bush I-POD playlist revealed.
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I agree with the last thing you said... as for bush not exterminating a race of people-- it's even worse, he refuses to sign the kyoto protocol-- he's only contributing to everyone's death--that's all!
» cinderella_soul replied on Fri Apr 15, 2005 @ 9:05am. Posted in re: think about it--virus destruction.
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I have a hard time comforming to rules just to please people or to be liked.

It gives me the utmost pleasure to discuss these things. Maybe, I am in the wrong place.

I like raves and the rave community in general-- why is everyone so damn pretentious and guarding of an image y'all seem to be fighting so hard to protect.

Actually, I've spent just enough energy here. THere are some kind people who treated me with respect as a person. As for the rest of you, sheer meaness. I don't feel like I wasted my time.
» cinderella_soul replied on Fri Apr 15, 2005 @ 8:53am. Posted in the e-shits.
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the drug latches on to anything... that'll make you think it's good for you.
» cinderella_soul replied on Fri Apr 15, 2005 @ 8:48am. Posted in Why do you think ppl use drugs?.
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Excellent post Mico! Honest, direct, and helpful.
I enjoyed it.
» cinderella_soul replied on Fri Apr 15, 2005 @ 8:31am. Posted in Why do ppl stop using drugs?.
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I'm killing myself, for what, all the pain and lack of happiness that others and myself have brought upon me. Not worth it! But, yes, that painful.
» cinderella_soul replied on Fri Apr 15, 2005 @ 8:30am. Posted in Why do ppl stop using drugs?.
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I know that I don't need drugs and that basically all the things I get from drugs (lowering of inhibitions, ability to dance for hours) I could get without drugs. I don't want to end up thinking that I "need" the drug to do things I could have done without it.

With frequent drug use, the brain comes to "love" a certain brain-level activity -- without the drug, it may take a depression to restore the balance.

Depressions can be scare. yet so enlightening after you pass through the quicksand of its journey--if you get out of it that is.
» cinderella_soul replied on Fri Apr 15, 2005 @ 8:23am. Posted in re: think about it--virus destruction.
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so do you all think that viral "destruction/containment" is an effective way to CURE the virus problem?

cat avatar: Thinking about the issue might make people scared... but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

I know that the virus is an effect of a larger problem and thus by suppressing the effect you do not cure the problem. Tylenol helps "get rid of" headaches and suppress fever -- it makes people feel more comfort. But actually fever is an important part of our healing process and ought not to be suppressed, it's needed for our immune system.

I am not trying to claim to know better than anyone else. Honestly. I'm concerned with reason. I want to talk about it. I think everyone, generally speaking, can think for themselves. I'm listening to your responses, taking what you have to say into consideration. I refuse to accept something as true, if I am not sure that it is.
» cinderella_soul replied on Fri Apr 15, 2005 @ 8:12am. Posted in re: think about it--virus destruction.
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Originally posted by DJNEOFORM...

*looks around*

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*whips out finger and points at 'cinderella soul'*


you might try whipping out your dick, while we contemplate on what it means to be alive. Or would that be too disctracting? lol-- actually I'm not laughing.
» cinderella_soul replied on Fri Apr 15, 2005 @ 8:10am. Posted in re: think about it--virus destruction.
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good one. i didn't accuse anyone though-- I'm asking a question based on an observation.
» cinderella_soul replied on Fri Apr 15, 2005 @ 7:49am. Posted in re: think about it--virus destruction.
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what happened? Ran out of arguments so now you are trying to discredit me? Why would you even do that?
» cinderella_soul replied on Fri Apr 15, 2005 @ 7:45am. Posted in re: think about it--virus destruction.
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^^ I bet that's what any wealthy, hierarchical dictator would say, if he wasn't worried about public opinion.
» cinderella_soul replied on Fri Apr 15, 2005 @ 7:39am. Posted in Bush I-POD playlist revealed.
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Now that I think about it, I don't often post one line replies.
» cinderella_soul replied on Thu Apr 14, 2005 @ 9:25am. Posted in Why do you think ppl use drugs?.
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Originally posted by ASTRO*NUT...

I started doing drugs, bacause I just had so much fucking fun when I was high, then life strated to get tough and like most people, I "used" drugs to forget about how upsetting some things were, but mostly I always had a crazy fun time when Iwas high, this lasted years, but eventually I stoppped finding it so much fun, and more depressing, and I also became more serious (i grew up) and realized that a lot of things in my life we important to me and I would never be able to fully enjoy them if I was taking drugs, like the use of my brain for intellectual things.


me too had so much fuckin fun while high. Actually, I lived a simlar path in respect to drugs and my attitude towards it. I like to have self-control and I would really regret my continued drug-taking if I ended up with a serious some-kind of disorder. Ic an limit that chance to a certain degree by being more healthy, including limiting consumption of drugs.
» cinderella_soul replied on Thu Apr 14, 2005 @ 9:22am. Posted in Why do you think ppl use drugs?.
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Originally posted by APPLEFWIN...

I dont hate myself. I hate the sitty hand I keep getting dealt, but I just keep playing the game. Lifes to much of a wonderful experience to give up on, no matter how low i've found myself, no matter how many " wosrt day's of my life " i've had (only 3 and each worse than the last), or how many times i've felt so low that I thought no one could possibly understand the pain, I realize im sure many people could, and im sure I could feel a LOT worse then I do at this momment, and what do you know..just having hope that it would pass gives me the stength to keep on truckin.


I can relate. I keep playing the game too. I'm trying to stop the game though. becuse life is not a game. Life ought to be much more than that. The fact that life is such a wonderful experience keeps me going to. I'm glad you are doing reasonably well.
» cinderella_soul replied on Thu Apr 14, 2005 @ 9:04am. Posted in Bush I-POD playlist revealed.
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smeared black ink: what is VNR? video news reel --no ..I don't think so..
» cinderella_soul replied on Thu Apr 14, 2005 @ 9:03am. Posted in re: think about it--virus destruction.
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Originally posted by TARDCORE...

who gives a fuck, stop watching the news.

I hardly watch the news for your info-- but oh yeah, out of sight, out of mind. I get much more pleasure from attempting to see the biases companies/media promotes--

the world is coming to an end every second of everyday why worry? I say live in the now, because the now is the only thing thats real, not yesterday, not tommorow. have fun coz your gonna die quicker then ya think, you could die today. the sun could explode RIGHT NOW!! imagine BOOOOOOOOOOOOOM the sun explodes and humanity whiped out? would you be happy with your life as it stands? if not then you have some serious thinking to do, live life to the fullest and breathe life into every moment


Who says that planet earth ever has to end? Maybe, it will from our own doing, maybe it won't. maybe we can control how long we live on planet earth by the quality of our lives. Maybe, we will not succeed at doing this and annihalate ourselves. Maybe, the scientist on tv is right the sun is going to burn out in a million years so now matter what we do we're going to die.

I try to not let people define my existence for me. After all there is an epidemic of people just "going with the flow" to the point where they are just following popular opinion. At worse, it can be slightly stressfull to think about things for oneself, confronting beliefs that one's hold, which may be false. It's not always easy.

As einstein said " Question everything with a holy curiosity.."
» cinderella_soul replied on Thu Apr 14, 2005 @ 8:51am. Posted in re: think about it--virus destruction.
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Originally posted by ASTRO*NUT...

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The samples were burned in hopes that that would destroy the virus. Again, nothing can be created or destroyed, it just changes form.
I assume that the particles would go in the air. Have you noticed that many more people have been getting sick these past couple/few years? Perhaps, it is in part because of the presence and the attempt at destroying this virus. How come the media doesn’t make that connection? Just because they do not mention something, it does not mean that it is not the case.




Learn your physics, yes this is a true statement, but you have greatly misinterprated it.

It means that MATTER cannot be created or destroyed, is just changes form, if you burn a mass it is tranformed into heat energy, amongst other things, you cant in any way use this as an argument to justify that `burning`
(and I use quotes because they do not burn a virus in the conventional sense, thay say that so ppl will understand that bottom line)
a virus does not release parts of it in the air and promote more risk of infection.

and anything that is transformed into heat energy cannot be harmful? Do we know all there is to know about matter and the destruction of it? Are you sure? What makes you think that a virus could not be released into the air when "burning" it? How do you know?


Not to meantion, do you think they have a big camp fire OUTSIDE and burn a burnch of viles, letting the debrees fly in to the air? Come on, they have higly equiped facilities for this kind of thing,


Of course, highly equipped facilities-- you're right there's no need to worry. whatever, I know they have highly equipped fascilities-- but are you willing to allow that these fascilities can maybe not contain everything that enters it-- ? That some things we just don't know now?
» cinderella_soul replied on Thu Apr 14, 2005 @ 8:42am. Posted in re: think about it--virus destruction.
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Originally posted by • • •...

You're such an alarmist.


Actually, I can see the media making themselves feel better by saying " I don't want to be an alarmist". -- making others worry needlessly.

you could call me what you want, maybe you even just proved it.

Okay, a guy I know has been saying that there will be a nuclear war on the US. may 5th. The reason--none in particular. I think this is more in the alarmist category.
» cinderella_soul replied on Thu Apr 14, 2005 @ 8:37am. Posted in re: think about it--virus destruction.
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Originally posted by • • •...

Someone who wastes their time miserable and worrying about everything and trying to make everyone else worried.


Actually, you'd be surprised how happy I am. I know what misery is-- I used to be misery but I made peace with that part of myself. Me, not trying to think things througgh and question things would be cause to worry.

my intention is not to try to make people worry-- we can reason things out--there's no need to worry. There is a need to question things.

People have heard that the authorities of our countries refrain from telling us things, which may scare us. Such as when there was the potential of an asteroid hitting us-- they did not tell the public to avoid panic. Why would people panic, if they are not afraid to die? If people are afraid to die, ought we to continue keeping them sheltered so they become even more afraid to die?
» cinderella_soul replied on Thu Apr 14, 2005 @ 8:32am. Posted in re: think about it--virus destruction.
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Originally posted by SMURF...

ya, it was a long read, so i didnt complete it, but my 2 cents are:

the virus was already contained 40 years ago. All that is left of it are samples. If you destroy the samples, there will be no more of this virus. Until another 'souche' mutates in the same fashion (which is highly unlikely, since nature tries things once).

I wonder if you have ever heard about the time some scientists tried to kill some bugs/bacteria that were eating away at crops. They used some product to try and do that. What happened? The bug/bacteria came back, immune to the product they used to try and get rid of it.
Nature tries things only once? What do you mean? Can you give me an example? Okay, nature does nothing in vain and so would not try the same thing again-- in my example nature cam back with a bacteria/bug that was resistant to the chemicals ,,,,??!!


"The samples were burned in hopes that that would destroy the virus. Again, nothing can be created or destroyed, it just changes form. I assume that the particles would go in the air. Have you noticed that many more people have been getting sick these past couple/few years? Perhaps, it is in part because of the presence and the attempt at destroying this virus. How come the media doesn’t make that connection? Just because they do not mention something, it does not mean that it is not the case. "

now you are pushing too far. Burning a virus transforms it into NOT a virus. I wont argue you could get lung cancer from air polution, but it wont be the virus's doing. Its dead, done.


it's dead, done--by burning it -- are you sure?
Why are you so convinced that it will be transformed into not a virus?

I think you underestimate the scientist. Don't think they aer careless, they don't want to die. Maybe in some poor country poorly equipped, but they wouldnt send samples of deadly viruses to those places.


I do not want to underestimate the scientists. I think people in geenral overestimate them. They are not necessarily careless. Sometimes, in general, I think people have too much faith in technology and we think we know what we're doing, when we don't know everything.

"One of the principles of science is that nothing can created or destroyed"

again, you are abusing the principle. Here's a blunt example: I can kill jean charest. He will not affect quebec anymore. He wasnt destroyed, but 'transformed' into something that is no more a problem. That is what they are going to do.


Using your reasoning... if you kill jean charest, he may affect quebec still -- his presence in a memory lives on. If you kill him, more people may grow to be a problem like him. Killing jean charest is not really an appropriate solution-- there will still be people like charest.. so what are we going to do --kill them too? There is still a difference between killing jean charest and killing a virus-- but there;s an underlying principle that links them together.
» cinderella_soul replied on Wed Apr 13, 2005 @ 9:43am. Posted in re: think about it--virus destruction.
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Even if you don't like me, please read the article, my comments are in italics. I feel that the media is trying to fool some of the people some of the time sorta-thing.

scientists Scramble to Destroy Flu Strain

22 minutes ago

Health - AP

By EMMA ROSS and MARILYNN MARCHIONE, AP Medical Writers

Scientists around the world were scrambling to prevent the possibility of a pandemic after a nearly 50-year-old killer influenza virus was sent to thousands of labs, a decision that one researcher described as "unwise."



Nearly 5,000 labs in 18 countries, mostly in the United States, were urged by the World Health Organization to destroy samples of the dangerous virus because of the slight risk it could trigger a global outbreak. The labs received the virus from a U.S. company that supplies kits used for quality control tests.


"The risk is low and we've taken appropriate action," said Dr. Nancy Cox, chief of the influenza branch at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta.

There is no reason to believe that the risk is low. However, there is no need to worry, as that would not neccessarily make our immune systems any more resilient to any disease for that matter. I wonder how they plan on destroying the virus. To “destroy” the virus or to make sure it no longer exists as a threat, scientist would need to know what caused the virus. I fear that they may merely temporally destroy the virus, which means that the virus in its present form would no longer exist. But the virus itself would subsist in a different form.


Her counterpart at WHO, Klaus Stohr, agreed but said, "If someone does get infected, the risk of severe illness is high, and this virus has shown to be fully transmissible."

All the more reason to destroy the virus. But is they are to destroy the virus, truly and completely, again, they would need to know the cause. The virus is an effect. It is a symptom of a larger problem. I think they are looking for support or a lack of resistance towards them attempting to “kill” the strain. But be careful, even though scientists think that they can kill the virus, it may not necessarily stop the virus.

The germ, the 1957 H2N2 "Asian flu" strain, killed between 1 million and 4 million people. It has not been included in flu vaccines since 1968, and anyone born after that date has little or no immunity to it.

More reason to fear that this virus could kill you and as some would like you to think that the solution lies in destroying the virus. One of the principles of science is that nothing can created or destroyed. Again, I repeat, they are going to destroy the virus—what does that mean?!

The WHO said Tuesday that there have been no reports of infections in laboratory workers associated with the distribution of the samples and that "the risk for the general population is also considered low."

Perhaps, it takes a while for the infection to be detected. Perhaps, the technology we have cannot detect the infection from this virus. Why is this not being mentioned. But they do say that since people were not able to detect any infections in people using the present-day technology that we have then that implies that the general population would very likely not be infected either. But actually, what it means is that our technology could not detect the virus in people who were working closely with the virus and so what would make us think that it could detect it in people who are not so closely in contact with the virus.

Still, the decision to send out the strain was described by Stohr as "unwise" and "unfortunate."


The CDC learned Friday that test kits prepared by Meridian Bioscience Inc. of Cincinnati contained the virus. The company makes kits for at least four groups that help labs do proficiency testing, which involves identifying viruses to check a lab's quality controls or to acquire certification.

That’s another thing, I would like to think that the viruses are in the hands of professionals and would like to be comforted by the thought. But I am not because I know how humans can be, even professionals.


The largest of those groups, the College of American Pathologists, said it had sent 3,747 kits to various labs starting last year and ending in February.



Dr. Jared Schwartz, an official with the pathology college, said Meridian was told to pick an influenza sample and chose from its stockpile the deadly 1957 strain, which it had received from a "germ library" in 2000.


Other test kit providers also used the strain. Schwartz identified them as Medical Lab Evaluators, the American Association of Bioanalysts and the American Association of Family Practitioners.


Officials at Meridian could not immediately be reached for comment late Tuesday after business hours.


Most of the labs that received the test kits were in the United States. The vials also were sent to labs in Belgium, Bermuda, Canada, Chile, Brazil, France, Germany, Chile, Hong Kong, Israel, Italy, Lebanon, Mexico, South Korea, Saudi Arabia, Singapore and Taiwan.


Some of the labs outside the United States have already incinerated their samples, Stohr said, and WHO hoped the rest of the vials would be destroyed by Friday.

The samples were burned in hopes that that would destroy the virus. Again, nothing can be created or destroyed, it just changes form. I assume that the particles would go in the air. Have you noticed that many more people have been getting sick these past couple/few years? Perhaps, it is in part because of the presence and the attempt at destroying this virus. How come the media doesn’t make that connection? Just because they do not mention something, it does not mean that it is not the case.


The kits contain blind samples that labs must correctly identify to pass the test. The influenza virus included in the kits typically is one that is currently circulating or has recently circulated.


A Canadian laboratory detected the 1957 pandemic strain on March 26 in a sample that was later traced to a test kit.


The WHO notified health authorities in countries that received the kits and recommended that all samples be destroyed. The College of American Pathologists asked labs to incinerate the samples immediately and confirm their actions in writing.

I need to write a letter to the WHO.


The virus' presence in thousands of labs focused fresh attention on the safe handling of deadly germs — an issue that led to toughened U.S. rules after anthrax was sent in the mail in 2001, killing five Americans.

Cox said officials strongly doubt someone deliberately planted the dangerous germ. "It wouldn't be a smart way to start a pandemic to send it to laboratories because we have people well trained in biocontainment," she said.

But Stohr said the test kits are not the only supplies of the 1957 pandemic strain sitting in laboratories around the world. "The world really has to think what routine labs should be doing with these samples they have kept in the back of their fridges," he said.

And the article is ended like that.. geez!

On the Net:

WHO statement: [ www.who.int ]

Meridian Bioscience: [ www.meridianbioscience.com ]
» cinderella_soul replied on Wed Apr 13, 2005 @ 8:42am. Posted in Ghb.
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nice link too! thanks. I like those kinds of things.
. bukkake

1. noun Variety of fetish that involves repeated ejaculation on a female by many (8 will do) men.

2. verb To ejaculate on something, especially repeatedly

1. I think you have a future in bukkake videos.

2. Turn off your stereo or I will bukkake on it.
» cinderella_soul replied on Wed Apr 13, 2005 @ 8:07am. Posted in Bush I-POD playlist revealed.
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(CNN) -- The music tastes of U.S. President George W. "Bush have come under scrutiny after an aide revealed the playlist of his new iPod player."

I listen to music I don't particularly like but that is popular to see why it is popular. Plus, it was probably his daughters who added the music. That's an easy argument to win.

How about bush's impetuous act to go to war, when we should be learning from lesson' s past.

CNN needs to get... "a life"!!
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not nearly, in my opinion, as titallating as the one's psyco posted. But supposedly this a tropical flower that humans have called the bird of paradise.

[ www.flowerpictures.net ]

...someone can "love" themselves too much and not like another.
» cinderella_soul replied on Mon Apr 11, 2005 @ 5:52pm. Posted in flowers.
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seriously. There's too much out of it.

learn how to spell -- I worked very hard to be where I am and I can hardly credit it to my institutionalized schooling. I'm not sure what your point is. anyway..
» cinderella_soul replied on Mon Apr 11, 2005 @ 9:00am. Posted in Ghb.
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is it the word you do not understand or is it that you don't think it was an assumption?
» cinderella_soul replied on Mon Apr 11, 2005 @ 8:48am. Posted in show me msg..dont bring me back to....
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I like your suggestion and I would prefer it if it would leave one in the thread that one is in,
» cinderella_soul replied on Sun Apr 10, 2005 @ 1:21pm. Posted in flowers.
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Originally posted by MORPHINE...

Originally posted by cinderella soul...

I like your idea because spending time with flowers could make us more acquainted with them and learning about nature is out duty in a progressive sense..



....nature is out duty in a progressive sense???? what the hell does that even mean?


Being in tune with ourselves and thus the natural environment is my duty. It's something I ought to do. Why? Because in order to progress, go forward, learn, and evolve, it is a "must", an imperative that humans on a whole have a healthy, positive relationship with nature or the natural environment, amongst other things.
Did that make it more clear to you? If not, let me know, I will gladly attempt to explain it more or in different words to help you understnad what I mean.
» cinderella_soul replied on Fri Apr 8, 2005 @ 8:41pm. Posted in Ritual when high?.
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everytime I drink a beer I tap the cap three times and then twist it once to the left, and then once to the right. Next, I tap the bottom of the bottle. I poor a little bit out. I take a sip and I tap the bottle on the table twice and then add salt. I used to do this all the time till I stopped drinkning. Nah, I don't really do all that. psych!
» cinderella_soul replied on Fri Apr 8, 2005 @ 8:39pm. Posted in Ritual when high?.
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I butch my cigs, while I make more coffee to drink them to.
» cinderella_soul replied on Fri Apr 8, 2005 @ 8:37pm. Posted in Ghb.
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Originally posted by [SCREWHEAD]...

So, it's alright to do something that someone can use to rape in moderation, but not too much. Right. Double standards are great.


If you would have really understood and read thoroughly his initial comment, which you are reacting to then you wouldn't have reached the conclusion that you have reached.

You might want to try focusing on yourself, I would imagine there are plenty of things you could improve.
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