but it is a dog eat dog world, we think we're better because we can 'communicate[manipulate]' but in the end it really is survival of the fittest [to survive], duh...
I don't think you should do everything your parents tell you to, I strongly believe that everyone should use sound reasoning and that you can't accept everything your told without questioning it but then you can't question everything you're told either, sooner or later if the thing that your parents are asking you is something as simple as 'respect our religion and wear your god damnned hat' then it's being really unreasonable for us to say 'no' I don't believe in hats. Just learn from it and once you're not leeching off your parents, do whatever you want.
All I wanted to say is that there's no way that girl came home to get some things and her dad jumped on her throat, she HAD to provoke him one way or another, or else there would have being a premeditated will to kill, and it's my reasonable opinion that when you provoke someone, you should be held at least partially responsible for the reaction you bring on...

like you don't go up to a Hell's Angel biker and ask him where to buy G-Strings, if he kills you, it's really your own damned fault.


I also hate generalization, although it helps us have a better understanding of the world in general, you have to come into every situation when the benefit of the doubt, which is all I've been pushing here...
I don't believe in 'inhumane' being a term that you can apply to a human, I mean, we made that word up, solely to describe other humans, so right there is a huge contradiction... only humans can truly be inhumane, which doesn't make sense.

whatever, all in all, believe what you want, but react knowing that you're just taking someone else's word for it...

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I heard someone lost their virginity to the cuban dude who lives there...

look into afterhours clubs or bar's that advertise a dancefloor, the best way to go is all the way

there's already a tentacle porn gallery too, check Tentacular's profile...

you let him keep his miserable life so no ethical problem imo

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I dunno, I don't think anyone is ever 'ready' to be a parent, it's one thing to think you are, and prepare as much as possible, but in the end we are all humans with our faults and our eventual inability to deal directly with something.
Who here hasn't had some problems with their parents? And who here hasn't dealt directly with violence in some form during their adolescent years, surely if your parents don't beat you and you act like a fool, someone else will beat you up. Sooner or later, you're going to be put in your place physically. You can't go around disrespecting people forever with no consequences and I personally see no reason why violence shouldn't be the consequence, we're not trees, we're living breathing, bruisable beings with instinctual urges to hurt and to be hurt.
And common, who's gonna think 15 years in advance "Oh maybe I won't be able to deal with my kid properly, I better not have sex". People don't think one fucking day in advance muchless 12-19 years... in a perfect world maybe, but then perfection would mean something else prolly...
when I said "but fuck man some 16 year old girls are fucking erratic and provocative and say and do shit that does make you want to kill them."
I meant the following ---> teenagers, whatever, people in general act like retards, make others mad on purpose. Family members KNOW what makes each other mad, and when they are angry, they will pin-point the EXACT thing that makes the other person as angry as possible. When we are pissed we aim to hurt, we get dirty, we get cheap, we insult as bad as we can.
Fuck the hijab thing, let's say making peanut butter sandwhiches makes your boyfriend FUCKING mad, well you won't do it, but then if he cheats on you, you're going to sit there with bread, a knife, and peanut butter, making tons of fucking sandwhiches and rub it all over his pillows and his favorite guitar. Basically you do exactly what he said NOT to do, and he's going to freak for sure.

So that 16 year old KNEW that not wearing her hijab and acting like an american infidel was going to piss her dad off, there's no way she could have known what was going to happen, her father could simply have slapped her, OR just simply walked out of the room but she KNEW that he was going to pissed and I bet you she RUBBED IT IN HIS FACE cause she was moving out. Now when you get someone as angry as possible there's only a few things that will happen: violence, irreparable sadness, sheer mental breakdown... and during that time you do things you never thought you would do, but you do them cause you're not in a normal state, you react the way someone provoked you to react and if violence is how you express your anger, that's whats going to happen.


NOW, shit like that happens all the time all over the world, there's gotta be a LEAST violent reaction and a MOST violent reaction because there's NO way everyone is going to react the same... so for sure on one side, someone's going to go cry in a corner, and on the other you have a kid bring a gun to school and kill 492 other people.
Do i think what the dad did was right? No way, but it's not up to me, it's not up to us at all, for us to judge him is completely hypocritical because how do we know that his daughter didn't flush his father's father's father watch down the toilet and then yell "suck my dick"! I'd choke the bitch too if that was the case...

so all I'm saying is that we don't know what the situation was, it's none of our business, is it good? no, is the father going to jail? probably, he deserves it, but that doesn't mean the girl didn't deserve what she got, or that hijab causes violence, it could have been one too many peanut butter sandwhiches and then people would blame allergy to peanuts or some other bullshit.

I gotta say though that remember, I am not representing either side, but I feel the need to play the devil's advocate, that means to fight for the other side even if I don't agree with what I'm saying, I am exposing the possible doubt that everyone should accept before making their judgements. Think for yourself, don't start hating the father with the hijab addiction because everyone else is, we DON'T know the whole story, so we shouldn't get involved (too late :P)
anyway, that was way too long and hopefully killed this thread due to boredom. and again, I am on the girls' side if anything cause her dad should not have taken such serious action, both of them should have exerted MUCH better self control.

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It's fucked that she died but don't pretend to know the whole story, there's no way that she was killed BECAUSE she refused to wear her highjab. Like the students mentioned, she had a troubled family life, proof is she was trying to move out, but fuck man some 16 year old girls are fucking erratic and provocative and say and do shit that does make you want to kill them.
Before I go on I want to say that I don't think it's ok she was choked but I gotta play the Devil's advocate anyway.

When my sis was 16, she would throw tantrems and become violent and she'd do and say shit I would NEVER have said or done literally out of fear of my own life, not because my parents are violent, quite the opposite, but because you don't disrespect the people who gave you life, you don't throw away centuries of belief just because your friends don't agree and because you think you're an adult at 16. I can all but garantee that that chick had some friends who fed her what she wanted to hear, supporting her in her rebellion against her father, and her father, coming from a much different generation and life, exploded like humans will and took action I'm sure he regrets.

But let me state in no uncertain terms that death is NOT a tragedy, it's a reality, everyone dies sooner or later... who is to say that 16 is too young or that she didn't deserve it, maybe she did! When it comes to survival of the fittest, you have to be smart enough to NOT piss someone off to the extent that they would hurt you, and this is her dad we are talking about, she HAD to know somewhat what to expect when she did what she did. This isn't murder, this was a struggle between two family members who obviously had NO control over themselves. The girl was fucking stupid for thinking she was immune to the probable violence and the father was fucking stupid for vastly overreacting and throwing his own life in the garbage.

It must be mentioned that the father turned himself in, and I give him credit for that, NO one will hear him out, and he probably doesn't deserve any better, but this is a great example of the world meddling in the private affairs of a family that should likely have killed itself off long ago. This is not a tragedy, i do not feel bad (because I don't know them personally) and frankly, none of this is ANY of our business.

Don't be a fucking moron and get yourself choked, and don't choke someone for something as fucking stupid as a hat.

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buuuuut your response was dumbfounding, I didn't described anything at all in my original post :\ and for the sake of getting something useful out of this thread, I am referring to an all night event.


Contemporary definition of "rave" as a social event
In simplest terms, a rave is a social event, a phenomenon of modern youth culture. In most cases a rave is a dance party in which the participants experience a sense of community and elevated consciousness through the hearing of music and the respond ing to music through (1) free physical motion or dance, (2) a positive change of mood, and (3) both spoken & unspoken interaction with other participants.

Although this is not an exhaustive list, it can generally be said that raves today tend to include the following dominant elements:

* a venue which may be a warehouse, open field, dance club, or other exotic location
* at least one large amplified stereo sound system
* skilled disc jockeys (DJs) who provide a continuous mix of dance oriented electronic music, usually "techno," "house," or "jungle" music
* colorful moving lights, lasers and/or strobes
* nighttime hours, usually from 10pm or 11pm until sunrise
* attendance of at least 50 people (varies widely from region to region around the world; some European cities routinely attract over 10,000. American raves average 500 to 1,500, with exceptions)
* use of recreational drugs among a percentage of the participants (varies widely from rave to rave; some raves are substance-free)
* non-use of alcohol (varies from rave to rave)
* vending of non-alcoholic "smart drinks", t-shirts, and DJ mix tapes
* retro and "little kid" fashions
* "chill out" areas or rooms featuring ambient music

When Is A Rave Not A Rave?

A rave is a subjective experience. It is possible that a dance party which fits the above criteria may not be considered a rave by those who participated in it or by experienced ravers (people who sometimes attend raves) who hear about the event before or after it takes place. Some ravers feel that only raves which they enjoyed were actually raves. Some even feel that only raves which were held without permission from the venue owner were 'real.' Ravers also tend to use their own criteri a for determining if a dance party that is billed and/or promoted as a rave is actually deserving of the name. These criteria are usually based on expectations formed from previous experiences at raves, so what has happened over time is that raves have c ome to be comprised of similar elements in order to appeal to people's expectations, as well as being a by-product of those expectations.

There is also the issue of the word "rave" itself. For various reasons there are negative connotations associated with the word, so many ravers choose not to say it. They may say "party" or "event," or they may refer to the rave by the name given by its promoters. Whether or not the kinds of parties that happen today are "raves" is open for debate. For purposes of discussion here, we'll say that they are in fact "raves."

the problem isn't society, oh wait, it is... freaks like that wouldn't be worth one second of our attention if they didn't have guns.. guns. are. the. problem. dot.

Let's start off with a joke. How many ravers does it take to screw in a light bulb?


1,000: One to screw in the light bulb, and 999 to whine about how much better the old bulb was.


Ok, so now you're entertained, or not, you're probably complaining about how the old rave jokes were so much better.. in any case, I'd appreciate any and all information any of you might have come by concerning throwing the most legal and safe possible raves.

thank you sprungfield!!

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