The Science Of Mixing
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Wed Apr 7, 2004 @ 2:14am |
 Coolness: 145890 | anyone who feels they have answer please do tell.
explain how it works and why |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» beercrack replied on Wed Apr 7, 2004 @ 10:12am |
 Coolness: 72125 | mixing what?
cement? mingling? track mixdown? records? mp3s? cds? a martini? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Wed Apr 7, 2004 @ 11:27am |
 Coolness: 472495 | mixing choons can be some kind of science for real ...
cuz one can create new moods and magic by choosing the proper tracks to mix with one other .. but its gotta be tight to create niceness .. when u hear a guy like ANDY C. for drumn'bass or DAVE CLARKE for techno ... u can compare 'em to some crazy-genius scientists i,d say .. my 50 cents .. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Toltech replied on Wed Apr 7, 2004 @ 11:47am |
 Coolness: 146110 | Dave Clarke is pretty straight forward in my opinion....for the scientist type, I'd go for some purer type like Henrik B...
my 1254684 pesos...:b |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Wed Apr 7, 2004 @ 12:03pm |
| Coolness: 472495 | One can't be rockin and still be a musical scientist at the same time ? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Wed Apr 7, 2004 @ 12:37pm |
| Coolness: 145890 | i'm obviously not compettely ignorant of how this works, big bad ass dj's with their never ending ego trips are always bragging how they are the so called "best" at this activity called 'djing". What i want to know is what does this activity consist of what are they the "best" at, what is it they are doing. Anyone who claims to be able to do it well should atleast be able to explain it, after all this is not mysticism is it? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Wed Apr 7, 2004 @ 4:23pm |
| Coolness: 472495 | big bad ass ego dj's , like u called 'em ..
usually aren't even really good at mixing ...or they don't even put the efforts on .. most obvious example ; TIËSTO would be alone on a massive stage playing those 25 seconds beatmatches by the end of the track .. but the ladies like him ...:lol check out the Ninja Tune homies (Luv n' WIG) for example and there u got pure science they rawk |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Apr 7, 2004 @ 6:45pm |
 Coolness: 340355 | PvD is a great example of ego, on his records (that he produces) he dares right a small disclaimer saying "Not to be used for live shows" etc.. who fuck is he to be telling people not to use his work for live showings.. he's a freaking DJ who plays other's work!! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BobGratton replied on Wed Apr 7, 2004 @ 10:32pm |
 Coolness: 74780 | A Great Word To Explain Mixing :
mix |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Wed Apr 7, 2004 @ 11:59pm |
| Coolness: 145890 | that doesn't really explain much, it's like saying "to play the guitar just move your fingers around" it does nothing to explain how you do it. Let's get serious, if you really think you understand it explain it or have we all wasted our time practicing for nothing?
As far as i can tell the problem is pretty simple: We need a constant flow of seamless music so people can dance, the question then becomes how do we achieve that. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Thu Apr 8, 2004 @ 2:06am |
| Coolness: 340355 | By listening to particular elements of a track, then using your memory of music you have with you, find a track that fit perfectly with it, beat match it, and try to make either a seemless transition from one to the other, or make both tracks work together to make something even better. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Thu Apr 8, 2004 @ 2:09am |
| Coolness: 145890 | propa neoform propa, points for both brevity and clarity. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Toltech replied on Thu Apr 8, 2004 @ 2:15am |
| Coolness: 146110 | well there's not much to say....what is it that you want? an explanation of what beatmatching consists of?
you take the first beat of a track and match with the first beat of the one playing....you keep adjusting your pitch to make sure they stay matched...oh yeah, you bring the volume fader up, from the track your mixing in....and the other one down....gradually.....I dunno what else to say....the rest is whatever you feel like doing... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Toltech replied on Thu Apr 8, 2004 @ 2:17am |
| Coolness: 146110 | you wanna keep them matched and play with the knobs and effects that you got (if you got effects)....I guess I can add that....I think I killed the threads intended vibe here but I just dunno what to say...: sorry |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Thu Apr 8, 2004 @ 2:24am |
| Coolness: 340355 | this reminds me of that Blank & Jones Music video where they show how to mix with a hot chick showing how it's done. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Thu Apr 8, 2004 @ 3:05am |
| Coolness: 145890 | its not true that there isn't alot say, you could write 1000 page thesis on the nature mathematics in relation to mixing(ie the mechanics of beat matching itself) thats how complicated it is.
djs sometimes forget that because it's so much a part of their lives to do it, but mixing on a purely technical/scientific(?) level is really retard... it's almost unbelievable that people not so long ago (say thirty years ago) figured this out and that people today can even learn how to do it, it blows my mind maybe I'm asking too much maybe it can't really be explained properly maybe it just has to be lived...still there must be something we can say about it, like i said it's not mysticism |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Thu Apr 8, 2004 @ 3:24am |
 Coolness: 686280 | Well,I find that one of the most important aspects is the track selection. I'd even go to say that it's more important than the beatmatching, but that's a veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerry small bit more, nothing major at all. If you can beatmatch PERFECTLY, but your bringing in a stale track over another stale track over and over instead of dropping bomb after bomb after bomb, then no one is gonna like your sets. But if you can almost beatmatch them, get them close enough, and know exactly how to mix out of AMAZING tracks that people WANT to hear and that people love, that's gonna win a crowd over more than the tightest mixing in the world (With the exception of maybe the DMCs, where it's ALL about being tight and quite often tightness and tricks is more important than being musical)
A lot of it has to do with having a good ear for things, and knowing how to work the EQ as well. You have to have at least a little knowledge of what frequency ranges are which parts of your track, so that say you want to bring in a track with a vocal, but the hats are off a little from the track your mixing into, you cut your high end a little and let the bass and mids cary in your new track and then you start bringing in the high as your mixing out the old track. It helps also with synth melodies. If you can use a melody from one track in another, while your mixing them, that can have an amazing effect. (For an example of 2 melodies that work really well together, listen to B There 4 U (Concord Dawn remix) And Morning Light. If you know how to play with the EQ well, those 2 tracks mixed together are siiiiiiick as hell) I find that yes, it is possible to mix purely technical, to start as a DJ, never learn any production or anything, just mix technicaly, and you could be amazing. But if you don't know how to manipulate your sound in a musical way, in a way that most of the time only musicians and producers understand how to do since they're used to working with multiple melodies and beats and getting them to work together, it'll just sound like a computer on shuffle with a beatmatch option turned on, which is pretty boring. Ok I'm gonna try and stop rambline now. Have a good ear, and know how to use your EQ and learn a little bit about production, even just very basic things like organising beats and melodies, and a lot of it comes naturally once you get "into" how the music works. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Thu Apr 8, 2004 @ 11:03am |
| Coolness: 145890 | very good fred...well now that i got a couple of good entries i guess it's only fair if i give my take on the whole thing...I' ll do that tonight after i've had a few hours to think about how i'm going to put this into words... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» beercrack replied on Thu Apr 8, 2004 @ 11:22am |
| Coolness: 72125 | use the faders for strategic volume placements!
manipulate the records for time warp bonus! play the records in the right order to defeat your opponent! go GQ on the EQ! change the pitch up! smack the bitch up! have fun - that's the one! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Toltech replied on Thu Apr 8, 2004 @ 1:55pm |
| Coolness: 146110 | that was the best one! 8) |
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