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Dnb Production Do'S And Don'T'S !!!
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Intoccabile replied on Fri Dec 12, 2003 @ 3:36pm |
 Coolness: 65565 | Here's mine, add your own !
. There is always, and I mean it, always someone who is better than you at what you do, the only thing left to do is to practice everyday and stop bigging yourself up it's a loss of time . Do not use loops, do your own percussions, it's a painful process but one worth it . Do not use bass samples, design your own samples using soft synths . Sample based tracks are so 90's anyway 
. I erase all sounds and presets after finising a track, it keeps me from being lazy and using the same ones . Full amen tracks are a big no . Full tramen tracks : same as above . Reeces : same as above . Compression is your best friend, but know that your best friends can turn into fiends ! . You think you got enough layers ? Think harder ! 
. Mmmh.. that track is going nowhere, hey ? You're right, it's going nowhere !!!  Delete everything and start over.
. You need to eat, you need to sleep sometimes. 
. You want to finish that track ? Unplug the phone, kick the girlfriend or boyfriend out, skip the job, maximum cafeine input for maximum sonic output, producing is like a full time job. . Normalisation, limiting, multiband compression okay ? Got that ? . That bass sound could use a little more * attack * |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» eLDee replied on Sun Dec 14, 2003 @ 12:59pm |
 Coolness: 121630 | Don't drink/smoke up when tracking, altho it makes you believe that the track is super mad tight listen to it the day after and you're up for a big surprise
same goes for buying records |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» beercrack replied on Sun Dec 14, 2003 @ 1:06pm |
 Coolness: 72150 | :) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sun Dec 14, 2003 @ 6:12pm |
 Coolness: 201940 | Do not use loops, do your own percussions, it's a painful process but one worth it
I don't agree completely, you can do some pretty cool things with well chopped up drumloops, and that lofi sound can sometimes be great... The main problem is people being lazy and not doing enough with it... A couple of things I would add.. - Do eq or filter the sub-bass down (less than 100hz) on your drums to leave more room for your bassline... -Don't abuse the limiter to make your track extra loud, because It takes away some of the impact of the drums and other elements and makes the sound mush together... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Mon Dec 15, 2003 @ 3:22pm |
 Coolness: 283170 | Okay, my take is...a sampled breakbeat is good if it's used as a "backbeat", but dont make it too obvious...amens:If your gonna use em', use the sampled amen sounds to recreate something original, re-do the [ programming...com ] IS your best friend, if you know how to compress...dont just do it cause it was suggested, learn how and you'll benfit largely i.e: less clipping, more space for other layers (which you can NEVER have enough of) and cleaner, crisp sounds.
Whats wrong with Reeces?? I think your just bored with them and really dont know how to distort em "Properly"....Think twice about what your saying, because all the tools given to you, CAN and most likely HAVE been used to create killer tracks. You cant reject ANYTHING, because thats one less tool. And simplicity is KEY in production, if it sounds fine the way it is, LEAVE IT! And caffein is the WORST for producing, you get headaches and dont even feel like sitting in front of your computer, so SCRAP THAT! Pot is okay because it opens up your mind a litle bit more, makes you FEEL the rush of your track and lets you go to sleep at will...and being alone duringthe process indeed helps, unless you have a partner. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Mon Dec 15, 2003 @ 3:48pm |
| Coolness: 201940 | caffeine or pot depends on the person.. I work well with caffeine but not with pot, other people it's the other way around.. and some people (oliver twisted, wink wink) like to mix the two... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Intoccabile replied on Mon Dec 15, 2003 @ 4:13pm |
| Coolness: 65565 | Hey it's all good, I was just sharing my views on production, I wasn't giving orders or anything
I did this thread so people could share their do's and don't's and maybe learn from one another reece's IMO have been * rinsed * to death since Ray Keith's Terrorist... Sure there are a lot of great tracks out there with reeces, but me, I don't wanna use it anymore, I'm moving on... Do you remember what happened with the dread bass sound, around 95 ( spring / summer of 95 to be more precise ) ? People were making tracks using amens and this bass sound and ragga vocals... They got tired of this sound as everyone was making the same shit... And then suddenly the dread bass disappeared, it had become kinda kitsch... I think the exact same thing will happen to the reece... But that's just my opinion, I may be wrong... Rinsed out ! Same with the amen, and with a lot of the more popular classic breaks ( assembly line, soul pride, funky drummer, etc. ), I think there's so much you can do with a classic break, yeah for sure you can ( well you have to ) chop it and rearrange it, process it in an original way so that it will sound fresh and new, but, i don't know, now, and maybe that'll change later, I feel like programming my own beats from scratch... I rarely use classic breaks for layering... Coffee, pot, well, to each his own... I don't always drink coffee in the studio, sometimes I sit down with a bowl of cocoa puffs or a slice of pizza, depends the mood I'm in... I'm all about rejecting old tools, and creating new ones since we have the means to do so ( fm synthesis, soft synths, etc ) For me drum and bass has always been about pushing the sound... Like Rob Playford ( Suburban base ) said one day : " As soon as people start putting out tracks that sound the same, we move on. That's the secret really " |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» eLDee replied on Tue Dec 16, 2003 @ 2:55pm |
| Coolness: 121630 | Poonanny.. we oughtta hooks up soon |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mike_Stinger replied on Tue Dec 16, 2003 @ 8:27pm |
 Coolness: 51955 | you can use whatever - why no sampled bass for instance? make a track with just amens (vic acid by squarepusher is just amens and its fucking wild)....If you don't get too into doing or not doing what everyone else does, you're ok. if you hear every new track then maybe you'll know what has been done and what hasn't, but if you don't give a shit about hearing everything, you won't be influenced by any of that - for better of for worse. I've used the reece I guess but I don't care about the dnb trends so fuck it - i'll use it again at some point! nothing is off limits and stuff like FM synthesis, granular, vocoding, time stretching have been around since before there were even computers, so...there's a lot out there besides dnb to check out
definitely agree with "if its going nowhere then scrap it". i've wasted time making tracks that went nowhere, then wasted more time trying to get them to not go nowhere, and they rarely do! soft synths are cool but real analog synths are phatter. and you can use just loops but isolate the individual hits from like 6 different loops (the kick from one, a snare from another etc) and do great stuff. i'm sick of loop discrimination! just don't leave it looping for the whole song fuck. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Tue Dec 16, 2003 @ 8:35pm |
| Coolness: 201940 | Fm synthsis is ill, I for one am a big fan |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mike_Stinger replied on Tue Dec 16, 2003 @ 8:41pm |
| Coolness: 51955 | yeah Mr. FM or something? ;-) Soundforge has a great FM synthesis function which is super easy to control... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Tue Dec 16, 2003 @ 8:43pm |
| Coolness: 201940 | Fm_man... I used lots of fm synths in buzz like taurus (dx7 emulator), mx7, and fm7 vst! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ApR1zM replied on Wed Dec 17, 2003 @ 8:04am |
 Coolness: 165515 | fm7 is sweet ! :) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Mon Dec 22, 2003 @ 1:05pm |
| Coolness: 201940 | here's an important tip that applies to any kind of music... When you are adjusting levels of tracks, don't do it when the volume is blasting, set the volume to a comfortable level where you can hear everything fine. When you play music very loud the sound from the speaker is not true and it adds "glue" to the sound and might make it sound better than it is. Obviously, once you are satisfied with your levels, listen to it loud, to see how it sounds...
Don't overuse reverb/chorus effects especially on bassy parts, basslines and kicks ussually have more impact with no reverb anyway. Reverb also causes out of phase sounds and out of phase bass is something you don't want especially if you are pressing to vinyl, because it can FUCK everything UP. |
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