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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» beercrack replied on Wed Dec 3, 2003 @ 2:25pm
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bunnytronix replied on Wed Dec 3, 2003 @ 2:48pm
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I've been listening to that Saj'dah ram
for the past 5 minutes.

D'you go through all of it?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» beercrack replied on Wed Dec 3, 2003 @ 4:45pm
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Originally posted by GREY POOPON...

I've been listening to that Saj'dah ram
for the past 5 minutes.

D'you go through all of it?


this rik davis dude is far the funk out

taken from [ zebox.com ]

07.24.2002/Cybotron : A discussion with Rik Davis

When Cybotron released the LP 'Enter' on the Fantasy record label in 1983, the music world could never have imagined what impact it would have on contemporary electronic music. Splicing
tech noir, paranoia, apocalyptic vision and electro, Cybotron managed to capture the essence of a city in flux and an uncertain future.
Of course, now it all seems so obvious, looking back: Rik Davis and Juan Atkins, Cybotron collaborators, carved out their own highly specific niche. After this album, Juan Atkins went solo as Model 500 and developed his own sound, Rik Davis continuing as Cybotron. I had the good fortune to get in touch with Rik and our highly individual discussion follows...

SNS: Hi Rik, Thank you for your time. Anyone who has studied the early history of Techno and Electro would be aware of the formation and music of Cybotron. At that time you had partnered with Juan Atkins and had been signed to Fantasy records, at which time you created and released the seminal 'Enter' album.
Clearly, the philosphy behind it was very futurist and seemed like the US answer to Kraftwerk. What creative steps led you to
this point and were you aware at the time that the sound you were carving out was quite unique and would have such an impact?

CYBOTRON: Futurist? Futurism without spiritual sight is artistic and intellectual suicide, Picasso, and Dali were both futurists,
but abandoned the dead end of mindless futurism for the warm God inspired depths of surrealism and neo cubism, where they could paint with social and religious iconography and thus effect change in society. They could resist anarchy and
fascism, two things which go hand in hand! No great musical personality has failed to produce his solemnity, or songs of praise and wonder, or to take his portion of victory over the
Beast... Therefore the essence of "Enter" is "APOCALYPTIC" not Futurist. Kraftwerk bores me! With its mindless and soulless repetitive beats! With its lack of lyrical content. I
found Ultra Vox, with their "Rage in Eden" approach far more stimulating, and closer to the goal of "CELESTIAL MUSE". As far as sound goes, this is irrelevant. If you approach music on that basis you will end up as out of style as "black face minstrelism". The King of the Judeo-Christian musical matrix is
David, or Da'ood as he is called by the Koranists. He left behind NO SOUND! Only lyrics! This is the soul of all musics!
Whoever departs from celestial order into chaos, shall perish in his own juices and gall. Impact means nothing! Everything on the radio has impact in the loony bin of popularity. Where
everything has impact, nothing has real impact! But in short time becomes irrelevant as it degenerates into fading mass memory and becomes white noise... This is the first century of
recorded media!

SNS: What was it like working with Juan?

CYBOTRON: Juan is talented, but adverse to the guitar. And ensnared in the contradiction of "Step time" and the quick fix of "The turntable". Which I have no interest in at all. I must have the Keyboard synth and the lyrical device! The vast sci fi synth texture, soaring legato, syrup thick, mocking the pimp inspired lies of the gangsta mind!

SNS: Obviously, since that time there have been countless evolutions of electronic and Techno music. How have you viewed that evolution.

CYBOTRON: Electronic Music is Subotnik!, Tomita, Larry Fast, Carlos etc. The acoustic maestros trapped the proto electronic musicians at the slaughter of the "Ars Electronica"... They had
to deny the synth a place in the classical halls, so as to ensure the continuation of the slavery of the orthodox symphonia! And to prevent "New Masters."
Techno Died with "Rage in Eden"... When the mindless pimps who controlled the lie of radio pop and the suicide by drugs and aids "night clubs", decided they would have no mention of God interupting their orgies. They died by the tens of thousands horribly! More kids died of anal copulation and pop drugs than died in Viet Nam. I am "TEKNO" this is my religion. I am
"CYBER" this is my Art!

SNS: So, the message of Cybotron is essentially apocalyptic in nature? That is, it represents a message of divinity, opposed to the workings of the music industry at large?

CYBOTRON: The "music industry" has as it's goal the exploitation of the creative, and the public. I cannot be concerned with that. It shall die and the men in it shall die but the artistic remains. It is corrupt but the artist, it's victim remains pure.
The divine? Look here...

"As I slice through your TOWERS of glass and adamantine steel...

To which of your Las Vegas Gods will you appeal?...

Traces of cosmic lies on your blood stained path..

And I'm not the kind to sell out cuz I understand the new
math..."

Rik Davis "Final Fantasy" from the album "Cyber Ghetto" circa
1995.

Futurism was a delusion of the pre world war 2 Bolsheviks. Apocalypse means revelation of truth. Futurism died under the heel of Stalinism and fascism. The world of Reaganic neofuturism
died with the collapse of the twin towers of Babel dude. In Afghanistan, all music was banned by the Taliban, all tek was suppressed, the only book allowed in school was the Koran. TV was
banned! This is the fate that the Marxist trained Anti-Tek worldwide Muslim conspiracy, would have us go to! We are in the
Jihad right now. Toffler never foresaw this, but the Apocalyptians did! The same people have now slain and seek to slay all those who do not follow their divine view. But the cleansing of the hives will overtake them as well as the
agents of chaos! As it always does.

SNS: I have often thought that the dark side of electronic music, especially the sensation obsessed club side of it, has the potential to unlock the robot inside of us and diminish our
capacity for critical thought. The beat box has been turned into a money making device. But I also believe that independent music
and Internet distribution represents a revolutionary element that might catalyse new change. What are your thoughts
on these possibilities?

CYBOTRON: The beat box is an instrument as any other, but where everyone is an artist, there is no art! The club scene is a mindless orgy of disposable music and hedonistic delusion! There
is not a single club that shall not utterly perish and become a ruin. Anyone who bases his life and energy in the clubs shall likewise be destroyed. No one can hold on to style in the
clubs! There is no thought in the clubs, only "the F**k", and the club owner is getting all the action, not you!

SNS: I just have to ask you out of curiosity, what is your studio setup like? Do you have any preference for software based production?

CYBOTRON: I prefer Korg and ensonique, and roland synths, a PC with MOTU 24bit modules, Cubase... Trinity, no turntables... I
think you deceive yourself when you call yourself performing at a fake soiree like "the Detroit Electronic Music festival" and you bring turntables, what is the diff between Detroit Techno and hip hop?

SNS: What is the next step for Cybotron?

CYBOTRON: Desk top "Cyber Videos", Internet movies, Neo art forms. Hip hop and mindless techno beats have killed the record thing.. Michael Jackson's "Invincible" cost 30 million dollars to make! People are downloading the music for free because the music is disposable, it's all so meaningless. We must evolve
into a form that will be believed in, collectable, and also non disposible.

SNS: Thank you for your time.

To find out more about Cybotron, visit the website:
[ www.cybotron.com ]
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» soyfunk replied on Wed Dec 3, 2003 @ 7:34pm
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cybotron; i like the sound of it already just by the name

CYBOTRRRON!!!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bunnytronix replied on Wed Dec 3, 2003 @ 8:48pm
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so it's a music... band? producer?

You're gonna have to explain when we see. Attention span...kinda short, you know.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» musork replied on Wed Dec 3, 2003 @ 11:58pm
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I cant belive that some of you have never heard of cybertron... they put out the first techno records... half of Cybertron is jaun atkins aka model 500, infinity the godfather of techno come on guys get outta this timewarp that mtl is in detroit is where it all began and not in some snotty eurpean cafe like everyone in the city seems to think...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» beercrack replied on Thu Dec 4, 2003 @ 12:21am
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Originally posted by NAW...

I cant belive that some of you have never heard of cybertron... they put out the first techno records... half of Cybertron is jaun atkins aka model 500, infinity the godfather of techno come on guys get outta this timewarp that mtl is in detroit is where it all began and not in some snotty eurpean cafe like everyone in the city seems to think...


I've been delving into cybotron (rik davis)'s website and man this guy is definitely FAR OUT
(u gotta click the five fingers - the genies is what I'm reading now) - the rig veda, the koran, judeo-christianism, techno, sex, CTHULHU (c'mon man! cthulhu! love it!)
now I know detroit is the birthplace of the electrotech or whatever u may call it, and the underground resistance, and drexciya, et. al.
and it also the birthplace of P-FUNK (motor booty affair)... so get up on the downstroke
anyways back to the electro
naw I'm with u on this one

"313ctr0

a night drive thru babylon
... the motor city is still burning "

[ www.phinnweb.com ]

- don't sleep on this link
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» musork replied on Thu Dec 4, 2003 @ 1:17am
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here check this out [ music.hyperreal.org ]
its a snotty list but some of the founders of the detroit scene are on the list..
Ive seen posts by terrance parker, drexcia (rip) befor he pasted away, t1000, some of the submerge guys like mad mike... and others its a rough list but if your into being schooled this is the place to learn it all...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» musork replied on Thu Dec 4, 2003 @ 1:59am
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one more thing here is a histroy of techno
[ www.jahsonic.com ]
and some awesome folks doing good things in the detroit area for years...
[ www.paxahau.com ]
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» beercrack replied on Thu Dec 4, 2003 @ 10:43pm
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right on...
I'll be peeping it.
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