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Ecstasy Being Tested As Treatment
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Wed Nov 26, 2003 @ 2:26pm |
 Coolness: 92365 | Scientists in America are set to begin a controversial study to see if the dance-floor drug ecstasy could be used as a medicine to help people suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder.
In what will be the first trial of its kind, the researchers will see if the emotional closeness reported by clubbers taking the drug can help victims of rape and sexual abuse talk to therapists. Supporters of the study, which has been approved by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA), claim it marks an important milestone in the medical rehabilitation of ecstasy, or MDMA, which was given to patients by some alternative therapists in the 1970s and was made illegal only in the 1980s. "What we'd like to do is develop MDMA into a prescription medicine," said Rick Doblin, the founder and head of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies, which is co-ordinating and funding the new trial. "MDMA has a dramatic ability to help people express deeper emotions, to look at emotionally conflicted topics from their past and it promotes a certain catharsis." The study could begin in January, recruiting 20 victims of crime suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder who find it difficult to talk about their experience. Each will receive 17 sessions of counselling with a therapist; before two sessions they will swallow a placebo or a capsule containing 125 milligrams of MDMA - more than the amount found in a typical ecstasy tablet. The trial will be double-blind, meaning neither the patients nor the investigators will know who has taken the drug. If the one-year trial is a success, further research will follow, Dr Doblin says. Before considering ecstasy as a prescription drug for post-traumatic stress disorder, the FDA would require convincing evidence of its benefits from two larger studies using hundreds of people. The research is hugely controversial, and getting it off the ground has been difficult. The FDA first approved the study in November 2001 but insisted that Dr Doblin's group also get the green light from an independent ethics review board. Permission was finally granted in September. One hurdle remains. The Drug Enforcement Administration has not yet issued the licence needed to handle the 3.5 grams of ecstasy for the trial to the South Carolina psychiatrist who will administer it. "My guess is that we'll get the approval before the end of the year," Dr Doblin said. The dangers of ecstasy remain uncertain. This year, scientists at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine were forced to admit that a high-profile discovery that just one dose of MDMA could cause irreversible brain damage and even death was nonsense because they had used the wrong drug in their experiment. But significant doubts remain over long-term risks: animal studies suggest that it can lower levels of the brain chemical serotonin and some anti-drugs campaigners and politicians have argued that research into the possible medical use of illegal drugs presents a false reassuring message about them. Dr Doblin accepts that the drug carries risks, but insists they can be controlled. - Guardian |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ashtraygirl replied on Wed Nov 26, 2003 @ 3:19pm |
 Coolness: 90160 | it's bad enough to be suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder without having to deal with an ecstacy comedown! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PookStah replied on Sat Nov 29, 2003 @ 3:12pm |
 Coolness: 106590 | ^^ ya seriously
i found in the long run, i had a lot more after e/mdma |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sat Nov 29, 2003 @ 3:39pm |
 Coolness: 201900 | That's funny because when I was doing one psychology course the teacher (a practicing psychologist with a PHD) said she has had some patients before who were fine untill they took E just once, and then had lots of problems after |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Sat Nov 29, 2003 @ 10:15pm |
| Coolness: 92365 | obviously mdma isn't a cure-all, we're talking here about a specific psychological disorder
and if you pre/post load properly, theres basically no comedown |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sun Nov 30, 2003 @ 4:28pm |
| Coolness: 201900 | If it was used for treatment, by trained professionals, and it worked... that would be great.
But that wouldn't do anything to justify recreational use... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Suckballs_bebe replied on Fri Dec 12, 2003 @ 10:19am |
| Coolness: 67160 | Yah that's kind of hard to believe considering Mdma's hamful affects on the brain. You do know ecstasy is so bad that it knocks off I.Q. points right? The reason why you feel so stupid the next couple of days after consumption is because the drugs has litterally burned hundreds of neurons (and they don't grow back) rendering your brain incapable of sending messages to your body to make you function properly. Yah you end up feeling better after a while but that's just because the neurons that are left are working at a faster speed leaving you at higher risk of anurisms, becoming brain dead, strokes and so on. That isn't a come down that you feel, that's brain damage. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Fri Dec 12, 2003 @ 11:12am |
 Coolness: 472480 | Had a strong I.Q before ...like 142 or so .....
Its all gone i guess .. Now i'm retarded for i've done a hundred e'"s at least .... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Fri Dec 12, 2003 @ 11:53am |
 Coolness: 686265 | It only affects people negativeley if you take huge doses, which is what ravers do. MDMA in small doses was used by therapists in the 70s to help people who were having problems with coping with things they'd find out about themselves and to make them more open to talking and self-realisation. Of course, too much of a good thing isn't always good... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Suckballs_bebe replied on Fri Dec 12, 2003 @ 12:05pm |
| Coolness: 67160 | Yeah but back in the day they also used to prescrice heroine as a pain killer, put cocain in aspirins and speed in weight loss pills. There's a reason why drugs are illegal, because they have harmful affects on the body and they are addictive. Mdma in ANY type of dose is bad for for you, any of those drugs are and that's why, even for medical purposes, they aren't used. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Fri Dec 12, 2003 @ 12:07pm |
| Coolness: 472480 | Seriously it fucked me up in the longrun ... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Fri Dec 12, 2003 @ 12:38pm |
| Coolness: 686265 | If anything, from doing drugs, I can say that the only one that ever really seemed to affect me "permanently" (other than those bloody shrooms) is K. Every time I've done K, after and the next few days, I've felt like there's something that I used to know, but that I don't anymore. It's really disturbing, knowing that you've forgotten something important, but you'll only find out what it is when you need it. Speed/mdma all I've had afterwards was crack-outs that lasted like a day at most.
And for heroin, sure they don't give it in that form in hospitals, but they give morphine and codeine, which are the same thing with slight diffrences. Opiate is an opiate no matter what the name is. It has the same effect, the same addiction possibilities, and the same negative side effects. Heroin just happens to be the "dirtyer" of the familly and the one that's easier for dealers to get their hands on. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Fri Dec 12, 2003 @ 1:16pm |
| Coolness: 92365 | Originally posted by *CHERIE*...
There's a reason why drugs are illegal, because they have harmful affects on the body and they are addictive. Some drugs are legal. Some drugs aren't. The reason why has NOTHING to do with which ones are harmful or not, and everything to do with what happens to be accepted by society. Take nicotine, for example, its one of the most harmful drugs to the body AND one of the most addictive (more so than heroin). Yet its socially acceptable, for the simple reason that you can smoke like a chimney and still work your 40 hour work-week, which is all that society really cares about - being a "productive" citizen. Constrast that with most psychedelics (mushrooms, LSD, peyote, etc) which have no known harmful effects on the body and are not physically addictive. As for MDMA, there is conflicting evidence as to whether or not it is harmful. Most MDMA users are polydrug users so its impossible to defintely link psychological problems of users with MDMA. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Fri Dec 12, 2003 @ 5:19pm |
| Coolness: 686265 | Yeah, weed is illegal not because of the smoking, but because of hemp. Weed is just that, a weed. You don't need to care for it, it'll just grow and spread and take over a field if you leave it, and it can then be harvested for hemp. Hemp was a big threat to cotton because of this, because cotton needed tons of care and had to have special picking techniques or else the plants were ruined. Weed, you just mow the thing over and it'll grow back in a couple of weeks. Hemp was cheaper for making clothes, rope, and you could even make paper and other things with it. But it was a threat to the cotton industry, so it was made illegal.
Weed's illegality has NOTHING to do with health or anything even REMOTELY related to ingestion, it's illegal because important people were losing money. |
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