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High On Nutmeg??
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Toltech replied on Tue Aug 12, 2003 @ 1:12am |
 Coolness: 146115 | MACMILLAN DICTIONARY OF TOXICOLOGY:
myristicin A naturally occurring methylenedioxyphenyl compound found in nutmeg. It has been suggested that Hallucinogenic Effect of Nutmeg Sir, - A patient tells us it is common knowledge among the drug-taking and hippie sub-culture that taking nutmeg is a potent way of taking a "trip". The hallucinogen in nutmeg is believed to be . An intelligent 19-year-old female with a hysterical personality took one ounce of nutmeg in water and orange juice. She had five fays previously taken L.S.D. with very little effect. She had also experimented with cannabis, but the only noticeable effect of this was that she developed a dry mouth. In contrast to this the effects of nutmeg were marked. At first she felt no effect, but after four hours she felt cold and shivery. Six to eight hours later she was vomiting severely. She saw faces and the room appeared distorted, with flashing lights and loud music. She felt a different person and everything seemed unreal. Time appeared to stand still. She felt vibrations and twitches in her limbs. When she shut her eyes she saw lights, black creatures, red eyes and felt sucked into the ground. Her mood was one of elation. She was taken by her friends to be seen by one of us (D.P.) as an emergency. She was admitted and quickly fell into a sound sleep. For the next week, however, she felt that she was walking in a cloud and complained that her thinking was confused and she found it difficult to follow what people were saying. Her concentration seemed poor and lapses of attention were noticed. myristicin may be responsible, in whole or in part, for the toxicity of nutmeg. The spice (5-15g) causes symptoms similar to atropine poisoning: flushing of skin, tachycardia, absence of salivation, and excitation of the central nervous system. Euphoria and hallucinations have given rise to abuse of this material. As a methylenedioxyphenyl compound, myristicin gives rise to a type III spectrum with reduced cytochrome P-450 and can inhibit monooxygenations catalyzed by this cytochrome myristicin A toxic, crystalline, safrole derivative present in star anise, parsley seed oil, and nutmeg oil. When ingested in large quantities, it can cause convulsions, hallucinations, tachycardia, and possibly death. Within 3 days of receiving ground nutmeg 9 teaspoonfuls daily to control the diarrhoea associated with nodullary carcinoma of the thyroid, a patient complained of dry eyes and mouth, blurred vision, dizziness, tingling, and feelings of depersonalisation and remoteness. The symptoms gradually subsided as the dose was reduced Case report The following is an account of the experiences of an eighteen-year-old student who ingested half a can (one fourth of a teacup) of commercially available nutmeg. His girl friend who was present throughout this experience did not partake of the nutmeg. He had taken marihuana on several occassions before that and had experienced vivid imagery under its influence. About two weeks had elapsed between the last time he had taken marihuana and the time he took nutmeg. The latter substance was taken partly out of curiosity (he had heard about its effect "by the grapevine"), but mainly because marihuana was not then available. Fifteen to twenty minutes after taking nutmeg, a teaspoon at a time, and flushing it down with Coca Cola, "things went funny." He felt "as if he had stayed awake for two days without sleeping" and "things started to look unreal" to him. His head shook back and forth, and when somebody said something to him, he could not see the connections between the sentences. He said he remembered that he "spoke up and nobody understood him" either. About one and a half hours after the ingestion, he started feeling "as though he had drunk fifty cups of coffee." He "could not stop shaking," he "was giggling," he "was saying stupid things," things he would not have said otherwise. His friend became aware of the change in him. The patient remembered she asked him whether or not he felt all right. "Peoples' voices appeared to come out of a porthole above my head." He "felt a tingling" in his hands, and presently his "whole body felt numb." Friends laid him down on the floor, and he remained there for some time. Finally he opened his eyes, looked at the lights on the ceiling, and felt they were cylinder-shaped. He raised his hands, grabbed one of those cylinder light beams, and sat up, "pulling himself up by that beam." He was still aware of his surroundings and noticed that people were watching him. His heart was beating fast, he was breathing hard, and his throat felt dry. Fortunately, he was constantly accompanied by his friend who subsequently corrobated his recollections. He "felt as though he was floating" but "he knew that in reality he was not floating." He knew that "friends were helping" him. His "legs felt numb" and as if "he was walking in a lake with the water up to his waist." His "hands appeared white and wrinkled" to him. At that point, he started feeling as if he was in a trance, and it was the first time that he did not know that people were around him. As he gradually came out of the trance, he could feel a ball in his hands; this ball would expand and contract as he moved his hands, but he could not see the ball. His friend said, "Touch something real!" He then touched the table and felt real again. Subsequently, he felt he kept going in and out of a trancelike state and could, on several occassions, even induce it himself. As he was walking, he felt that the floor was bow-shaped, and he had to hold on to the wall. He recalled that the following three hours were accompanied by these experiences: He would sit on a couch and he would drift away completely, "a great fog would be closing in" on him, and when he was surrounded by this fog "everything would turn black." "Spots of color, blue and red, would shine through this black cloud." Beyond the cloud, there seemed to him to be infinity. He "heard a massive confusion of sound," although to his knowledge there was no one talking and there were no sounds of any other nature at that time. But, again, when his friend called his name, he "came out of it." At times he felt excited, at times he felt relaxed. He remembered that he would often ask his friend to talk to him to keep him in reality. He found that he could, in this way, practically control his state of mind; that is, whether he would be in a trance state or not. When he looked at the picture of a countryside with deer in it, he felt as though he were floating into the picture and it took on a three-dimensional character. The deer were alive, the trees had shape. He started feeling everybody in the world could hear him. When he went out of the house and stepped onto the lawn, he anticipated that he would fall into it, as if into an ocean. He started writing in mirror writing, "Help! I'm trapped behind the world." He played a few notes on his recorder and felt that "each note was a brown disc." He then played a record; "the sound of music made a pattern of color. There was a central color and lines around it. The center was composed of the low notes, the bass, and the high notes were on the periphery." He remembered that sound made by "cymbals were silvery." This configuration kept changing, beating, and throbbing. Finally, he could not stand it no longer, and he turned the music off. By this time, some eight or nine hours had elapsed from the ingestion of nutmeg. He started becoming confused, and memory (recall) became very poor. He fell asleep and seemed to realize that he could finally go to sleep without "dropping out." Comment The preceding narrative was given spontaneously by an intelligent, perceptive, and sensitive adolescent who had had prior experience with marihuana and morning-glory seeds. The frequent connection of the two is known. (3, 5) He felt that on marihuana, the predominant feeling was one of enjoyment and happiness, of being liked and floating. Hallucinations were less marked. On morning-glory seeds, he also had a light, floating sensation, but it seemed to be of a different kind, and the most marked thing was a constant feeling of euphoria. On both these substances, he felt he never really left reality, and he thought that this was a major distinction between these substances and nutmeg. He repeated his experience with nutmeg in a smaller dose. On one tablespoon full of the substance he "felt high" or sometimes "weird," but without hallucinations; music sounded better although it did not sound louder. None of the colourful changes in perception occurred on the small dose of nutmeg. THE BRITISH JOURNAL OF ADDICTION, Vol.53, No.2 Excerpt from the "letter from a master addict to dangerous drugs", sent by William Burroughs at August 3rd, 1956. This letter is also in Appendix I in his novel "The Naked Lunch", where this is quoted from. (ISBN 0-586-08560-2). Nutmeg. - Convicts and sailors sometimes have recourse to nutmeg. About a tablespoon is swallowed with water. Results are vaguely similar to marijuana with side effects of headache and nausea. Death would probably supervene before addiction if such addiction is possible. I have only taken nutmeg once. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» kitkat replied on Tue Aug 12, 2003 @ 1:19am |
 Coolness: 71945 | first off...nutmeg is REALLY fucking hard to swallow in a big enough amount...it starts to taste really bad
and..then it makes you feel pretty shitty...crazy dry mouth, disorientation, headache, nausea... i didnt take enough to have any crazy hallucinations or anything but i dont think itd be a pleasant trip |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Toltech replied on Tue Aug 12, 2003 @ 1:40am |
| Coolness: 146115 | then it makes you feel pretty shitty...crazy dry mouth, disorientation, headache, nausea
I see similarities with other drugs. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Tue Aug 12, 2003 @ 1:50pm |
 Coolness: 472500 | Motorheads ! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» beercrack replied on Tue Aug 12, 2003 @ 3:24pm |
 Coolness: 72130 | i seeps out your pores like it was gin or pinesol or sometype of turpentine and it makes you heavy and groggy but in the kama sutra nutmeg is used to restore sexual vigor imagine that when i read about malcom x doing it in prison i had to try it
it seemed like the thing to do when bored and young and having no proper guidance i ate some nuts dont that sound gay eating nuts |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Tue Aug 12, 2003 @ 3:57pm |
| Coolness: 472500 | It does .... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nter replied on Tue Aug 12, 2003 @ 4:55pm |
 Coolness: 93190 | check out [ www.totse.com ] u can find shit like this |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Tue Aug 12, 2003 @ 4:58pm |
| Coolness: 472500 | Word Mike !!!! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» julie_eaves replied on Tue Aug 12, 2003 @ 11:51pm |
| Coolness: 94970 | hahaha me and Alexi and bowzer tried this before..hahah it was reallllly gross and we ate alot and didnt get high...bowzer put his on crackers...i made some kind of paste with chocolate or something i think or water...i cant remember lol but ya it didnt work |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» wisp replied on Wed Aug 13, 2003 @ 7:54am |
| Coolness: 98015 | its like, if ur desperate, you do nutmeg.
gross. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cloud9ine replied on Wed Aug 13, 2003 @ 8:10am |
 Coolness: 139415 | maybe y'all should just try snorting it, instead. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Wed Aug 13, 2003 @ 10:16am |
| Coolness: 472500 | Ha ha gold !
Jackie rocks ! |
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