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Anyone Have A Login For Jstor?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Wed Jul 6, 2011 @ 9:19am
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really need access to some journal articles for something I am working on.

[ www.jstor.org ]

anybody?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo replied on Wed Jul 6, 2011 @ 9:28am
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My account there does not work anymore; my institution refuses to pay publisher subscriptions, so I can only get papers one at a time by sending a request... (which is a little complicated and frustrating, but thankfully I find most papers I need for free)
Anyway, ask me the specific papers you need, I might have a few of them already.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa replied on Wed Jul 6, 2011 @ 5:59pm
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I have to login through a proxy and with my U creds, don't have specific creds for jstor... Worst case scenario, send me the author/titles and I'll see about sending you the .pdfs?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Thu Jul 7, 2011 @ 7:03am
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On Conditionals (1995), Mind 104:235-329. Dorothy Edgington

to start with then others...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo replied on Thu Jul 7, 2011 @ 9:40am
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Sorry, can't help you with this one. Maybe ask someone you know in a grad school/faculty, you'll eventually find somebody with a Jstor access.

If you need papers on logic, computer science, maths, information theory, I might have them; but not philosophy papers.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa replied on Fri Jul 8, 2011 @ 3:43pm
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Got it. PMing.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Mon Jul 18, 2011 @ 4:40pm
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i have accesss through work. I can email you specific papers if you know what you want
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Tue Jul 19, 2011 @ 4:51pm
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cool thanks, i'll pm u?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo replied on Tue Jul 19, 2011 @ 5:14pm
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Originally Posted By GAMOS

i have accesss through work.

Out of curiosity, where do you work? I wonder which institution still pays full subscription to scientific publishers, especially Jstor. A huge university library, maybe?

BTW I checked the Jstor subcription of my former lab, but it's limited to maths and computer science domains (no philosophy).
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Wed Jul 20, 2011 @ 8:47am
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no jstor has all kinds of stuff i want, stuff from mind and analysis...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo replied on Wed Jul 20, 2011 @ 9:21am
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I'm talking about the subscription, which is only a limited access to all the publications. Generally, subscriptions (and their cost) are defined according to a list of themes and/or journals.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Fri Jul 22, 2011 @ 7:03pm
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Originally Posted By FLO

Out of curiosity, where do you work? I wonder which institution still pays full subscription to scientific publishers, especially Jstor. A huge university library, maybe?

BTW I checked the Jstor subcription of my former lab, but it's limited to maths and computer science domains (no philosophy).


I work for a self-funded research institution. I think the subscription is like $50 000 per year. Thats like 250$ per researcher per year, which is pretty low.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo replied on Fri Jul 22, 2011 @ 7:48pm
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I find these subscriptions way overpriced (like most researchers do), all the more since the publishers almost do not have anything to do in the editing/publishing process nowadays. The authors make most of the edition anyway, and the editors (who are just researchers) gather the articles and make nice proceedings/journals themselves; the publishers just make money on our backs. This is why more and more conferences and journals, even among the best, are switching to free publishing (with e.g. Creative Commons licence).

So, even if you think that an average researcher accesses publications for over $250 worth a year, I think all this should be (close to) free by now. Most researchers make their papers available online anyways. Jstor is good for finding old papers (before 1990), and there's a twilight zone for papers between 1985 and 2000 (roughly), in which papers are difficult to find online for free.

Knowledge should be freely available; maybe it's ok to pay for the material (paper for the book/proceedings/journal, or database setup and maintenance for the online storage), but the fees cannot be reasonably as high as $20-$50 per paper or $100-$300 per book, seriously.

Out of curiosity, which institution are you working at? At least, what's the research domain?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Sat Jul 23, 2011 @ 9:27am
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i agree with flo if I go to a library and have the patients to peel through original hard copies of the journals i can have it free (well almost, photocopier fees) so why do i have to pay for some online subscription? What a fucking bullshit pain in the ass it is,
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo replied on Sat Jul 23, 2011 @ 12:09pm
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Sat Jul 23, 2011 @ 5:58pm
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jstor is non-profit. Im not saying there isn't a lot of people getting overpaid there, but philosophically, the goal is to distribute academic journals to its members for the lowest possible fee.

I think a lot of the fee is redirected via royalities and licence agreements to the publishers.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo replied on Sat Jul 23, 2011 @ 6:08pm
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Indeed, the money is all for the publishers, nothing for the authors nor editors (who do 95% of the work).
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Sun Jul 24, 2011 @ 6:58am
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just like record execs
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