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Good [+4]Toggle ReplyLink» Chocmonster replied on Tue Mar 29, 2011 @ 12:03pm
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Honestly I understand why Antonino is frustrated, you guys seriously have been insulting him and making fun of him for years.
Yeah he may like younger women, but a large population of men do,especially in the rave scene.
Women are also known to like older men, so why blame a guy for trying right.

He's been nothing but nice and polite to me, and to a lot of other women I know, and i find it funny that a lot of people who complain about his "creepiness", openly pose in pictures with him.

It's not like he's taking underskirt shots, or pictures of women in bathroom stalls, and from what i've seen, he usually asks "Can I take a picture with you?" then proceeds to.

If someone puts his face next to yours, and puts a camera in front of you two, and then a flash appears, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what's going on...

When women see a guy with a camera(especially a nice one) they flock to him, i've seen this happen countless times. If he figured this out and is using it to his advantage good for him.

And honestly women, if you're even somewhat attractive, it's not like you haven't had to deal with creepy men since the time you hit puberty, we're always on the deffensive,and ladies are always quick to label a guy as "creepy or weird", if they simply don't like one thing about him.
The truth is if antonino had been some really handsome guy or maybe a bit smoother with his words,or even behind turntables at some point...( i've seen eyes light up when this happens trust me) the female population wouldn't mind him so much.

I don't see why everyone is acting like he's the only man who's ever come up to you and been a bit odd, and if he is... well there will be a lot more to come.

So he does things that are a bit weird in his free time, which one of us doesn't. I really doubt that anyone would like what they do in their spare time to be under such intense scrutiny, and be judged by practically everyone in the rave scene. Isn't the rave scene supposed to be an amalgamation of people who always stuck out a bit, or who didn't quite fit in. What we hated most in places like high school or other times in our lives was to be judged by other who didn't know about our lives or take the time to get to know us. That's exactly what everyone is doing here.

I mean there are so many more horrid and dangerous things going on in the world than a guy who takes a lot of pictures with girls.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Tue Mar 29, 2011 @ 12:26pm
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well said :)
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» raisinlove replied on Tue Mar 29, 2011 @ 1:04pm
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well I just think dating girls more than 5 years younger is insane :D
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn replied on Tue Mar 29, 2011 @ 1:13pm
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Originally Posted By RAISINLOVE

well I just think dating girls more than 5 years younger is insane :D


*coughcoughcoughcoughcoughcough*
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Lady_A replied on Tue Mar 29, 2011 @ 1:14pm
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Originally Posted By RAISINLOVE

well I just think dating girls more than 5 years younger is insane :D


How about a girl with a guy that is 5 years younger? :D
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nodeletesucks replied on Tue Mar 29, 2011 @ 1:22pm
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I'm 20. Until last year I always dated girls 5 years older than me MINIMUM.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AYkiN0XiA replied on Tue Mar 29, 2011 @ 1:40pm
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mean age of the guys i've had sex with must be 10 to 12 years older than me, and i'm perfectly aware of it, and completely fine with it. i'm not insane, i just like it that way...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Tue Mar 29, 2011 @ 1:56pm
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Originally Posted By CHOCMONSTER

Honestly I understand why Antonino is frustrated, you guys seriously have been insulting him and making fun of him for years.

Even if that was the case, his reaction is downright emotional and quite frankly the worse way of righting wrongs. You'd think that someone who deals with the public so much would have a more thoughtful and posed attitude instead of reacting like an immature bi-polar child and issuing threats. if you're going to be made fun of by a bunch of juvenile renegades, the last thing you'd want to do is stoop the same level. But he did.

For me, that alone made him loose a thousand points of credibility.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» KORHAL replied on Tue Mar 29, 2011 @ 2:02pm
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@Chocmonster, like AlienZed said, well said.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» raisinlove replied on Tue Mar 29, 2011 @ 2:06pm
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Originally Posted By DRNYARLATHOTEP

*coughcoughcoughcoughcoughcough*


I'm insaaaaane :D
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Tue Mar 29, 2011 @ 3:02pm
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age aint nutin but a number...
Update » AlienZeD wrote on Tue Mar 29, 2011 @ 3:31pm
also, this!

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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Chocmonster replied on Tue Mar 29, 2011 @ 3:53pm
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Originally Posted By V.2-1

Even if that was the case, his reaction is downright emotional and quite frankly the worse way of righting wrongs. You'd think that someone who deals with the public so much would have a more thoughtful and posed attitude instead of reacting like an immature bi-polar child and issuing threats. if you're going to be made fun of by a bunch of juvenile renegades, the last thing you'd want to do is stoop the same level. But he did.

For me, that alone made him loose a thousand points of credibility.


Of course his reaction is emotional, you guys have been directly attacking the guy for years, making threads that laugh at him, pictures that compare him to pedobear, etc etc.
It's not his job to "right wrongs" he hasn't done anhything except have an extensive picture collection. How about everyone else righting their wrongs
I mean you guys are enjoying yourselves at his expense. Keep poking at someone for that long and eventually they will explode, it's a natural human reaction. Hell i'm surprised he didn't blow up sooner.

Not even the wisest or calmest person can brag about always having had the most "mature" reactions to every situation. Hell i've seen full grown adults react more immaturely then kids who are 12.
Just because you deal with the public so much doesn't mean that you have to take everything they throw at you and let yourself get put down by them. Which is what a lot of people have been doing for so long.

And alright he lost a 1000 points of your credibility... so what? he doesn't have to be loved by everyone or prove anything to anyone. He's being himself, either you like it or you don't.
But what i find immature is people putting down people they don't like. Respect other people's ways are you would like yours to be respected, and if you dont like it, just let it be. Pretty vulgar metaphor but " Do i go into the bathroom while someone's taking a shit, sniff and tell them it smells bad?" No. If you don't find the guy credible, and he loses so many "points" in your book, then why are you wasting your time saying negative things about him.

ps: thanks alienzed and korhal :)
pps: haha where the hell did you get that mike? lol
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Tue Mar 29, 2011 @ 3:59pm
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Originally Posted By ALIENZED

there's no such thing as 'right' or 'wrong', it's only your opinion, with that said. the only thing that I think is wrong is when there's 'harm' being done. otherwise, let people do whatever they want to do, unless one of the people involved doesn't want...

i dunno if you guys heard recently that a 14 year old boy is being brought up on pedophilia charges in the states because his girlfriend sent him a video of herself pleasuring... herself...
the girl claims she was forced into it cause the boy said he wouldn't be her friend if she didn't do it...
Meanwhile the 14 year old boy is being tried as an adult and might do jail time and be put on the sex offender list...


see I think what they're doing in that case is just wrong, both in terms of morality and legality. how is a 14 year old being sent pornographic material of his (presumably) teenage girlfriend pedophilia? obviously if it's true that he pressured her, that's wrong. but .. come on. years ago that would get him a stern talking to, maybe a slap upside the head from his dad and some counselling. but trying a 14 year old as an adult pedophile?

The States can be so fucking barbaric sometimes. putting a vulnerable 14 year old kid into any kind of jail is like throwing a goldfish into a piranha tank. all that bad stuff you hear about what goes on in jails really does happen in a lot of jails. some people just get brutalized daily. some kids have been thrown in with hardened criminals, and they wind up committing suicide because they're being beaten and raped on a regular basis. and guards don't even do anything to stop it. it's cruel and unusual punishment on top of the sentence they're given.

if you listen to what the white convict has to say in the later part of the video 1, and the beginning of the second, that is a reality for a lot of young kids who get sent away. no civilized country should have a system like this




so basically when you get sent to these places, even if you're a soft person, you can be put in the same jail with hardened predators. my friend had to spend one night in Barton Jail in Hamilton and he said it was just awful. he's a tough enough guy too.. but two bigger guys tricked him into thinking they were friendly, then as soon as the cell door locked they both took turns kicking the shit out of him all night, until the guards unlocked the door the next morning..

so you have a choice of being predator or prey. some people go in for a short stint for car theft and wind up getting a 15 year sentence tacked on for stabbing another inmate in self defense. I saw an interview with a guy in New York City like that.. he went in as a kid in 1985 for a 2 year sentence, and he only just got released in 2008. so now the public has to deal with this angry battle-hardened unemployed psychopath walking the streets looking for someone to vent on. great!

again, to reiterate.. the penal system is barbaric... so it's no place to send some kid who's barely hit puberty. not in that case.

this is an article about the brutality of the new "superjail" for youth in the Toronto area:

Violence reports soar at youth jail

anyway a bit of a digression from the main topic, but I just don't think it's civilized to send anyone - let alone a 14 year old child - to places like this. it's not going to rehabilitate them. it'll either cripple them or turn them into a monster.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Tue Mar 29, 2011 @ 4:30pm
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Originally Posted By CHOCMONSTER

Of course his reaction is emotional, you guys have been directly attacking the guy for years, making threads that laugh at him, pictures that compare him to pedobear, etc etc.
It's not his job to "right wrongs" he hasn't done anhything except have an extensive picture collection. How about everyone else righting their wrongs
I mean you guys are enjoying yourselves at his expense. Keep poking at someone for that long and eventually they will explode, it's a natural human reaction. Hell i'm surprised he didn't blow up sooner.


Hasn't he been enjoying himself at the expense of others? Not everyone likes to have pics of their cleavage or drug-induced-retardation on the 'net, not everyone likes to be in his 'movie'. He's also allowed into parties for free 'cause he has a camera. Clearly he hits on alot of girls ... None of that is necessarily wrong, but some people might take offence - and that's natural.

Like I've said before, there are ways of taking a pic and making it look good, then there are ways of taking pics to have the maximum amount of cleavage and stuff in the shot. He does the latter. There are thousands of photographers in Montreal, why is he the only one being put down? hmm ... maybe it's his underlying themes? (young attractive raver chicks & himself).

So, that extensive picture collection you speak of is part of the problem.

I try not to insult him, and I say Hi when I see him, but I do criticise his methods.
And he has a right to speak up against that, but is he here in the thread taking a stand, explaining himself? No, it seems, he threatens individuals instead. Of course he's worried about his reputation! But sometimes that isn't the fault of others' reactions, or slander, it's your original actions.

Anyway, if you're gonna rave with people half your age, take a million pictures - most of which with your face in it, make a movie about that scene, talk to everyobdy, and basically put yourself in the spotlight, you have to expect some sort of reaction! It's a little naive/childish to be all "look at me! look at me! -- but don't judge me!" ... assume the consequences of your choices.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Tue Mar 29, 2011 @ 4:32pm
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Chocomonster is smart and wise.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Tue Mar 29, 2011 @ 4:36pm
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chocmonster: was going through comments on pictures and this pic was next to a pretty bad one...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Sparklz replied on Tue Mar 29, 2011 @ 4:50pm
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Originally Posted By ALIENZED





George?? :P
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Tue Mar 29, 2011 @ 4:57pm
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Originally Posted By CHOCMONSTER

Of course his reaction is emotional, you guys have been directly attacking the guy for years, making threads that laugh at him, pictures that compare him to pedobear, etc etc.
It's not his job to "right wrongs" he hasn't done anhything except have an extensive picture collection. How about everyone else righting their wrongs
I mean you guys are enjoying yourselves at his expense. Keep poking at someone for that long and eventually they will explode, it's a natural human reaction. Hell i'm surprised he didn't blow up sooner.

Again, I am NOT disputing his emotional response, I'm disputing HOW thoughtless his reaction was. Look, if you're accused of something you didn't do, would it be in your best advantage to come up with counter arguments instead of telling the accusers that they're ugly and to watch what they are saying "or else" ? That does shit all to re-establish your reputation, it only makes you look as stupid and retarded as the ones who started the slander originally. In laments term, it's terribly poor damage control for such accusations.




Originally Posted By CHOCMONSTER

Not even the wisest or calmest person can brag about always having had the most "mature" reactions to every situation. Hell i've seen full grown adults react more immaturely then kids who are 12.
Just because you deal with the public so much doesn't mean that you have to take everything they throw at you and let yourself get put down by them. Which is what a lot of people have been doing for so long.

Who said anything about letting yourself be beat to the ground ? Obviously, you shouldn't take any accusation lightly but not because "full grown adults react more immaturely then kids who are 12" that it gives you an excuse to do it. I just don't see how his reaction is helping him in any way. If he wants to be immature about the whole thing, hey it's his prerogative. All I'm saying is I personally don't find this to be an appropriate response to what people are implying on here.




Originally Posted By CHOCMONSTER

Respect other people's ways as you would like yours to be respected, and if you dont like it, just let it be. Pretty vulgar metaphor but " Do i go into the bathroom while someone's taking a shit, sniff and tell them it smells bad?" No. If you don't find the guy credible, and he loses so many "points" in your book, then why are you wasting your time saying negative things about him.


Because this is a public message board and, just like you, I'm entitled to my opinion. Respect other people's opinions as you would like yours to be respected, and if you don't like it, just let it be.

Look, I find your defending him very commendable, but what I'd really like to see is him responding to this on his own with half the intelligence, energy and sense you displayed here.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» raisinlove replied on Tue Mar 29, 2011 @ 5:06pm
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Originally Posted By VJ_ALBIREO

How about a girl with a guy that is 5 years younger? :D


a young cougar in this case ;P
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Tue Mar 29, 2011 @ 5:07pm
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Originally Posted By RAISINLOVE

a young cougar in this case ;P


cougar cub? xD
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