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Ppl Who Resist Authority, Stand Up For Privacy, Could Be Mentaly Ill
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Nov 15, 2010 @ 10:05pm |
this is quite possibly one of the scariest things I've read in a long time..
[ www.networkworld.com ] If you are a nonconformist who speaks up in defense of freedom and privacy, then you might be interested to know that some psychiatrists might recommend that you should be "cured" or locked away in a mental institution. Does it really annoy you when governments spy on citizens, such as the Fed's proposed plan to place government-mandated back doors in encryption software and all communications systems? Do you support the EFF which urged people to stand up and defend privacy? When you found out that spying on free speech is nearly at a Cold War level, or that the FBI spied and lied about improper surveillance, did you feel outrage at the loss of privacy and civil liberties? Does that make you mentally ill and in need of being thrown in a prison-like mental institution? I received a bizarre email tip, pointing me in the direction to write this article. If you are a nonconformist, resist authority, or a Constitutionalist, then you could be "cured" by being re-educated and popping pills since these traits are considered a mental illness. According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), which is published by the American Psychiatric Association, nonconformity and freethinking is a mental illness labeled "oppositional defiant disorder" or ODD. If psychiatrists follow the Fourth Edition of DSM diagnosis guidelines, people who stand up for privacy and freedom might be labeled as mentally ill. U.S.G.W.O. reports that it has confirmed "basically that anyone who disobeys authority or even questions authority is now considered mentally ill and can be thrown in a prison-like mental institution under tax payers dollars." I haven't read the entire book, but U.S.G.W.O. states that according to the psychiatric manual the following people would be diagnosed as having ODD: *Freethinkers *Constitutionalists *Oath Keepers *Nonconformists *Peaceful Activists *Peaceful Resistors *Those who partake in Civil Disobedience *Those that question Authority *Highly creative artists Okay, I'm no doctor but this seems insane! Thomas Jefferson, the 3rd President of the United States and one of the main authors of the Declaration of Independence, has been labeled a freethinker. Abraham Lincoln, the 16th President, is considered a "framer" of the Constitution who stated, "Democracy is the government of the people, by the people, for the people." Would America have been better off without these men? I most seriously doubt it. Does this mean that some of the brightest minds in security research would be considered defiant (another ODD characteristic) by testing software limits? Someone has to find the flaws and then patch them. Security expert Bruce Schneier speaks up for privacy, freedom and civil liberties. He is known for pointing out security theater and even joined privacy group EPIC to challenge TSA body scanners as the primary screening technique in U.S. airports. Mentally ill? Pahleeze! More like a brilliant and respectable person in favor of privacy. If a person would pick and choose only certain aspects of oppositional defiant disorder, then it seems most anyone could be labeled as being mentally ill with ODD. According to DSM: The essential feature of Oppositional Defiant Disorder is a recurrent pattern of negativistic, defiant, disobedient, and hostile behavior toward authority figures that persists for at least 6 months and is characterized by the frequent occurrence of at least four of the following behaviors: losing temper, arguing with adults, actively defying or refusing to comply with the requests or rules of adults, deliberately doing things that will annoy other people, blaming others for his or her own mistakes or misbehavior, being touchy or easily annoyed by others, being angry or resentful, or being spiteful or vindictive.
Well that pretty much sums up teenagers as a whole. Being diagnosed with a mental illness would not be the end of the world. Off The Grid News stated, "New mental illnesses identified by the DSM-IV include arrogance, narcissism, above-average creativity, cynicism, and antisocial behavior. In the past, these were called 'personality traits,' but now they're diseases." Off The Grid News explains that it is not unheard of for governments such as the Soviet Union to use mental illness for political repression. "People who didn't accept the beliefs of the Communist Party developed a new type of schizophrenia. They suffered from the delusion of believing communism was wrong. They were isolated, forcefully medicated, and put through repressive 'therapy' to bring them back to sanity." As adults, most of us, even if we resist authority, probably do not need to worry about being wrapped in a straight jacket and thrown into an institution for the insane. But if a person has only one or so of these traits and starts to get labeled as mentally ill with ODD after speaking up for their rights, then we might need to worry the condition could be used as a weapon to silence dissent. Keep it in mind if you are a nonconformist...there is the potential for abuse. | |
I'm feeling like a drama magnet right now.. |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Mon Nov 15, 2010 @ 11:20pm |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Tue Nov 16, 2010 @ 2:05am |
basically anyone who believes in freedom or independence or inviolability of their rights is a danger to society... | |
I'm feeling surly right now.. |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Tue Nov 16, 2010 @ 2:36am |
It is insane but luckily we live in a society where laws can be challenged. But just like Torontonamo have dropped all their war-act charges, they mostly use them to bully people, a good thing a few of us stand up for ourselves. | |
I'm feeling <3 sexi_babe_69 right now.. |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Tue Nov 16, 2010 @ 2:41am |
see that's the thing here - it's not a law, it's a psychiatric diagnosis.. no one has to "pass this" and sure, it can be challenged, but the smart bastards have worded it so that challenging your diagnosis just digs you deeper into a hole, "proving" that you have it. Do or say anything anti-authoritarian and you could be "detained" pending a psychiatric evaluation as you may be a "danger" to yourself or others in the same way a suicidal person or someone who is actually mentally not well off could be.. | |
I'm feeling like a drama magnet right now.. |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Tue Nov 16, 2010 @ 2:08pm |
And locking someone up under a new diagnosis can't be challenged in any way? I thought locking someone up, even for one own good, had to undergo legal proceedings. Oh I'm sure most of those, just like prostitution charges and tickets, go to expedite measures but I'm hoping a new element (diagnosis) to an otherwise reasonable person would warrant caution to a judge. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» xtc_rob replied on Fri Nov 26, 2010 @ 5:14am |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Psykotropik replied on Fri Nov 26, 2010 @ 7:45am |
Originally Posted By DYNV
And locking someone up under a new diagnosis can't be challenged in any way? I thought locking someone up, even for one own good, had to undergo legal proceedings. Oh I'm sure most of those, just like prostitution charges and tickets, go to expedite measures but I'm hoping a new element (diagnosis) to an otherwise reasonable person would warrant caution to a judge. In Canada, at least, there's no way you can go to jail due solely to a mental disorder. Even if a psychiatrist had diagnosed you with, say, pedophilia or psychopathy, they certainly couldn't have you charged with anything just because of how your mind works. And that's definitely a good thing. |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Fri Nov 26, 2010 @ 11:32am |
Yeah, here in Quebec, most mental patients live on the streets. | |
I'm feeling body and soul right now.. |
Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» cvxn replied on Sun Nov 28, 2010 @ 2:58pm |
Originally Posted By PSYKOTROPIK
In Canada, at least, there's no way you can go to jail due solely to a mental disorder. Even if a psychiatrist had diagnosed you with, say, pedophilia or psychopathy, they certainly couldn't have you charged with anything just because of how your mind works. And that's definitely a good thing. indeed, it's if you commit crimes (downloading child porn, killing someone, etc) due to those stuffs that you go to jail. Also, the DSM-IV has its flaws. And, a lot of mental illnesses are about levels. See for example the difference between being shy and social anxiety disorder. Originally Posted By databoy
Yeah, here in Quebec, most mental patients live on the streets. Well, most people living on the streets have disorders, addictions, suffered from trauma, etc... But then, lots of people have mental illnesses and can function more or less normally in society. Get a job and all. Just have to take care of yourself a bit more than other people. :) | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH replied on Sun Nov 28, 2010 @ 3:19pm |
Originally Posted By AERIAL
But then, lots of people have mental illnesses and can function more or less normally in society. Get a job and all. Just have to take care of yourself a bit more than other people. :) W3rd. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JojoBizarre replied on Mon Nov 29, 2010 @ 8:19am |
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