Stereo Burnt Down Again This Morning....
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Wed Sep 2, 2009 @ 10:38am |
 Coolness: 107025 | Originally Posted By MOLOCH
No offence, but if you think the afterhours has ever been about the music and not about the monies, you're srsly in need of a reality check. Dude, you cant paint all the afterhours in Montreal with the same brush. The reason Afterhour clubs have hiphop rooms is for the money. Because they dont make enough $$$ with the house room alone. Stereo had one of the best rooms/sound systems in north America for listening to edm, and the only one to not have a hiphop room. What does that tell you? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ufot replied on Wed Sep 2, 2009 @ 10:40am |
 Coolness: 94010 | Originally Posted By MOLOCH
For a lot of peeps : People that go. Not those who build. I mean you can go to the supermaket to have sex, dosen't make it a hotel. And as long as theses people have leverage, Stereo will not reopen. Here's a little "organized crime" methodology. Step 1 ------ You get the police you own to shut down a place you can't buy/coerce into sharing profits with organization. Step 2 ------ upon reopening, or before, burn the fucking place down to the ground so it can't open, and make the other go bakrupt. Step 3 ------ If step one and two fail. Thenm simply get someone to shoot the motherfucker who insists on reopenning the place in question. Everyone who stands in the way is acceptable casualty. When it gets there, it usually werks, but then the conondrum is that the place is reopened by the dude who went thru step one to three. AND you go and give the guy more monie. all the while whimpering cuz it's not about the music anymoar. My two cents. 2 many movies... are you a writer for C.S.I Miami? Ufot-geez, some people have some funy ass thoughts... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH replied on Wed Sep 2, 2009 @ 10:42am |
 Coolness: 227185 | I'm just saying this is usualy how it goes down.
And I don't mean to be a prick, but I can smell ass-holes a mile away, and after 15 years of going out and seeing how it runs, I could smell a shit operation like a fart in a car. But hey, they are fun places to be, go party and all. Don't get me wrong. I'm just saying it a volative as fuck piece of business, and it's really more about the money moving around than the kids on the dancefloor. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» the_worm replied on Wed Sep 2, 2009 @ 10:44am |
 Coolness: 61965 | this is street biz-ness.
Don't blame hell's there in jail and don't have the control they use to have on the steets. this is probably gang related,Stereo don't want dealers in their club...so they burn the shit down. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Wed Sep 2, 2009 @ 10:46am |
| Coolness: 107025 | Originally Posted By THE_WORM
this is probably gang related,Stereo don't want dealers in their club...so they burn the shit down. You sir are most likely correct. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ufot replied on Wed Sep 2, 2009 @ 10:47am |
| Coolness: 94010 | Originally Posted By MOLOCH
I'm just saying this is usualy how it goes down. And I don't mean to be a prick, but I can smell ass-holes a mile away, and after 15 years of going out and seeing how it runs, I could smell a shit operation like a fart in a car. But hey, they are fun places to be, go party and all. Don't get me wrong. I'm just saying it a volative as fuck piece of business, and it's really more about the money moving around than the kids on the dancefloor. true, but things are never clear cut when it comes to "entertainment" business, you don't have to run an afterhours to end up dealing with shaddy people who may or may not agree with your business plans... this is Montreal after all... as far as I'm concerned, I think this city deserves better clubs then what bullshit is left, seeing stereo fall like this before it's reopenning doesn't mean clubland is over, it just means people will have to wait a bit longer before things pick up in quality, which mark my words, they will... Ufot-shit operations can generate more than just dirty money |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Turtle replied on Wed Sep 2, 2009 @ 10:49am |
 Coolness: 69215 | The scene is Dangerous i do admit, but when it comes down to a community coming together to rebuild a piece of their community regardless of the circumstances it will happen!!! Nick u r right on that one btw!!! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH replied on Wed Sep 2, 2009 @ 10:49am |
| Coolness: 227185 | Originally Posted By UFOT
Ufot-shit operations can generate more than just dirty money QFT . I agree. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Turtle replied on Wed Sep 2, 2009 @ 10:51am |
| Coolness: 69215 | Nick that is true....It is all dirty in the end and dangerous Update » Turtle wrote on Wed Sep 2, 2009 @ 11:30am news is that the inside of Stereo wasn't that Damaged! The lighting and sound system is unharmed! As well as the dance floor, clean up is on the way! Looks optimistic! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ufot replied on Wed Sep 2, 2009 @ 11:28am |
| Coolness: 94010 | I also think that this could have been avoided if the club had tighter security and better video survaillance... at the very least, it may have aided in the investigation... wtv, only a small amount of details have been released, so this is all speculation anyways...
Ufot-investigations can go wrong |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Turtle replied on Wed Sep 2, 2009 @ 11:32am |
| Coolness: 69215 | As i said Clean up is on the way and the main floor wasn't that damaged! I am going down to help out this weekend with the cleanup! But news is as well that there will be volunteers surveillance now 24/7 and paid Surveillance during regular hours... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ufot replied on Wed Sep 2, 2009 @ 1:40pm |
| Coolness: 94010 | Let me know if they need an extra hand this weekend, I have some spare time after my set at "HardCore Till I die" before I broadcast my radio show, I would be willing to come down and lend a hand...
Ufot-together, people can accomplish almost anything |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Wed Sep 2, 2009 @ 1:44pm |
 Coolness: 130630 | Well here's my 2 cents
Most modern day hip hop deals with violence and gangsterism As a result, the kids who listen to that music go out and are violent and act like gangsters They embrace that STYLE and MENTALITY Its not rocket science to understand that if thats what the vibe is about in that TYPE of hip hop which IS the mainstream then you gonna have the violence that comes with it Of course not all hip hop is about violence and gangsterism, but some of it definitly is, and it has NO PLACE in an afterhours Get rid of the hip hop rooms in these afterhours, you get rid of the violence Now, for ravers and clubbers who wanna listen to music thats NOT about killing, violence and all the rest will go out and DANCE, HAVE A GOOD TIME and BE NICE TO PEOPLE cause thats what HOUSE, TECHNO, BREAKS, DNB and every other style of electronic music is about (except the Nazi gabber guys) Thats why RAVES have always been THE MOST non violent events you can find, and nowadays hip hop events are the MOST violent Ravers & clubbers embrace a certain mentality, gangster hip hop kids embrace another Its that simple |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JojoBizarre replied on Wed Sep 2, 2009 @ 1:46pm |
 Coolness: 295885 | Originally Posted By BLISSS
Well here's my 2 cents Most modern day hip hop deals with violence and gangsterism As a result, the kids who listen to that music go out and are violent and act like gangsters They embrace that STYLE and MENTALITY Its not rocket science to understand that if thats what the vibe is about in that TYPE of hip hop which IS the mainstream then you gonna have the violence that comes with it Of course not all hip hop is about violence and gangsterism, but some of it definitly is, and it has NO PLACE in an afterhours Get rid of the hip hop rooms in these afterhours, you get rid of the violence Now, for ravers and clubbers who wanna listen to music thats NOT about killing, violence and all the rest will go out and DANCE, HAVE A GOOD TIME and BE NICE TO PEOPLE cause thats what HOUSE, TECHNO, BREAKS, DNB and every other style of electronic music is about (except the Nazi gabber guys) Thats why RAVES have always been THE MOST non violent events you can find, and nowadays hip hop events are the MOST violent Ravers & clubbers embrace a certain mentality, gangster hip hop kids embrace another Its that simple You are right but hip hop bring a truck load of money to the after hours that have hip hop room. So getting rid of it would mean less revenue. And it's all about the benjamins.. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Wed Sep 2, 2009 @ 1:56pm |
| Coolness: 130630 | There are plenty of ways to make money without having a hip hop room
Those guys don't even spend when they go out, act like douches 24/7 & they never bring ANYTHING positive except bad vibes You know I stopped going to raves regularily when they started bringing hip hop into raves in the 90s. It was around 1996, 1997 that I noticed the CHILL OUT rooms got replaced with HIP HOP rooms What a fucking mistake, I mean personally I don't want to go to a rave and be surrounded by the same assholes I can find anywhere, worrying about weather I'll get stabbed for bumping into the wrong guy, so I just slowly stopped going and started my own clubnights And no one ever got stabbed or beat up in any of the 12 years I've been playing, just good times and memories Music is about vibes, the music you listen to will affect your mood and outlook, its like food but for the soul. Mind what you put in your ears ;) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JEE3.14_agricole replied on Wed Sep 2, 2009 @ 2:23pm |
 Coolness: 108145 | hip hop shows arent violent (at least not the ones i attend)
The roots , Tribe called quest (back in the dayS) , cypress hill and many many more are just about plain old good beats and storytelling in most cases. In the first place thats what hiphop was , storytelling. NEwayz , i agree with your point of view bliss but not fully |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Wed Sep 2, 2009 @ 2:37pm |
| Coolness: 107025 | Last time I saw Cypress Hill live was at lolapaloza many years ago. They where the only hiphop act on the bill. Who did they have on stage with them? 4 goon's sportin black sunglasses and cell phones, arms crossed looking tough. What where they doing on stage? they weren't playing any instruments, they weren't dancing... cus Sonic Youth, Jesus Lizard and even Beck didnt have security. Maybe its a hiphop thing... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Wed Sep 2, 2009 @ 2:51pm |
 Coolness: 87415 | Originally Posted By JEEPEE_AGRICOLE
cypress hill and many many more are just about plain old good beats and storytelling in most cases. In the first place thats what hiphop was , storytelling. haha. Cypress Hill not violent?? I saw them in 1993 in Toronto with House of Pain and Funkdoobiest. great show. all of em are produced by DJ Muggs and each one did a great live show... I was right as close to the stage as you could get. but I gotta say... in the mosh pit where I was, white kids were gettin their ass beat. for real. little white skater dudes were getting the shit kicked out of them by gangstas literally like 5 feet from me. it was pretty scary. but I just focused on the music and had fun and watched my back at the same time. the friends I came to the show with from Hamilton were wayyy too scared to come up with me to the stage. they stayed way at the back of the arena where it was safe. can't say I blame em. point being... I was into Cypress from the get go - like 1992, and I was at their show when they were new, so I know for fact they had a pretty violent message... How I Could Just Kill a Man, Hand on the Pump, Hole in the Head... I love all those songs but they are all about murder and carrying guns for protection. shit their one video was so violent Much Music banned it. but I dont mean to split hairs on you. I can see what you are saying about Tribe and Roots. and Cypress is soft now compared to the old days.. well no wonder, cuz they are older than me, that's for damn sure lol. so now the crowd they cater to will be much more suburban and harmless just for shits and giggles this is the video they banned. I still love it, and it was so ill back when it came out. probably my favourite Cypress track. but if you know this track, you can see that they are hardly about peaceful storytelling ;) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JEE3.14_agricole replied on Wed Sep 2, 2009 @ 2:54pm |
| Coolness: 108145 | hehe true that.. cypress was a bad example i guess ... ;)
i still luv them tho wiked vid , never seen it b4.. i knew the trak tho |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Wed Sep 2, 2009 @ 3:02pm |
| Coolness: 87415 | haha ya. aside from Cypress I totally agree with you.
and yes. great video and a ruff track! |
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