Is Honey Vegan?
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Mon Jul 27, 2009 @ 3:03pm |
 Coolness: 94400 | So I ordered some premium shisha to enjoy with my new roommates, and it never occured to me that honey is an animal product until last night. Premium shisha is made with honey instead of molases for a smoother smoke. Anyways, now the shisha is here and my roommates are vegan, and i dunno if honey is vegan or not...google is unhelpful. Some sites say no, some say yes.
Any thoughts? edit: never mind. Its vegan :(. Ghey. ugh |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PonChalice replied on Mon Jul 27, 2009 @ 4:21pm |
 Coolness: 77160 | honey is not vegen |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DrGonzo replied on Mon Jul 27, 2009 @ 4:22pm |
 Coolness: 266860 | .. how i managed to read 'is honey vagina' when i glanced at the thread, is beyond me. :/ |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo replied on Mon Jul 27, 2009 @ 4:23pm |
 Coolness: 147230 | Originally Posted By DRGONZO
.. how i managed to read 'is honey vagina' when i glanced at the thread, is beyond me. :/ just stop thinking with your cock! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly replied on Mon Jul 27, 2009 @ 4:43pm |
 Coolness: 77615 | Veganism is bad for your health. You're going to wind up being some skinny dude who listens to Tiesto.
And no, honey is not considered vegan because it involves stealing from bees (pfffftttt hahahahah). |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Mon Jul 27, 2009 @ 6:27pm |
 Coolness: 160025 | Originally Posted By LUKEPERIL
Veganism is bad for your health. You're going to wind up being some skinny dude who listens to psy. Fixed |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Termina replied on Mon Jul 27, 2009 @ 7:30pm |
 Coolness: 86995 | Originally Posted By LUKEPERIL
Veganism is bad for your health. You're going to wind up being some skinny dude who listens to Tiesto. And no, honey is not considered vegan because it involves stealing from bees (pfffftttt hahahahah). Originally Posted By kevin_flynn
Fixed Hey, go to hell. lmfao I'm nearly vegan and I'll have you know I hate Tiesto and Psy. XD |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Mon Jul 27, 2009 @ 7:39pm |
| Coolness: 94400 | im not vegan; my roommates are
And anyways, i aleready like both psy and tiesto |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Mon Jul 27, 2009 @ 9:07pm |
 Coolness: 146105 | vagina-ism sounds cooler than veganism |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» pogostik replied on Tue Jul 28, 2009 @ 3:31pm |
 Coolness: 35455 | so u cant smoke it cuz some guy in a costume stole honey from bees? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Tue Jul 28, 2009 @ 4:24pm |
 Coolness: 202130 | I can't think of any reason that raising bees is bad. Bees are good for the environment, in fact we rely on them to pollinate plants.
Bee's are allowed to roam freely and fly around and do bee things, we just build homes for them and take their honey. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» puresexmegs replied on Tue Jul 28, 2009 @ 4:43pm |
 Coolness: 49635 | I dont understand why people dont eat eggs. The best source of protein on earth and the chickens have to poop them out anyways. I thought bees have to polinate and make honey? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Tue Jul 28, 2009 @ 4:46pm |
 Coolness: 167450 | i prefer it the other way around...
find some honeys, then pollinate ;) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn replied on Tue Jul 28, 2009 @ 4:52pm |
 Coolness: 159140 | Originally Posted By BASDINI
vagina-ism sounds cooler than veganism Vaginarianism. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Tue Jul 28, 2009 @ 4:58pm |
| Coolness: 94400 | actually ScottyP the breeding of bees of honey is bad. Remember a couple years ago everyone was asking "Where have all the bees gone"
The answer is that overbreeding bees in farms for honey production was killing them :O. Counter intuitive? A little bit. Farmers were artificially increasing the supply of bees without increasing the supply of flowers and pollen to support them. Which meant less food per bee. So bee's became weaker and were unable to polenate as many flowers because fewer bees had enough food to live properly. And now you know! :) Update » Gamos wrote on Tue Jul 28, 2009 @ 5:05pm AT THE end of February, the orchards of California’s Central Valley are dusted with pink and white blossom, as millions of almond trees make their annual bid for reproduction. The delicate flowers attract pollinators, mostly honeybees, to visit and collect nectar and pollen. By offering fly-through hospitality, the trees win the prize of a brush with a pollen-covered bee and the chance of cross-pollination with another tree. In recent years, however, there has been alarm over possible shortages of honeybees and scary stories of beekeepers finding that 30-50% of their charges have vanished over the winter. It is called colony collapse disorder (CCD), and its cause remains a mystery.
Add to this worries about long-term falls in the populations of other pollinators, such as butterflies and bats, and the result is a growing impression of a threat to nature’s ability to supply enough nectar-loving animals to service mankind’s crops. This year, however, the story has developed a twist. In California the shortage of bees has been replaced by a glut. Bee good to me The annual orgy of sexual reproduction in the Californian almond orchards owes little to the unintended bounty of nature. Francis Ratnieks, a professor of apiculture at Sussex University who has worked on the state’s almond farms, says the crop is so large and intensively grown these days that it has greatly surpassed the region’s inherent ability to supply pollinators. Decades ago, when there were fewer almonds, farmers could rely on pollination just from the beekeepers who live in the Central Valley. Now, they have to import migrant apian labour. Scientific AG, a firm based in Bakersfield, California, helps broker pollination deals between local almond growers and apiarists from across America. Joe Traynor, the pollination broker who founded Scientific AG, says that in the 1960s there were 100,000 acres (40,000 hectares) of groves. Today it is 700,000 acres and the industry claims it supplies 80% of the world’s almonds. In order to meet this pollination demand, more than a third of America’s beehives must be moved to California for the season. Such changes to the industry have been reflected in the prices for bee hives. In 1995 growers could rent a hive for $35. Today, says Mr Traynor, a strong colony would cost $150-200. It is hard to pin down what has been causing honeybees to vanish. “People want it to be genetically modified crops, pollution, mobile-phone masts and pesticides,” says Dr Ratnieks, and it is “almost certainly none of those”. But he adds that such large losses to a population are not unusual in epidemics. One explanation offered by both Dr Ratnieks and Mr Traynor is of a once-rare disease, possibly caused by the Israeli acute paralysis virus (IAPV), sweeping through colonies that have already been weakened by parasites such as Nosema ceranae, a parasitic fungus from Asia. Some have suggested that N. ceranae alone might be sufficient to cause CCD, as the fungus is believed to have been widespread since 2006, when CCD first became a problem. There is also Varroa, a parasitic mite, which has been another problem in bees for some time, and which might also transmit the IAPV. But there is almost certainly a further factor causing stress on the bees—a poor diet. Bee-conomics It is increasingly being recognised that managed bees need food supplements. In some places, a decline in the area of pasture land on which they can forage, the loss of weedy borders and the growth of crop monocultures mean it is hard for bees to find a wide enough range of pollen sources to obtain all their essential amino acids. In extreme cases they may not even find enough basic protein. Writing in Bee Culture this February, Mr Traynor observes that places where crops with low-protein pollens, such as blueberries and sunflowers, are grown are also places where CCD has appeared. The suggestion is that poor nutrition has weakened the bees’ immune systems, making them more vulnerable to viruses and other parasites. Feeding bees supplements, rather than relying on their ability to forage in the wild, costs time and money. Many beekeepers therefore try to avoid it. Anecdote suggests, however, that those who do fork out find their colonies are far more resistant to CCD. This year’s Californian bee glut, then, has been caused by a mixture of rising supply meeting falling demand. The price of almonds dropped by 30% between August and December last year, as people had less money in their pockets. That has caused growers to cut costs, and therefore hire fewer hives. There is also a drought in the region, and many farmers are unlikely to receive enough water to go ahead with the harvest. Meanwhile, the recent high prices for pollination contracts made it look worthwhile fattening bees up with supplements over the winter. That may help explain why there have been fewer colony collapses. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» qwertyu replied on Tue Jul 28, 2009 @ 5:27pm |
| Coolness: 73785 | honey is disgusting. It's insect vomit. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DrGonzo replied on Tue Jul 28, 2009 @ 6:49pm |
| Coolness: 266860 | Originally Posted By LAURENT
It's insect vomit. *drools* |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Tue Jul 28, 2009 @ 6:56pm |
| Coolness: 167450 | *bee eats Dee's drool*
mmmmzz.. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Wed Jul 29, 2009 @ 11:37am |
 Coolness: 132500 | wasnt the only problem with bees , was the aborigenous spicie that werent introduced here on purpose and that are fucking with ours and mutating into something else farmers cant tame the old way ...
oh yea , your update gamos sounds like the newsfeed i had on that. imo veggies are unadmitted arianists. (they think better of themselves than bears, witch eats bees stuff and meat , thus analogous to the arianism main principles.) with delusion of grandeur thinking they are better than their ancestors :D |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» qwertyu replied on Wed Jul 29, 2009 @ 11:52am |
| Coolness: 73785 | i want to farm both bees and buttterflys, bees are awesome cratures |
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