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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Jul 20, 2009 @ 11:25am |
 Coolness: 686275 | Ok, I'm having some trouble with drums.. (well at least I think I am, might sound fine to everyone else..)
The drums sound too centered.. wouldn't be a problem for the kicks, but it's mainly the snares and hats that are driving me nuts.. Everything else in the tune (it's a remix) comes out wider, and listening to it on monitors it really sounds like the drums are coming from one tiny spot right in the center of the sound field.. the snares being the biggest culprit.. I've tried fucking around with reverb and can't get anything that sounds decent, but I may just not be doing it right.. Any ideas? Some other effect to pass them through/put in a send? [ www.mediafire.com ] Update » Screwhead wrote on Mon Jul 20, 2009 @ 11:49am Ok, lol, never mind.. I can't believe how simple that was..
For the first time in ages I forgot to use my 'secret weapon' for making anything phat as all hell; Fruity Blood Overdrive on default settings. I think I may actually finish this today!  |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Mon Jul 20, 2009 @ 12:56pm |
 Coolness: 153690 | for wider stereo effect, without phase cancellation on mono-playing devices, (like clubs) you may want to get a "doubler" with settings like L: 12 ms delay, -3 dB R: 22 ms delay, -6dB
makes your sound still in the middle, but alot wider, and minimal phase cancellation. overdrive wont "wide" a sound =P |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Jul 20, 2009 @ 1:01pm |
| Coolness: 686275 | I'll give that a shot also..
It's the Fruity Blood Overdrive hehe, you should give it a shot.. just default settings, it's like a tube compressor and it fattens the sound.. I'd totally forgotten to put it on the drums for this, it's usually the first thing I put on, usually one on each chanel.. It's one of those 'miracle worker' effects.. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Mon Jul 20, 2009 @ 2:55pm |
 Coolness: 167230 | blood overdrive kicks ass! it's true that it doesn't widen the sound but it gives it such a bigger badder sound.. pseudo-wide.. more like wide-load than wide :P - i put most of my snares through it.
there's an actual 'widener' in Sound-Forge too , but the sound-forge plugins are cpu hogs when used in fruity.. it's a nice touch though. there's also the FL 'sound goodizer' you can pick up.. it works wonders, though it's more like the overdrive in that it doesn't make the sound wider, but bigger and better.. but you don't want to get addicted to using it. i don't even have it myself.. (hmmm, i should install FL8, it might already be in there)... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ApR1zM replied on Mon Jul 20, 2009 @ 5:12pm |
 Coolness: 165485 | hehe yeah the SOUNDGOODIZER is something i was laughing about but whenever i put it on it sounds bigger so i wonder what is it doin really? anyone knows? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Mon Jul 20, 2009 @ 5:21pm |
| Coolness: 167230 | really not sure, but i have a feeling it's a mild overdrive with a compression set to embiggen the sound.. it may also just boost all the frequencies, like a flat EQ +1 ...
(thnx to the Simpsons for the word 'embiggen' :p ) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Mon Jul 20, 2009 @ 7:06pm |
 Coolness: 106800 | Flat EQ + 1 = Gain +1
Dont know the plugin but sounds like compression/limiting to me. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Jul 20, 2009 @ 7:16pm |
| Coolness: 686275 | Originally Posted By APR1ZM
hehe yeah the SOUNDGOODIZER is something i was laughing about but whenever i put it on it sounds bigger so i wonder what is it doin really? anyone knows? It's their take on the BBE Sonic Maximizer (which I recomend the old version of, the new one doesn't really sound that good) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mutante replied on Mon Jul 20, 2009 @ 7:32pm |
 Coolness: 76865 | Originally Posted By DEADFUNK
for wider stereo effect, without phase cancellation on mono-playing devices, (like clubs) you may want to get a "doubler" with settings like L: 12 ms delay, -3 dB R: 22 ms delay, -6dB makes your sound still in the middle, but alot wider, and minimal phase cancellation. overdrive wont "wide" a sound =P good tip |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Jul 20, 2009 @ 7:37pm |
| Coolness: 686275 | hmm that does seem to be working nicely.. I hadn't thought of a doubler! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Tue Jul 21, 2009 @ 7:31am |
| Coolness: 153690 | blood overdrive, it may be the only plug in which comes with FL that i really like, its a distortion, heavily limited, (try it on a synth when your peak meter jumps up and down, it will always stay at the same level with it!)
soundgoodizer is a multi processing effect, it does eq, then multiband compression, then limiting. but there is not enough control over the plugin, so i really dont like it, and compresses too much to put it on synths, id rather just use normal compression and camelphat. the soundgoodizer is made for a "cheap mastering device" i personally dont recommend it! one thing i realised with the blood overdrive, is that if you start putting it on a lot of things, everything else will kind of be lost in the mix, and it you put it on everything, everything will be too distorted (can be good, depend of the style, but be aware that it will sound fruity loops's bloodoverdriveish, which can be really recognizable) so id stick the BO on only 1 or 2 sounds in a track, only the sounds you wanna get the more punch out of.. ex: kick and snare, or lead and bass, or bass and kick, ect but be carefull, its the same thing for a doubler, if you use it too much, your track will sound wide, but there wont be any solid stereo image anymore, everything will be delayed from one side to the other, i personally use it on vocals and lead, most of the time if i need it, otherwise il try a chorus or something. always try to use time-effect (doubler, delay, reverb, ect) on a bus (send) channel, so you can use the same plug-in for more than 1 sound, and you can control the dry/wet more easily. and the bus summing operation will be better if you use busses than if you "insert" time effect on every chanel, and reveb will be more unified, if you use the same plug in for every sound you want reverb on! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Tue Jul 21, 2009 @ 8:58am |
| Coolness: 686275 | Yeah generally that's what I do (with time-effects on a send)
What I really love the Blood Overdrive for when it comes to drums is that I can run it on a send and send all the drums partialy through and it'll pretty much level them all out while making them that much phatter.. it really gets them unified together.. I dunno wtf they did, but it's one of the best distortions.. On default settings (no boost on anything) it's like a really limited tube compressor.. I've almost got the tune ready now.. I just still gotta give the drums some more 'oomph'.. I think I need to double some of the hits and I'll be good to go.. [ www.sendspace.com ] |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo replied on Tue Jul 21, 2009 @ 9:13am |
 Coolness: 147010 | I just listened to the 2 versions you posted, and I find it sounds like it's been put through a little overdrive and a lot of gain :)
The snare still sounds "behind", in the mix... maybe you would like a sharper and more dynamic sound for the snare, with a more punchy attack (I don't know how to do it on a computer, though). The kick could benefit from the same treatment too, although I think it needs it a little less than the snare. There are a lot of layers and effects, which are a little too loud in the mix, in my opinion. And I like this track :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Tue Jul 21, 2009 @ 9:26am |
| Coolness: 686275 | haha man I'm trying to bring the snare down a bit, I find it's too loud/clangy sounding!
I think another layer of drums to accent the main ones is what I need, and maybe have that hooked up to a sidechained compressor so that certain parts make others duck out a little.. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo replied on Tue Jul 21, 2009 @ 9:51am |
| Coolness: 147010 | heh...:)
I listened to it in dynamic headphones on my laptop from work, with just the standard soundcard/chip... maybe you're listening on monitoring speakers or neutral headphones ? (which would be best for the production stage) ...or maybe we don't seek the same sound :P |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Tue Jul 21, 2009 @ 9:54am |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo replied on Tue Jul 21, 2009 @ 10:02am |
| Coolness: 147010 | DAAAAAAH looks like a huge monster :P
VS my Sony MDR-V150 headphones :) 
(yeah, I lose) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Tue Jul 21, 2009 @ 10:09am |
| Coolness: 686275 | hehehe, it IS kinda like a monster. Well, more like The Door!
The Door is all that was and all that will be! The Door is time and space, life and death! The door can see into your mind! The door can see into your soouull!!!!! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo replied on Tue Jul 21, 2009 @ 10:38am |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Tue Jul 21, 2009 @ 11:14am |
| Coolness: 153690 | mrd 150 have no bass whatsoever!
i think its pretty nice, id layer a snappy snare on top of that! (maybe just use the transient of a snappy snare, or something) |
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