En Francais Tabarnak
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn replied on Mon Jun 15, 2009 @ 2:48pm |
Originally Posted By RECOIL
"in quebec, french vs. english is kind of like black vs. white down south... " well French people weren't brought over here as slaves, so considering what actually happened to black people over here, it's really not fair to them to make that analogy. I am not in any way trying to diminish the oppression or persecution the French suffered here at the hands of Anglo-Scot protestants (and since I come from an Irish family and am the first one in my family to be born over here, we had nothing to do with that) but I am just saying it can't be accurately compared to what black people have gone through down south I think what he was referring to with his metaphor is the similarity in the degree of discrimination from one side to the other; not a comparison of afro-americans vs quebecois but rather how today's rednecks treat blacks and vice versa to how anglos and francos treat each other. And the similitude is present. Nevermind the source and who had it tougher: the level of discrimination is the same. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Choda_Bean replied on Mon Jun 15, 2009 @ 3:57pm |
Originally Posted By DRNYARLATHOTEP
I think what he was referring to with his metaphor is the similarity in the degree of discrimination from one side to the other; not a comparison of afro-americans vs quebecois but rather how today's rednecks treat blacks and vice versa to how anglos and francos treat each other. And the similitude is present. Nevermind the source and who had it tougher: the level of discrimination is the same. yea u pretty much nailed it right there... go suck an egg recoil! you facking hengliche! | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Turtle replied on Mon Jun 15, 2009 @ 4:17pm |
Bliss I live in lasalle and ever St Jean and Canada day cops r every where fighting going on and alot of kids walking the streets talking shit, where i live there is a concert so alot of streets are shut down so they walk around get drunk and cause alot of shit! English and French alike | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Mon Jun 15, 2009 @ 4:38pm |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ApR1zM replied on Mon Jun 15, 2009 @ 5:07pm |
le plus drole c'est les souvrainistes qui ressemble plus a des gens du texas ak leur patriotisme de marde! enfaite le patriotisme c dla marde! PAR CONTRE la souvrainete economique seraient tres interessante :) bref bonne st jean :D | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Mon Jun 15, 2009 @ 5:37pm |
Originally Posted By DJ_DIALECT
yea u pretty much nailed it right there... go suck an egg recoil! you facking hengliche! lol lol I am not facking hengliche, is Éireannach mé ;) Originally Posted By drnyarlathotep
I think what he was referring to with his metaphor is the similarity in the degree of discrimination from one side to the other; not a comparison of afro-americans vs quebecois but rather how today's rednecks treat blacks and vice versa to how anglos and francos treat each other. And the similitude is present. Nevermind the source and who had it tougher: the level of discrimination is the same. ok. well even talking right now, present-day. I still don't agree. have you been down south? when I drove around the backwoods of Georgia and South Carolina I saw black people living in pretty grinding poverty. rarely owned a car, had to walk everywhere, living in shacks on the edge of alligator-infested swamps. city life was not much better. a lot of white people down there that I met were very racist indeed. but I can't say any black person down there was anything less than polite and friendly to me. and that's a fact. I thought they would discriminate against me *for sure*, and it would be understandable, but they didn't. so ya. I just don't think it's true what you guys said. I do agree that there is real antipathy here like you say, I just don't think it is the same as what I saw down south, with my own eyes. |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly replied on Mon Jun 15, 2009 @ 5:47pm |
Maudit tabarnak de St. Ciboire que c'est epais de dire que la Quebec est en danger de "perdre" sa couture.
Selon moi c'est une province ou pleins des epais chialent parce qu'ils ont la misère de se faire comprendre quand ils sortent les expressions laides qui supposent d'être le gros bon sens. Les gens qui s'appelent les seperatistes mais qui ont inventé leur même ce que ça veux dire sans rechercher parce qu'ils pensent que les idéales de la dernière géneration, pis leur préjugements. Ça commencé avec un problème d'avoir assez des étudiants dans les écoles français, avec Daniel Johnson. Ses valeurs n'étaient pas si racistes que les seperatistes qui l'ont remplacé avec sa mort. Mais oui, la problème à Québec c'est toujours les autres, les gens qui ne sont pas de "chez nous". Ben voyons, c clair que t'as pas passez une minute de récherches, d'études sur la sujet. Ce n'est pas noir et blanc, c'est un peuple qui sont manipulés depuis longtemps par les politiques coloniales, pis merci à la confusion qui vient de les mots de les Présidents Français et quelques anglophones qui prétendent de representer tous les anglos, on est rendu là, qu'il y a encore les gens qui ne comprennent pas que PAS TOUT LA MONDE PEUT PARLER PLUS QU'UN LANGUE. Not all brains can grasp the intricacies of language. I happen to be able to speak four languages but I don't lord it over those who grapple with one. And I certainly don't feel that if we are to celebrate "local" culture anywhere that you have to swallow whole all the bullshit programmed culture that they stick on these bills. The idea that Quebec has that somehow immigration is invasion is backward and wrong. Non-francophones have done a lot of things here, and many of them are still not "anglos" even if they speak English. This shit has to stop, it's disgusting how people think they have a right to impose culture on people who are obviously already accepting enough to throw themselves into environments where they are minorities. If it's really about local culture at all costs, why don't we do a fucking St. Jean with Normand L'Amour, Madness Reign, and Phillipe Lalanne? That would be awesome. But fuck this radio-fed culture garbage. Quétaine est fun pour déconner, mais dit moi pas que tu veux que tlm écoute des Kiwis et des Hommes pis mets toujours les disques de Éric Lapointe et Patrick Bruel, avec les commentaires de Chantal Lacroix. Il y a une bonne monde ici qui accepte l'étranger. Gâche le pas avec ton ignorance. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn replied on Mon Jun 15, 2009 @ 6:14pm |
Originally Posted By RECOIL
a lot of white people down there that I met were very racist indeed. but I can't say any black person down there was anything less than polite and friendly to me. and that's a fact. I thought they would discriminate against me *for sure*, and it would be understandable, but they didn't. Lived in North Florida. Stayed in both Atlanta and Eufaula, Alabama and I saw both sides being racist. You're lucky, is all. I saw white people living in poverty, in trailers with welfare, as much as afro-americans. And both hated each other. Trailer parks with whites only and vice-versa. It's all about where you are, Recoil. If you're in downtown Montreal, then sure, anglos and francos pay each other a hell of a lot more respect than people in St-fin-fond-du-Quebec will give people from Hull and vice-versa. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Mon Jun 15, 2009 @ 6:22pm |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Choda_Bean replied on Mon Jun 15, 2009 @ 6:31pm |
Originally Posted By RECOIL
I still don't agree. have you been down south? when I drove around the backwoods of Georgia and South Carolina I saw black people living in pretty grinding poverty. rarely owned a car, had to walk everywhere, living in shacks on the edge of alligator-infested swamps. city life was not much better. I just don't think it is the same as what I saw down south, with my own eyes. 1. yes i've been down south, thus the example. 2. i just think you're getting too much into detail here, and missing the point. im just relating racial barriers, with language ones... | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Mon Jun 15, 2009 @ 8:54pm |
Originally Posted By RECOIL
a lot of white people down there that I met were very racist indeed. but I can't say any black person down there was anything less than polite and friendly to me. and that's a fact. I thought they would discriminate against me *for sure*, and it would be understandable, but they didn't. no offense but black people in the states can be just as racist as some white people if the people you met were cool with you its probably because you were cool with them | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Mon Jun 15, 2009 @ 9:49pm |
Originally Posted By DRNYARLATHOTEP
Lived in North Florida. Stayed in both Atlanta and Eufaula, Alabama and I saw both sides being racist. You're lucky, is all. I saw white people living in poverty, in trailers with welfare, as much as afro-americans. And both hated each other. Trailer parks with whites only and vice-versa. It's all about where you are, Recoil. If you're in downtown Montreal, then sure, anglos and francos pay each other a hell of a lot more respect than people in St-fin-fond-du-Quebec will give people from Hull and vice-versa. ya. I see your analogy and can see what you are saying, now. I really don't know Quebec well, so I was not aware it was that bad. and I guess I was lucky down south, for sure. though I never experienced it down there, I certainly have in Hamilton and Toronto many times, having had some girlfriends who were from Jamaica, Guyana and Trinidad. Some Jamaican guys I would run in to were not exactly happy to see me dating "their women" (as one charming stranger told me one day). In fact they were sometimes very aggressive towards us. and white people too, would sometimes yell at us when they drove by. I couldn't believe it, but that's how it was. however I also know lots of Jamaican people - like my one girl's family for example - who were so cool and friendly and didn't have a problem with it at all. so really anywhere you go, no matter what skin colour or background, there will be people who perpetuate that shit, and people who rise above it. like Dialect said, it has a lot to do with what their parents taught em. unfortunately some peoples' parents are really ignorant. Originally Posted By dj_dialect
1. yes i've been down south, thus the example. 2. i just think you're getting too much into detail here, and missing the point. im just relating racial barriers, with language ones... ya man I can see that now. agreed. blop! |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Mon Jun 15, 2009 @ 10:29pm |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» eLDee replied on Mon Jun 15, 2009 @ 10:44pm |
c'est ironique que le mot Québec n'est meme pas francais...
mais Algoquin. touché! | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn replied on Mon Jun 15, 2009 @ 11:39pm |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Tue Jun 16, 2009 @ 1:36am |
Originally Posted By BLISSS
if the people you met were cool with you its probably because you were cool with them I'm a pretty cool glass of water =) |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Tue Jun 16, 2009 @ 10:32am |
Originally Posted By ELDEE
c'est ironique que le mot Québec n'est meme pas francais... mais Algoquin. touché! Ouin, comme la majorité des noms de villes ici qui ne commence pas par "Saint". :) | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PonChalice replied on Tue Jun 16, 2009 @ 10:42am |
... en parlant de saint, j'ai lu en chek par que les separatistes son full chochonnes! | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf replied on Tue Jun 16, 2009 @ 10:44am |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Lady_A replied on Tue Jun 16, 2009 @ 12:51pm |
quoi, host-one-i-dont-speak-french-et-toé-non-plus!!! est pas venu encore vous chier dessus dans ce thread?
C'est quand la fête nationale de l'Ontario en passant? ça existe? | |
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