Reason 3 And 4 Under The Same Hood
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» E73V3N replied on Mon Jun 1, 2009 @ 3:34pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Mon Jun 1, 2009 @ 3:35pm |
 Coolness: 132295 | hope yall can reap what you sow |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Mon Jun 1, 2009 @ 4:02pm |
 Coolness: 201925 | I would just use reason 4, the thor is the only reason synth that compares to better VST's or even logic audio's built in synths (it comes with about 10 of them) and the piano roll/arrange is more like the real DAW programs like logic and cubase and has proper graphs for automation and not the weirdo 'painting' graph that doesn't use points in the older versions.
The only problem is reason 4 needs a lot of processing power compared to the older versions, but so would any other program with beefier synths. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Mon Jun 1, 2009 @ 4:08pm |
| Coolness: 132295 | flowers are over there , in an other thread.
i hate reason 4 , i prefer reason 3. except for controller maping . now who cares about that , you have your usage , other ppl have their , this is for ppl who has BOTH OF THEM RUNNING IN THE SAME COMPUTER AT THE SAME TIME. failiure result in ban. EXAMPLE OF ACCEPTED HALF ASS ANSWER : .INI file virtualization Windows NT kernels support redirection of INI file-related APIs into a virtual file in a Registry location such as HKEY_CURRENT_USER using a feature called "InifileMapping".[20] This functionality was introduced to allow legacy applications written for 16-bit versions of Windows to be able to run under Windows NT platforms on which the System folder is no longer considered an appropriate location for user-specific data or configuration. Non-compliant 32-bit applications can also be redirected in this manner, even though the feature was originally intended for 16-bit applications. oOoOOoOOOOOOoooOOoOooOoo so snapshot of these two instance (reason 3 & reason 4) registry could hopefully workout. OoOoOoOoOOooOoOooOOooOOo im testing it right now. im leaving your idiots to IDA land. IM GIVING THIS A SECOND CHANCE. NO MORE NO LESS. YALL UNBAN FOR NOW. THOU THE BLADE DANGLES. Update » cutterhead wrote on Mon Jun 1, 2009 @ 4:27pm im starting to think rw ppl cant read unless theirs a line of k at the end of the tunnel.
ive unban everyone , shows you how much i think this has been turned into a joke more than a colaboration to help ppl that use or what to use this format, and i know a lot. like i said i hope ppl can reap what they sow , cause you seen google nowadays. its almost impossible to get the properinfo when its that properinfo you need. i have read nuckear silo plans etccc, satellite communication whitepapers. but when it comes to computer. there are so many twits that just want to add their grain of salt make the shit what it is today. Update » cutterhead wrote on Mon Jun 1, 2009 @ 4:43pm 
there is enough of that attitude all around google , if i can stop you here then so i will : you want that much to speak of reason , start a thread. --------------------------------------------------------- MEANWHILE --------------------------------------------------------- installed reason 3 in %programfiles%/propellerhead/reason3 installed reason 4 in %programfiles%/propellerhead/reason4 now . as you all know , if you install one then the other then try to run the first one , you will be promped to input your key again . this will have for effect , that you will need to have the cd/dvd at hand , and a cd/dvd drive , witch on certain laptops are absent (specially ultraportables , like mine) , if thats the case having the virtual form of the cd/dvds will help a lot in not scratching them out of their layers in two jam session. now . this works so far ( since i installed them without the autorun , with permitted me to install both of them on the same system - launching autorun will ask you to remove the old version) now , its all going well, except id like to save that 2gb and a half out of my hd, since its only a seurity procedure from propellerhead to prevent you to use your propriety as a normal program should. ppl here got a workaround got this "sound bank" dillemma ? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Mon Jun 1, 2009 @ 5:15pm |
 Coolness: 167245 | i have an idea/theory, though it might be stupid and not work at all - and you probably thought of it already, but i'll throw it your way anyway:
if the problem is some sort of bizarre conflict in your reg 'cause of having both versions installed, maybe you could create a small partition drive, install R3 in there, then install R4 in the main drive. if i'm not totally stupid, R3 should still run from the partition drive, leaving the two separated enough for them not to recognize eachother as being on the same system; therefore, R3 wouldn't ask you for the keycode when you open it... (the idea bring that if they are on different 'drives' the reg shit shouldn't conflict, shouldn't create a rollback - though i'm no expert in registry stuff, so i may be way off base) what do you think? --> 1)could work, 2)is too much of a pain in the ass to try, or 3) i can haz fail? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Mon Jun 1, 2009 @ 5:23pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Mon Jun 1, 2009 @ 5:26pm |
| Coolness: 132295 | no . i dont like this concept , since the changes are made to a virtual .ini file in the registry.
puting the installed program on a different partition is not really different that that partition where i have a "virtual double layer dvd" . while still having both program files / reason 3 & 4 actually worked out pretty good. i just want to dump that "virtual double layer dvd" for good since its installed in my program files anyways. the solution of this is exactly how ppl crack program. registry / state monitoring will spit the anwser to me via my IDA . like i said , i would be surprised even if ppl got where am at , since the autorun ask you to remove the program r3 when you insert r4 dvd in. i bypassed this by " exploring " the disk and launching the install manualy. so there must be a handfull of ppl doing this ( as i know about 2 maybe 3 other ppl that has the setup i has now). so im kinda scooting this one up for the lack of google this one deserve. i thought of making registry state backup . but the problem is that registry creates a checksum. reason key (orkester & factory sound bank) are aware of this and will cross check them to see if the state corresponds. so a complete registry copy will fail. but a narrow down registry key revert would probably work , else a fork would... *ida'ing right now* |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Mon Jun 1, 2009 @ 5:26pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Mon Jun 1, 2009 @ 5:29pm |
| Coolness: 132295 | nice dot btw.
na , i mean to edit , but since that las DOT was so important ... with what i understand you saying , i dont want to have two windows (say xp / vista) one running r3 while the other r4. its a all in one os hack |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Mon Jun 1, 2009 @ 5:30pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Mon Jun 1, 2009 @ 5:30pm |
| Coolness: 167245 | ah, ok. well, that was my only idea.. sorry i couldn't help... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Mon Jun 1, 2009 @ 5:30pm |
| Coolness: 132295 | rebooting would take as much time as reinserting the key , and an other os (vista) would take more space than the iso alone |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Mon Jun 1, 2009 @ 5:33pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Mon Jun 1, 2009 @ 5:35pm |
 Coolness: 159820 | This thread is as fun as a colonoscopy. I didn't read why you want both versions running on the same machine, I guess you have your Reasons.
( that joke was as funny as a colonoscopy in a third-world country hospital ) Good luck with that Cutter. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Mon Jun 1, 2009 @ 5:37pm |
| Coolness: 132295 | thanks v2. im shure dynv inspired the colonoscopy joke based on his face. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Jun 1, 2009 @ 5:38pm |
 Coolness: 686290 | all I can figgure is run some third program like cubase and rewire both of them into it? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Mon Jun 1, 2009 @ 5:38pm |
| Coolness: 159820 | I'm afraid not, no. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Mon Jun 1, 2009 @ 5:40pm |
| Coolness: 167245 | well, i was thinking you could run R3 from the partition drive in whatever OS you're using w/out having to reboot.. it works that way, right?
i was remembering having Rebirth (haha) on my old old 'puter, and it was on a partition, but i still ran from my OS, even though i was accessing it from another drive. it would be like separating R3 from the rest without using a different OS (like it would be in quarantine on the other drive).. maybe it just doesn't work that way? like you said: "puting the installed program on a different partition is not really different that that partition where i have a "virtual double layer dvd" . while still having both program files / reason 3 & 4 actually worked out pretty good." so maybe what i'm saying won't change anything. or maybe you just can't run a program from a partition w/out rebooting? i thought you could... (?) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Mon Jun 1, 2009 @ 5:41pm |
| Coolness: 159820 | Just get Impulse Tracker, problem solved. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Mon Jun 1, 2009 @ 5:41pm |
| Coolness: 132295 | Originally Posted By SCREWHEAD
all I can figgure is run some third program like cubase and rewire both of them into it? no not like that at all : reason 4 and reason 3 CAN'T be run at the exact same time. its one or the other , and as soon as you switch version it needs to recheck the orkester & factory sound bank (ie insert cd) so rewiring them both in cubase is way later than what im dealing right now. at worse i wouldnt mind skiping the rewire engine for one or the other. Update » cutterhead wrote on Mon Jun 1, 2009 @ 5:44pm NA > i am already lunching them from two different location
%programfiles%/reason3 %programfiles%/reason4 acts exactly like using them in two different partition but without. the problem is that they (r3 and r4) are aware of them states and if an other is present. from changes made in the registry , hense the virtual ini hack Update » cutterhead wrote on Mon Jun 1, 2009 @ 6:05pm for ppl who didnt know what i was saying when i said IDA :
The Interactive Disassembler, more commonly known as simply IDA, is a commercial disassembler widely used for reverse engineering. It supports a variety of executable formats for different processors and operating systems. It also can be used as a debugger for Windows PE, Mac OS X Mach-O, and Linux ELF executables. Although IDA performs a large degree of automatic code analysis to a certain extent, leveraging cross-references between code sections, knowledge of parameters of API calls, and other information, it is focused on being interactive. A typical IDA user will begin with an automatically generated disassembly listing and then rename, annotate, or otherwise add information to the listing, until it becomes clear what it does, creating an effective reverse-engineering tool. |
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