Ooooohhhh Shit. Re: Buring Ppl Alive?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» GODISDEAD_ replied on Tue Apr 21, 2009 @ 2:40pm |
Originally Posted By E73V3N
le gars qui reste tranquilement assis pendant qu'il brule fait vraiment pitier... exactly what I was thinking. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» pogostik replied on Tue Apr 21, 2009 @ 2:43pm |
its important for these videos to be spread because we can see the evil in the world and keep the good fight going. i was confused as to why those being burned werent screaming or trying to run from the fire constantly i dunno... when a flame touches my skin i jump from the pain... maybe they were already too far gone.... its a very mind numbing video. imagine witnessing it in person. its really heartbreaking. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Tue Apr 21, 2009 @ 3:00pm |
Originally Posted By EARTHSLAYER
its important for these videos to be spread because we can see the evil in the world and keep the good fight going. that was perfectly put out ! I haven't watched the video as the title was explicit. I'm so terrified of what a power like Israel is doing to the Gazans (Palestinians). I'm ashamed to be a citizen of a country mostly enslaved to the US which support a country like Israel and support any organization oppressing the innocents (people that just want to live peacefully without oppressing). In fact by my inaction supporting the oppression, I'm an oppressor and I'm ashamed of it, deeply. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Anarkoid replied on Tue Apr 21, 2009 @ 8:02pm |
Originally Posted By DYNV
that was perfectly put out ! I haven't watched the video as the title was explicit. I'm so terrified of what a power like Israel is doing to the Gazans (Palestinians). I'm ashamed to be a citizen of a country mostly enslaved to the US which support a country like Israel and support any organization oppressing the innocents (people that just want to live peacefully without oppressing). In fact by my inaction supporting the oppression, I'm an oppressor and I'm ashamed of it, deeply. hey, I heard Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was looking for some friends... Seriously, I think that an affirmation like that shows either a serious one-sided view of a complex problem. Especially when you see the human right records of many of the country criticizing Israel. however this is not to say that Israel does not share a good part of the blame by occupying and controlling land that were taken after 1967 (when Egypt, Syria and Jordan lead by Nasser, tried to wipe Israel from the map) I think that this problems will never be solved as long as people refuse to accept that blames are to be shared and one sided views like yours cause seriously more harm than good. My opinion is that Israel should dismantle the post 67 colonies and give back the land that were taken from the Arabs during the Six-Day War. The Palestinian on the other hand should stop the bombing (with bombs and rockets) of the Israeli cities. No one can ask the Israelis not to react to bombs and rockets on their cities, no more than we can ask the Palestinian to live under a constant control of an occupying troupes surrounded by Jewish colonies. my two cents... About the video...this is a seriously fucked-up video, which i was unable (and unwilling ) to watch till the end. Yet even if I personally don't want to watch it I think it should be shown so that people do understand some of the atrocities that are committed in the world today. Hatred begets hatred, murder begets murder...please give peace a chance!!! | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Tue Apr 21, 2009 @ 10:30pm |
Originally Posted By ANARKOID
hey, I heard Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was looking for some friends... Seriously, I think that an affirmation like that shows either a serious one-sided view of a complex problem. Especially when you see the human right records of many of the country criticizing Israel. however this is not to say that Israel does not share a good part of the blame by occupying and controlling land that were taken after 1967 (when Egypt, Syria and Jordan lead by Nasser, tried to wipe Israel from the map) I think that this problems will never be solved as long as people refuse to accept that blames are to be shared and one sided views like yours cause seriously more harm than good. My opinion is that Israel should dismantle the post 67 colonies and give back the land that were taken from the Arabs during the Six-Day War. The Palestinian on the other hand should stop the bombing (with bombs and rockets) of the Israeli cities. No one can ask the Israelis not to react to bombs and rockets on their cities, no more than we can ask the Palestinian to live under a constant control of an occupying troupes surrounded by Jewish colonies. my two cents... [ en.wikipedia.org ] the "principal architect" of the 9/11 attacks, stemmed "not from his experiences there as a student, but rather from his violent disagreement with U.S. foreign policy favoring Israel". do you really think terrorists are evil by nature ? that there's no real motivation for such action ? being humiliated through countless blockades per day in your own country feeling imprisoned ? your life and death ambulance ride being detoured all around the region or completely blocked resulting in you dying ok (they could've searched the ambulance and tell them the risk they were facing) ? that their miserable condition imposed by a foreign nation doesn't foster this unstoppable crazy campaign called terrorism ? [ en.wikipedia.org ] I'm sure the Palestinian "terrorists" (what a stupid term !) aka soldiers would much prefer engaging Israelis soldiers if it wasn't for the fact that they don't have any chance at all on the opposite of Afghanistan soldiers where they DO engage in traditional warfare against the "alliance" because both sides have chances. I have much much more arguments but I don't have hours to find them again and expose them. one sided ? one side of the battle has unequivocal support from the most powerful nation on earth, when it's wrong they do PR to support Isreal. anyway I won't bash Israel it's not my intention. in fact, I had civilized conversations with Israelis. I don't think their soldiers should be blamed, their government is undoubtedly brainwashing them - I'm talking about soldiers here, not all citizens - that all Palestinians are evil by nature and that Islam do this and that (and other religions don't ?!?). what it really boils down to is : my money is forced from my pockets by taxes (which I don't mind for most of it), then socio-economic situation forces Canada to support US, then some unknown factor to me (which could partly be blamed to the imposing Israel lobby in US) forces US to support Israel, then Israel uses much more power than it needs to to defend itself (nothing resembling US there NO) - of course after putting unacceptable pressure on it's occupied people which is never mentioned on the news, therefore I pay to crush poor people to dirt and having at least half its attacked deaths from innocents (how many times what Israel endured ?). unless this money chain can be seriously argued or that Palestinians are evil, not responding humanely to the enormous pressures, lies and shame Israel bring them, I will hesitate before stating my country of origin and will undoubtedly be ashamed of its actions. I think this map clearly show US influence : [ en.wikipedia.org ] I hope this petty argument isn't though but just in case : I had some friendship with Jewish people and my spiritual leader is (or was? but I think is) Jewish. Update » DynV wrote on Tue Apr 21, 2009 @ 10:57pm What I wish is that Canada goes from blue to green (not orange or red, although I'm all for it) on the previous map [ en.wikipedia.org ] International reaction to the 2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Anarkoid replied on Tue Apr 21, 2009 @ 11:46pm |
Sorry, if I don't really agree with your sources, but even when you take the map [ en.wikipedia.org ] you can see whatever you want since I see very few Muslim countries that condemned Hamas or endorsed the Israeli position, making them as much biased as the countries that ONLY supported Israel.
This only demonstrate what I said about people having a one sided view and the sectarianism that comes from Religions. You see, unlike you, I think they are BOTH responsible of the problems in Israel and Palestine, I unlike you am not trying to take side but to stay objective. I really hope that you can see that. About Canadian politic, I would tend to agree with you, that we need greener policies except that I just cannot stand Elizabeth May, since she is too close to the liberals and the liberals are the last people I would ever vote for since they are by far the most corrupt politician we ever had, way more than any other party ever was(even the Conservative which I agree have pretty bad environmental policies). I just hope the Green Party can find a new leader and distance themselves from the Liberal, if they do that they will almost certainly get my vote. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» FRANKB replied on Tue Apr 21, 2009 @ 11:56pm |
Originally Posted By V.2.0.MINUS.1
Why shouldn't we post this here, Lynzyn ? Should we keep our heads firmly planted deep in the earth and avoid everything negative going on in this world ? Fucked up and frankly downright evil shit happens on a daily basis, depressed husbands murdering their families, high school killings, people being tortured in asian prisons, 13 year old coked up children in Africa with AK-47 killing each other for diamonds so many innocent people dying bullshit middle-eastern holy wars. Should we not acknowledge any of this ? Should we just watch reality shows, eat McDonalds, listen to our iPods, hear no evil, see no evil and continue living in our fairy make-believe world where nothing bad happens to anyone ? Dunno about you but as depressing as this is, you need stuff like that to see all the good people can do in return. hey if you wanna aknowledge this shit go live in africa or asia or some shit | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Turtle replied on Wed Apr 22, 2009 @ 8:52am |
thank u ^^^^^^^ Evil is all over why should we acknowledge it for, rights for humanity try to change things but in those countries the government doesn't seem to want to admit that this is going on then some peeps that try to change either get killed for it or tortured or whatever else...
And then the circle starts all over again...It is very sad and hard to understand why this still goes on but that's why! I for one don't wnat to see it over and over again.....My 2 cents... | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» karma.millie replied on Wed Apr 22, 2009 @ 9:05am |
Its crazy how humans are capable of beautiful and amazing things but omg some have juste some ridiculous beliefs that push them in doing that -_- | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Wed Apr 22, 2009 @ 10:48am |
Originally Posted By KARMA.MILLIE
Its crazy how humans are capable of beautiful and amazing things but omg some have juste some ridiculous beliefs that push them in doing that -_- Don't you want to reach Nirvana ? Isn't that some ridiculous belief ? | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Wed Apr 22, 2009 @ 11:51am |
No see, that's what I'm saying. WE think it's wrong because according to OUR North-American upbringing and standards but what if this is how some Africans have been dealing with witchcraft for centuries ?
It looks archaic to you because our society has grown past such violence but other societies have not. What I'm saying is maybe the guy burning is not moving because he accepts what's happening to him since THAT'S HOW THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN DOING IT. Crucifixion is gruesome and cruel but it still happens yearly in the Philippines, come Easter. There is a lot of weird and sick things out there that our western minds have trouble wrapping our brains around but we shouldn't discredit or worse, impose ours instead 'cause WE are uncomfortable with the idea. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» karma.millie replied on Wed Apr 22, 2009 @ 12:07pm |
Originally Posted By DYNV
Don't you want to reach Nirvana ? Isn't that some ridiculous belief ? Of course I want to reach Nirvana and it's O_O to see that, and for me it's a ridiculous belief but that's me and that's the values that my family gave me but in their country or community it's normal Update » karma.millie wrote on Wed Apr 22, 2009 @ 12:08pm And V.2.0.minus.1 I just totally agree with what ur saying | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Wed Apr 22, 2009 @ 3:04pm |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Wed Apr 22, 2009 @ 3:09pm |
yeah, i cant see anything either; the video is down. what was it a video of? | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Wed Apr 22, 2009 @ 3:12pm |
well, the thread is called: "OOOOOhhhh shit. RE: buring ppl alive?"
...so i assume it has something to do with Edgar Allen Poe. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Shindy replied on Wed Apr 22, 2009 @ 3:22pm |
It was a group of people burning other people alive and beating the crap out of them. (really :S) | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Wed Apr 22, 2009 @ 11:17pm |
Originally Posted By ANARKOID
hey, I heard Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was looking for some friends... Seriously, I think that an affirmation like that shows either a serious one-sided view of a complex problem. Especially when you see the human right records of many of the country criticizing Israel. however this is not to say that Israel does not share a good part of the blame by occupying and controlling land that were taken after 1967 (when Egypt, Syria and Jordan lead by Nasser, tried to wipe Israel from the map) I think that this problems will never be solved as long as people refuse to accept that blames are to be shared and one sided views like yours cause seriously more harm than good. My opinion is that Israel should dismantle the post 67 colonies and give back the land that were taken from the Arabs during the Six-Day War. The Palestinian on the other hand should stop the bombing (with bombs and rockets) of the Israeli cities. No one can ask the Israelis not to react to bombs and rockets on their cities, no more than we can ask the Palestinian to live under a constant control of an occupying troupes surrounded by Jewish colonies. my two cents... About the video...this is a seriously fucked-up video, which i was unable (and unwilling ) to watch till the end. Yet even if I personally don't want to watch it I think it should be shown so that people do understand some of the atrocities that are committed in the world today. Hatred begets hatred, murder begets murder...please give peace a chance!!! I agree people have to try not to be biased. i find these anti-semitic comments made by Iran's leader despicable. I think Palestinian rockets are totally wrong, but I also think the occupation is very wrong, and the Palestinians are like David VS the Goliath of US and Israel military. there are plenty of right-wing Israelis who would happily see Iran wiped off the map, so it is a double-edged sword it seems kind of strange to me that Palestinians can be brutalized and murdered in a place where they have lived for hundreds of years.. by soldiers who recently immigrated a couple years ago from Russia or some place. that just seems very wrong to me. I think it is great for people to have a homeland, but the ethnic cleansing of the Arabs who were already there is terrible. they must try to live in harmony lots of Arabs and Jewish people get along there and are great neighbours - but it is the right-wing extremists - on all sides - who are the enemies of peace I have lots of Jewish friends, but I have to say some of my Russian Jewish friends - who moved from Russia to Israel, and then to Canada - have *appallingly* racist views towards Arabs and Palestinians. I remember my friend was happy when Iraq was illegally invaded. when their museum in Baghdad was being looted of all the Mesopotamian artifacts he actually thought that was funny. It got to the point where I just never brought up politics with him - because I found his views on those matters too offensive - so I just avoided talking about politics at all I don't believe right-wing Israelis want peace at all. these are the same people who get their kids to sign bombs that are going to be dropped on Palestinian villages. they are JUST as bad as the Palestinian extremists, and just as fanatical. Israelis of all people should understand what it means to be oppressed the brutality of the soldiers and of right-wing Israelis reminds me of the Loyalist Protestants in Northern Ireland. extremely racist, bigoted fanatics who hate and fear the people they have been oppressing. In both those places, when the right-wing extremists hear about their soldiers killing civlians, they celebrate. indeed, the creation of Northern Ireland and the Balfour Declaration were both drawn up by the same post-war British goverment in 1919 ... this is why Protestant Loyalists often fly Israeli flags in their communities in Northern Ireland, and why the Irish Catholics and the Palestinians show solidarity and militant support for one another. note - I do not condone the PLO or IRA - I feel non-violence is the way - but I do firmly believe that oppressed peoples should show solidarity for one another, and have the moral right to resist imperialism and fascism on their soil IRA - PLO sniper connection -> [ www.telegraph.co.uk ] recently there have been Israeli soldiers who now are telling their story of what they have seen their fellow soldiers doing in the occupied territory and it disgusted them. soldiers kick in doors and rob people of their valuables whenever they feel like it. there are now also disturbing allegations of them deliberately targeting civilians during the last offensive likewise in Northern Ireland, a member of the feared S.A.S. (the equivalent of US navy Seals) resigned and wrote a book about what the British government was ordering him to do in N. Ireland. they would pose as Irish civilians and randomly shoot Catholic men and women to disrupt the peace process. the British government tried to sue him for libel and block the book's publication, but a judge ruled that his account of these civilian murders was truthful. like I sad, there are good people on both sides and those are the people my heart goes out to. but I firmly believe the people in charge of Israel's military have no desire for peace whatsoever, and regard the Palestinians as subhuman. they are no better than any Arab terrorist. watch this video - - the action and words of these IDF soldiers sicken me. the Israeli government tried to block the video being aired. why? because it shows what their soldiers are actually doing to innocent civilians. this sort of brutality just breeds extremism, terrorists and freedom fighters. and it becomes a never-ending cycle |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Wed Apr 22, 2009 @ 11:37pm |
interesting for the least | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Count_Bandit replied on Thu Apr 23, 2009 @ 11:20am |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Thu Apr 23, 2009 @ 12:28pm |
How is a man burning to death any worse than a whole family being crushed under the weight of their house, bombed by rockets? Or being shot in the gut amd kicked in the face by a u.s. freedom fighter?
We should all thank our lucky stars that we are thousands of miles away from this shit. And pray to never have to go through such an excruciating death. ...And not shoot the mesenger cus we cant deal with the message. Cus nothing good will ever be done about it if we keep our heads comfortably tucked in the sand. | |
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