Quebec Haters...
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Sun Apr 5, 2009 @ 8:00pm |
 Coolness: 109730 | Neoform, you were quick to choose the subject that was endearing to you (job opportunities), how about this one ?
Originally Posted By DYNV
What would Ontarians do if a region had the reversed problem, it was a francophone region in a unilingual English province and anglophone couldn't get proper English service ? I think the government would step in quite quickly and take over and fix this firing every public servant that didn't want to comply with the provincial laws and impose REAL fines driving them to bankruptcy if they were stubborn. BTW, not even 10% of my professional experience required me to speak English, all others I'm very happy to only use French. So you're tactful welcoming is quite useless. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sun Apr 5, 2009 @ 8:09pm |
 Coolness: 340590 | Originally Posted By DYNV
Neoform, you were quick to choose the subject that was endearing to you (job opportunities), how about this one ? BTW, not even 10% of my professional experience required me to speak English, all others I'm very happy to only use French. So you're tactful welcoming is quite useless. What if gravity was a push and not a pull? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JojoBizarre replied on Sun Apr 5, 2009 @ 8:20pm |
 Coolness: 295900 | Originally Posted By DRNYARLATHOTEP
Anyway, j'adore le fait qu'ils utilisent GameBuzz comme example. Le magasin "survit" pas de sa vente de jeux mais plutot de sa vente de vieux classiques overpricés (tsé genre Dragon Warrior 4 pour 300$ ou Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance pour 200$) et de figurines d'anime. et de vente de jeu usagé, avec un profit de genre 500% |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sun Apr 5, 2009 @ 8:26pm |
 Coolness: 202150 | People in Quebec are better off knowing french, but if you can manage to get by without it... then who cares?
You will just have trouble functioning anywhere outside of the Montreal area in Quebec. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sun Apr 5, 2009 @ 8:38pm |
| Coolness: 340590 | Originally Posted By SCOTTYP
People in Quebec are better off knowing french, but if you can manage to get by without it... then who cares? You will just have trouble functioning anywhere outside of the Montreal area in Quebec. No, that's unacceptable, choosing is not your right, instead, you must speak french, because you're in Quebec. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Sun Apr 5, 2009 @ 8:42pm |
 Coolness: 87430 | this reminds me - I really really really really really need to learn French ASAP.
I have been here since late 2007 so it is embarassing that I havent learned yet. tomorrow I have to sign up somewhere. can anyone direct me to some free courses? Ive heard the government offers this but not sure where to go I fully think people who live in Quebec should know how to speak French. however sometimes people take it too far. I remember coming to visit my older sister who lived in the old part of Quebec City back in the 80s - I was around 13. I came from the bus station and was trying to find her street at night and it was really bad snowstorm I knew I was very close but I was lost - so I see this woman shovelling snow and ask her if she knows where the street is. she barely even looked at me and said - je ne parle pas Anglais - turned out the street was literally right around the corner. she knew what the street was and where to go, she just chose not to help me because I spoke English. who the fuck doesnt help a kid asking for simple directions? I was just a young pup - i didnt really know about the politics here. it was Christmas holidays too nasty bitch i have had similar unpleasant encounters where bus drivers have refused to answer a very basic question and just rudely slammed the door on me and sped off before I could even try to communicate in French honestly the only other place Ive been where people would refuse to answer you based on who you are is Northern Ireland, and no country wants to be like that place. people over there have a really terrible murderous history and they have very real reasons to hate each other - but they are reasons - not excuses. if some British person asked me for directions over there I would be polite and give him the directions. if Irish people can be friendly to British tourists, then there is really no excuse for hatred here - honestly. cuz if modern Quebecois think they have suffered oppression and discrimination from the White Anglo Saxon Protestants they should take a trip to Northern Ireland and see what it really is. my first cousin moved his family to London England because Protestant thugs in his town were firebombing peoples homes - while they slept - and despite that he doesnt let that turn him into a hateful person it is cool to be protective and proud of your culture but there is no excuse to let it turn you into a rude unpleasant bigot. that said, there will be a few assholes no matter where you go. most of my experiences here have been very good. I love Quebec and the culture, and I do feel people living here should respect the culture and be able to speak French. there is no excuse for someone living here as long as I have not to know French yet, so I need to get on that ASAP. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sun Apr 5, 2009 @ 9:33pm |
| Coolness: 202150 | all I know is it would have cost me money since I have worked at french-only institutions before. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Sun Apr 5, 2009 @ 10:39pm |
 Coolness: 146125 | i've never understood your problem about this whole thing neoform, all of the rest of canada and the states is english, is it too much to ask that one little piece of north america be french? If your so un happy why stay, if you feel so miss treated in quebec why stay? I got to be honest i never feel like anyone is treating me badly because i'm not "french enough" in quebec, however i have felt like i have been miss treated sometimes in the rest of canada and by other canadians...
I feel like sometimes dude you dream of waking up in an all english quebec, is this what you want? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Mon Apr 6, 2009 @ 12:42am |
 Coolness: 107040 | Originally Posted By NEOFORM
No, that's unacceptable, choosing is not your right, instead, you must speak french, because you're in Quebec. Speaking French in Quebec, its called communicating with the peoples. You know, like when in Rome, do as the Romans...? Here in Quebec, You are free to speak only English. Nobody will ever threaten you with a gun. Most Quebecois will even accommodate you by speaking English, so I really dont see what you have to complain about. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Mon Apr 6, 2009 @ 12:47am |
 Coolness: 167470 | people who hate quebec are just jealous |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Mon Apr 6, 2009 @ 1:02am |
 Coolness: 130645 | Neoform, I don't think anyone can dispute you're a Quebecer if you're born here, so I don't why you're all worked up about it
As for the French part, if it makes you happy not to speak it, so be it, just don't complain that you find life a bit more difficult as a result. I mean you could even choose to just speak CHINESE if you really wanted to, forget both English or French lol...I dunno if it would make your life easier but hey if it makes you happy go for it |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon Apr 6, 2009 @ 1:03am |
| Coolness: 340590 | My problem is that I choose to speak English. Yes I can speak french and when I feel it's more convenient.. I speak french. But it's my decision to choose and I don't need someone telling me that I'm required by law to do so.
The government should be working to better our lives, not hinder it. In a free country you should have the right to do what you want and if that means conducting your life in a different language other than french, then that's how it's gonna go. If I've ever dreamed of an English Quebec, it's only because I'm sick of all this division it causes. Separatists piss me off to no end because it would force me to move and I don't want to, I like it here. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Apr 6, 2009 @ 1:15am |
 Coolness: 686515 | Originally Posted By NEOFORM
Guess what, anyone who says "you're in quebec, speak french".. fuck you. I'll speak any fucking language I want, no one is going to tell me what I can/can't do, this is a free country. Much as people are getting tired of me repeating the same story over and over again, imagine what it was like for me, being born on quebec and having french be my first language, but having been taught by a european family, and having kids in kindergarten telling me to fuck off and go back to my own country because they didn't want any fucking immigrants in their country. The average quebecer that thinks everyone should speak french really just means "their" french, and is a racist, xenophobic motherfucker that I have zero respect for. I speak french around my grandparents, and occasionaly when talking to my mother or father, but for the rest, FUCK YOU, I'm speaking english specifically because I'm not going to pander to a people who believe in xenophobic and racist ideals that have somehow made it into LAWS. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Mon Apr 6, 2009 @ 1:19am |
| Coolness: 107040 | Neoform, you are free to conduct your life in Greek if you want. Whats the problem? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon Apr 6, 2009 @ 1:21am |
| Coolness: 340590 | Originally Posted By BLISSS
As for the French part, if it makes you happy not to speak it, so be it, just don't complain that you find life a bit more difficult as a result. My life isn't made harder, I'm bilingual.. I can speak French.. hell, half my family speaks to me in french, because they're French. What I'm complaining about is all these people who think the government is justified in forcing french upon everyone in Quebec. That's bullshit. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Mon Apr 6, 2009 @ 1:30am |
| Coolness: 130645 | I don't think anyone in Quebec has ever been FORCED to learn French
Give me one example where that happened Update » Blisss wrote on Mon Apr 6, 2009 @ 1:36am And Screwhead, seriously you got insulted in kindergarten so what man, that was like 25 years ago, so now based on that you think all Quebecers are racist and prejudiced therefore you'll never speak french EVER to anyone except your parents just to get back at all those evil kindergarten kids???
Its ridiculous and you know it! :P |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Mon Apr 6, 2009 @ 2:31am |
| Coolness: 146125 | "If I've ever dreamed of an English Quebec, it's only because I'm sick of all this division it causes. Separatists piss me off to no end because it would force me to move and I don't want to, I like it here."
so you admit it, that's what you want, that's ridiculous, and it puts you against me cause i want the opposite... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Mon Apr 6, 2009 @ 2:45am |
| Coolness: 130645 | Guys, its not worth fighting about this shit
Remember the PLUR! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon Apr 6, 2009 @ 8:21am |
| Coolness: 340590 | Originally Posted By BASDINI
"If I've ever dreamed of an English Quebec, it's only because I'm sick of all this division it causes. Separatists piss me off to no end because it would force me to move and I don't want to, I like it here." so you admit it, that's what you want, that's ridiculous, and it puts you against me cause i want the opposite... You did see the qualifier "if" at the beginning of my statement, right? If is a conditional statement answering a theoretical. It is in no way an admission of fact. Originally Posted By Blisss
I don't think anyone in Quebec has ever been FORCED to learn French Give me one example where that happened one example? immigrants to Quebec are required to go to french immersion schools. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Mon Apr 6, 2009 @ 8:35am |
| Coolness: 130645 | Originally Posted By NEOFORM
one example? immigrants to Quebec are required to go to french immersion schools. kids ALL OVER Canada are "required' to take French classes in school, another example plz |
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