Quebec Haters...
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 1:47pm |
 Coolness: 159160 | Sorry, but bullshit.
First of all, the rest of the world has multi-language games. So I don't see the fuss. Second, English-only games will still be sold. Third, it's not "a pain" to translate the game unless you ask CHINESE testers to check French localization. Seriously. Loc takes a week at most and most of it is reading text from a list. There's no bad reason to not have French in our games. The only inconvenience is that most companies don't want to spend the money by hiring people from whatever language they need translating it into. I know that Gameloft has always been multi-lingual, as far as our console games are concerned and it's never been a problem :) Update » DCRn wrote on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 1:49pm I used to sell games at Compucentre when the law to include french manuals passed.
It didn't hurt our sales. At all. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 2:02pm |
 Coolness: 686515 | let's see, under this new law, WOW would be really fucked up. Since there's a french WOW, the english version is now illegal to sell. The difference is that the french WOW uses european servers, and the english one uses north american servers.
So, anyone that wants to start playing WOW now wouldn't be able to play with their friends, as the serial numbers from the EUR version of the game aren't the same as the NA version.. Time-cards also don't work with each other. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 2:08pm |
| Coolness: 159160 | Then Blizzard would need to setup a north-american French server. I mean, fuck, Blizzard HAS a studio in Canada.
I understand on the side of video game companies, it's more expenses. But Quebec is five times bigger than France and THEY get their own regional games... so why not us? Sure, I've properly learned English from playing Final Fantasy in 1989. Sure, I prefer my games in their original language. I still see Quebec's point in wanting games made in the most spoken language of the region. Same as for movies and music and whatnot. Update » DCRn wrote on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 2:09pm This law will only show a split between companies who care about their players and those who only care about cash.
BTW, Tomb Raider's been in French for quite a while. Update » DCRn wrote on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 2:10pm Most of Eidos, Ubisoft and EA games are now available in a minimum of three languages, up to eight. Do they seem to be dying here? No.
So maybe MMOs will rush a bit. That's okay. MMOs should all die. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 2:55pm |
 Coolness: 340590 | Fuck the Quebec government for cramming this bullshit down our throats.
This only serves to piss of any/all English people as well as gamers who only care about gaming. Self righteous pricks. |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 4:16pm |
 Coolness: 160045 | Originally Posted By NEOFORM
Fuck the Quebec government for cramming this bullshit down our throats. This only serves to piss of any/all English people as well as gamers who only care about gaming. Self righteous pricks. That's how I'm seeing it as well. Are they supposed to catter to an ACTUAL need or is the Société St-Jean-Baptiste trying to justify its existence again ? Fuck, I've got at least 2 french-canadian friends who can't get enough of imported japanese RPGs. They play 60-hour games entirely written in japanese. You don't see them complain about the language, they just love these games so much. What about games sold in other countries ? Does Japan require english text for all its games BY LAW ? Don't think so. And since when is a game about LANGUAGE ? Now, I understand the need for this in a text extensive games like Mass Effect but for a first-person shooter game like, for instance, Killzone 2 ? You're fighting off hordes of aliens who don't speak either languages. And who cares if it reads "MAP" or "CARTE" on the goddam world map ? Every french-canadian gamer I know knows what the fuck "Map", "Reload", "Headshot" and "Rocket Launcher" stands for. What's next ? Are we going to have to translate songs in Rock Band and Guitar Hero while we're at it ? Can't wait to play Guitar Hero Metallica with such great hits as : - Entrer Le Bonhomme De Sable - Ceux Pour Qui La Cloche Sonne - Maître des Marionnettes - Le Non-Oublié - Rien D'Autre Compte - Essence Re.Tar.Ded. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 4:50pm |
| Coolness: 159160 | Japan doesn't have English as first language.
You seem to imply that the hardcore gamer is the model client for video games purchases. It's not. My roommate played all Super Robot Taisen games in Jap without knowing the language. Are those also representing the community? No. The people representing the target clientele? The mother and her kids coming to buy the lat Mario game, the family buying a Wii Fit or monopoly. The couple buying Little Big Planet. The casual gamer. And the casual gamer is most likely not faithful enough to want to suffer through hours of not understanding a game simply because 7.8% of Quebec's population are whining that they don't want to share their games with the 60% or more percent of Quebec's population who aren't bilingual. Fucking tantrums. The rest of the world offers multiple languages. Check games in Europe. They sometimes even have Dutch, Hungarian and other languages! It's not impossible to implement as it's been implemented around the world for years. You people sure enjoy your self-imposed sense of being oppressed. Update » DCRn wrote on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 4:51pm And please, don't tell me the target clientele isn't those ones mentioned. I've sold video games for at least four years. The number of people buying casual games far outnumbered the fans coming in at release date for a zelda game. Update » DCRn wrote on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 4:53pm You guys also seem to ignore the fact that the law is simply saying "if your game has English AND French versions, put them on the same disk".
How hard is that? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 4:54pm |
| Coolness: 340590 | Originally Posted By DRNYARLATHOTEP
Japan doesn't have English as first language. You seem to imply that the hardcore gamer is the model client for video games purchases. It's not. My roommate played all Super Robot Taisen games in Jap without knowing the language. Are those also representing the community? No. The people representing the target clientele? The mother and her kids coming to buy the lat Mario game, the family buying a Wii Fit or monopoly. The couple buying Little Big Planet. The casual gamer. And the casual gamer is most likely not faithful enough to want to suffer through hours of not understanding a game simply because 7.8% of Quebec's population are whining that they don't want to share their games with the 60% or more percent of Quebec's population who aren't bilingual. Fucking tantrums. The rest of the world offers multiple languages. Check games in Europe. They sometimes even have Dutch, Hungarian and other languages! It's not impossible to implement as it's been implemented around the world for years. You people sure enjoy your self-imposed sense of being oppressed. I have no idea what your point is. This new law will only stop people from getting non-french versions of the game. This will not make it easier to get french versions. All this law does is piss off people who don't want french copies of the game. This is nanny state bullshit where the government is telling you what you want. If consumers want the french version, demand for the french version will go up. If people want the english version, demand for the english version will go up. Why the fuck is the government interfering with this? This is supply and demand 101, and they're deciding what people want. This will hurt the gaming retailers in quebec severely. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 4:57pm |
| Coolness: 159160 | No, the law will stop people from getting English-only games if French versions exist somewhere else but aren't sold here.
This is why, for instance, you can find both English and French versions of Fallout 3 or Scene It. So yeah, it does help getting French versions. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 4:59pm |
 Coolness: 186280 | premièrement l'article dit que c'est une lois quand ce n'est pas vrai, c'est une entente
et deuxièmement, ça dit que si le jeu a une version française celle ci doit être vendu au québec, mais si le jeu n'a pas de version française, il peut quand même être vendu au québec "...l'article du Toronto Star fait référence à une loi, alors qu'il s'agit plutôt d'une entente survenue entre l'Office québécois de la langue française et l'Association canadienne du logiciel de divertissement en 2007. Cette entente donnait jusqu'au 1er avril pour que tous les nouveaux jeux vidéo vendus au Québec pour les consoles de nouvelle génération soient offerts en français, si la version française existe quelque part sur la planète. Les jeux unilingues anglais seront toujours offerts s'il n'y a pas de version française équivalente." [ matin.branchez-vous.com ] |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 5:00pm |
| Coolness: 159160 | Exact. Donc ton jeu de Leisure Suit Larry qui a pas de version francaise va quand meme etre vendu ici. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 5:02pm |
| Coolness: 186280 | nenon, c'est la fin du monde là
arrête, pauvres anglais on leur oblige d'acheter des jeux en français ta pas bien lu l'article, tsé l'article qui vient d'un gars de toronto qui sait pas de quoi y parle? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 5:07pm |
 Coolness: 107040 | A lot of Anglos like to bitch and whine about there rights... Its what insecure minority do best.
If you can purchase crack off the street corner, I dont see why English only versions of video games would be a problem to find, even in the context of a super coercive law. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» qwertyu replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 5:21pm |
 Coolness: 73805 | with or without the french debate, i still think quebec sucks donkeys ass. hihihih xD It's fucking cold, the roads are shit, we're culturaly isolated from the rest of the continent, lots of things are far more expensive than in the states, blah.
And i think we're culturally retarded a bit too. Everything was so english in Montreal 50yrs ago that french people were backwarded farmers living in the middle of nowhere. And this retardation still shows somehow a bit. It's still part of our culture. Things have gotten alot better and we more and more have a decent cultural identity and all but i guess i'm too much of an individualist prick to care. I'm sick of Quebec. I know that i have a pretty narrowminded subjective point of view, that was just my two cents and i would still have a beer with you if you feel ofended by this. héhé |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 5:23pm |
| Coolness: 159160 | Anyway, j'adore le fait qu'ils utilisent GameBuzz comme example.
Le magasin "survit" pas de sa vente de jeux mais plutot de sa vente de vieux classiques overpricés (tsé genre Dragon Warrior 4 pour 300$ ou Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance pour 200$) et de figurines d'anime. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 5:28pm |
| Coolness: 107040 | Originally Posted By LAURENT
I'm sick of Quebec. I know that i have a pretty narrowminded subjective point of view, that was just my two cents and i would still have a beer with you if you feel ofended by this. héhé For a minute there i thought you where just a troll, but looks like you're the usual garden variety bigot. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 6:13pm |
 Coolness: 202150 | the video game law is meaningless with services such as steam where you download the game instead of buying a boxed copy
Same with WoW, when I used to play, I downloaded the game, never bought a copy of it. Also you could order the game, the Quebec law will hurt businesses though.. But the Quebec government is very unfriendly to business, hence why they all moved their headquarters to Toronto and probably why our unemployment has always been high |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» qwertyu replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 6:32pm |
| Coolness: 73805 | Originally Posted By DATABOY
For a minute there i thought you where just a troll, but looks like you're the usual garden variety bigot. haha nah, i just wanted to say my point, and by the way, i dont << hate >> Quebec, i just dont enjoy it, to each his own. ;) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 7:54pm |
 Coolness: 109730 | Originally Posted By NEOFORM
I have no idea what your point is. This new law will only stop people from getting non-french versions of the game. This will not make it easier to get french versions. All this law does is piss off people who don't want french copies of the game. This is nanny state bullshit where the government is telling you what you want. If consumers want the french version, demand for the french version will go up. If people want the English version, demand for the English version will go up. Why the fuck is the government interfering with this? This is supply and demand 101, and they're deciding what people want. This will hurt the gaming retailers in Quebec severely. You're WRONG ! Often I go to a canadian bilingual site and unless I NEED TO, like here I'm getting annoyed if I don't conform to the established language, I want to exchange in French. However, I know that the email dispatcher will send me to the understaffed, or even external, French staff so it will take 2-3 times longueur to have a reply ; I often think of the fact that people that don't understand this might take my English message as a statistic to the English section so I make to to put a note to those situation stating this and stating than unless I get a noticeable delay, I'd prefer a French reply, which I never had ... Update » DynV wrote on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 7:58pm Also video games set the tone for the video game users that will come to be in power, if they get the senss that it's ok to go against the fabric of a different society to make a slightly bigger margin of profit, they will keep that in mind consciously or not. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 8:19pm |
 Coolness: 132520 | "anglophones" wont bust their ass trying to workout their french ,
this is why we reply to them in english . saves time / and less insulting than hearing your own language being butchered down by complete lazyness. we have no choice but to learn their language and choose most of our media in such , to respond to the invastion from inside. theach them |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 10:07pm |
 Coolness: 146125 | Originally Posted By NEOFORM
"Displaying 1 - 10 out of 174 group results for: quebec libre" *cough* but go look for "canada sucks" or "fuck canada" "maudit canada" groups, ones started by people in quebec (not just americans who want to laugh...) i don't see a 'quebec libre' group on the same level as a 'fuck quebec' group the first one is a political thing the second is racism, you might come back with "anyone who supports an independent quebec is being racist" but i don't believe that for one second anyway wasn't it you who doubted me that people in the rest of canada hate us, what more proof do you need? |
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