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Live Proof Provided Dsl Compagnies Only Knows How To F U Over
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Mon Mar 30, 2009 @ 2:14am |
 Coolness: 132520 | man 8 months ago , they crossed my phone line with the neibours upon service installation
i was receiving their calls , and i was making mine from them, then its was all good in 3 days, had 2 Mbits download (even if i pay for 5) and 800 Kbit sec. but then one day . it was all down from, 800 Kbit to 640 Kbit, while still having modem "availability of 800 Kbit but with a softcap of 640 Kbit. (wile having 1.5 Mbit down) something like what i had last month but ***better*** (see above stats) i didnt anticipate THAT screenshot then 
then after a month , they decided to drop the 800 Kbit upload to an " available 800 Kbit " according to my adsl console, but caped to 640 Kbit. like that screenshot witch again i didnt anticipate, our should i say " tought necessary " 
thus i notified them , then they dropped even more for exposing them soo much and being so "needy" even if i payed for more. at that point they droped me to less than 300 Kbit upload ( allways consider the download to be unaffected ! , and being in the dB , noise and distace that can provide more , this is all managed from their side on the CISCO DASAM HOST ) there is the screenshot with folowing mail 
Hi , i just renewed my account yesterday i told the agent at the desk that bell on top of crossing my line with the neibours, downed my upload speed 3 times from 800k/s to 640k/s to 300k/s and to 640k/s NOW , AFTER BEING FINE WITH THEIR TERRORISM OF 640K IMPOSED (since they dont want to put me at 800k) THEY, U , OR WHOEVER HAS AUTHORITY ON THE LINE ( CALL IT MORE MONOPOLY IMO ) HAS DOWNED ME AGAIN TO 416K IS THIS A JOKE, YOU CAN SEE THESE RESULTS ON YOUR SIDE SO WHY MAKE SUCH A RETARD ASSUMPITON ILL TOLERATE THIS. ** THIS IS WHAT I DEMAND ** (1) YOU MAKE MY LINE 1800k DOWN 800k UP (2) THERE IS NO REASON I CANT UPLOAD TO THAT SPEED BUT LINE CAPING ON YOUR SIDE, HOW CAN U EXPLAIN DONLOAD ELSE ?? *** FAILIURE TO ANSWER MY DEMAND WILL GO TO MY ATTORNEY AND I WILL ASK COMPLETE REFUND *** DO YOUR WORK PLEASE - IM MAKING THIS PUBLIC FOR NOW ON SO I NOTIFIED THEM AGAIN, THE TECH WAS RUDE , TOLD ME DONT TELL ME HOW TO DO MY JOB AND LAUGHTED NERVOUSLY. THEN I TOLD HIM I RECORD MY PHONE LINE ( WITCH REALLY I DO ) . THEN HE HUNG UP AND MAJICALLY MY LINE GOT BACK TO 640 Kbit upload afterwards thats the screenshot after & mail i sent em bizzarly half an hour after my email i am back to 640k its 21h23 dont mess it under theses parameters, its not irregularity on the line, its a a tech that doesnt want to punch in 800k again anything under 640k AND I ASK A COMPLETE REFUND cheers for more than 8 month i compromised to this speed 1.5 Mbit down / 640 Kbit up (2 Mb avail / 1 Mb up avail SO I COULD HAVE 800 k up ! they just soft caped me)... it never changed , was all stable even during bad weather , etc.. i was all good till yesterday around 1100 pm , since last month upon renewal (on the 26th) i ask them if they could see to it, maybe changing the C.O. location , or whatever , as long as if they see a speed downgrade to switch me back right ? since i would call them back anyways ... ( aroudn 26th , were the 29th now , A MONTH AWAY ! talk about service ) now this is the horror i got yesterday on the 29th upon asking them to " see to it " and if nothing can be done i would at least stay with 1.5M bit / 640 Kbit ( .. word of advise , never compromise it leads to more abuse from them ) see what i have to deal now for since they only know how to NOT do their shit. 
i am thinking of going to lapress buisness with this , and hopefully get a collective with many people that are being defraud as such , on top of the lies provided from them to "save more bandwith" and get a better ratio per service offered. to think im not even receiving the 1/5 th upload im paying for while being in the 1km limit and whatever butchering their doing with my upload. think how much difficuly it was for me to throuput this message. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH MONOPOLY MUST BE OVERTHROWN. in hopes to mail some more , if they cut me its been grand , but i wont be silenced. hpe this will help others , keep the word alive Update » cutterhead wrote on Mon Mar 30, 2009 @ 5:48am *****************UPDATE ***************************** I WON**************************
*************************** WITH SAME OLD COMPROMISE ******************************** after all the garbage i sent them , they lighted up , my phone line isnt noisy anymore damn I it might have been RESOLVED during the night , but christ , the notice was last month on the 26-28, why the hell wait a complete month to try somthing up ?! talk about service ! 
how long you think they would have left it so ? meaning without me sending em all the data ?? and also , NOT HAVING MY SUPER DSL CONSOLE or being a stock user ??? and HINT , ITS 5am , it took them ALL night resolving this ??! butchered job ! Update » cutterhead wrote on Mon Mar 30, 2009 @ 6:17am anybody that are victims of such "innaceptance" from bell to comply with contract when 800 Kbit up is properly written , down , and not that they CANT , they just wont , they will fake the speed downgrade
when they simply configure it down instead of up. > my reference : lookup on google for " CISCO DASAM or ASAM HOST CONSOLE " and you will see it simply goes like this in "c" computer language : linespeed {downstream, upstream} so they simply are not willing to punch down 800 on the second field , and prefer 640. this is a bidirectionnal speed. as you see my ATTAINABLE rate goes higher than whatthey give. maybe its time for that private sector to be renewed by another one that has better respect to its investor. LIKE A COOPERATIVE |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Mon Mar 30, 2009 @ 6:42am |
 Coolness: 153930 | you know what, they advertise speeds UP TO something, unfortunately, they can provide you with a 1k download 1k upload connection and they will still be legal, you cant do anything about that in court.
just for your information |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Mon Mar 30, 2009 @ 6:45am |
 Coolness: 109730 | Here's what I think of the actual business model. Make sure you have a written contract. If you don't like the service complain, second time ask a manager to resolve the issue as you think is very serious, third time stop paying and get service from another company and let them sue you ; there's a problem though, they will send your case to a recovery company, which is legal harassment (although how much of it is legal?) so be ready to turn off your answering machine or unplug your phone line for a while.
The underlying issue is much bigger, people don't hold much value to their rights, they calculate how much it will make them loose them and how much to live with it instead of seeing it the way it really is : abuse. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Mon Mar 30, 2009 @ 7:15am |
| Coolness: 132520 | Originally Posted By DEADFUNK
you know what, they advertise speeds UP TO something, unfortunately, they can provide you with a 1k download 1k upload connection and they will still be legal, you cant do anything about that in court. just for your information obviously you havent understood a thing and your overwhelmed by numbers, i was a tech at bell, i LANTERNED my line , it has 8 Mbits prifiling. on a side note i juste changed my phone wire to a EMI filtered with a ferrite bed wrap. line occupency is MODEM ONLY i am 5 feet away from the DMARC point ( line entry from outside / where it is my autority ) i agree 1 Mbit is loss somewhere outside , but i should be getting 3Mbit down / 800Mbit up i am in a populated area where Ultra is avail all around , were less than 25 meter from a brown box and the CO is 1000m away. according to the DASAM host im am PRETTY WELL INTO THE MAX SPECT. 4 mb pings back stable ! read dammit , see here 
i also lanterned my neibours , and friends neerby and my house came out the fastest, le neibour gets 7mb , and my friend house one street away is 6mb. this is thes fastest avail, they just want more bang for the buck Update » cutterhead wrote on Mon Mar 30, 2009 @ 7:25am i know all the scam at bell, i know they were my co-workers.
now , when they give you a "no contract" and say " 6 months @ " you will get thoses first 6 month at the speed you ask , not tied to a contract, but after 6 month . they will down your speed , noticing the agent made you a " fake sell " for his team sells. now on top of that, when you will call to tell them , they will have no trace of the agent, since after 6 months its impossible to track unregisted agents sales. witch is the case here, some manager have bets between them , and stress so much incentives IF they make sells , in the end , they just look at how many also the tape is gone by then. not at all quality. this is why i record my phone conversation with buisnesses do you question my integrity on this deadfunk ? they broke my contract, im allowed to expose this. Update » cutterhead wrote on Mon Mar 30, 2009 @ 7:31am i was one of the fastest learning tech at bell, and effective too , my no call back ratio was +95%
the only thing i couldnt resolved was "service not installed yet" , this explain the remaining 5% i focused on honesty and getting the member the best service he could get. what bell didnt like , is that i didnt rebottle 3 times / stressed value added services ( i was a tech hired /w no sells so the hell ? ) and everytime they challenged me with the sells , i said i couldnt garantee a sell, since im not the member. but i could garantee him his service he payed for in the first place. but since managers have their supervisor compete sells between them it leads to this . dude im serious about making this public, this is my passive way before having a whole article in lapress affaire. Update » cutterhead wrote on Mon Mar 30, 2009 @ 7:33am contract or not, if you have proofs , you have a legal case. Update » cutterhead wrote on Mon Mar 30, 2009 @ 7:56am 
i dont want this thread to turn into a joke, but your understandment of conducting buisness , insults me if you buy a chocolate bar, and the clerk nabs half of if after you pay, IS A LEGAL CASE, WEATER IS CONTRACT OR NOT . BE AWARE OF YOU RIGHT MAN, AND DONT SPREAD MISSINFORMATION i have no agenda on this, nobody payed me to exposed this, i am just aware that more than 30K ppl AT LEAST are being defrauded by these means , AND SINCE THEIR ALONE AGAINST THE WOLF I HAVE SIMPATHY FOR THEM AND KNOWLEDGE AND THE ANGER OF BEING FUCKOVER BY A COMPAGNY THAT WANTED ME TO DO SO IN THE FIRST PLACE Update » cutterhead wrote on Mon Mar 30, 2009 @ 8:16am if numbers are too small on screen you should zoom with your browser on the numbers provided
hold [ctrl] + press [+] as needed , when your over hold [ctrl] + press [0] Update » cutterhead wrote on Mon Mar 30, 2009 @ 9:45am 1 47 U.S.C. § 202(a) (“It shall be unlawful for any common carrier to make any unjust or unreasonable discrimination
in charges, practices, classifications, regulations, facilities, or services for or in connection with like communications service….”). 2 See generally FCC Classifies Cable Modem Service as “Information Service”, March 14, 2002, available at [ www.fcc. ] gov/Bureaus/Cable/News_Releases/2002/nrcb0201.html; FCC Eliminates Mandated Sharing Requirement on Incumbents’ Wireline Broadband Internet Services, Aug. 5, 2005, available at [ hraunfoss.fcc.gov ] 260433A1.pdf. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Count_Bandit replied on Mon Mar 30, 2009 @ 3:43pm |
 Coolness: 50085 | how do you record a phone conversation? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Luna-1 replied on Mon Mar 30, 2009 @ 3:55pm |
 Coolness: 119425 | fuck bell all i have to say ! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Mon Mar 30, 2009 @ 7:21pm |
 Coolness: 151385 | Originally Posted By S.T.F.U
how do you record a phone conversation? 
The chick in this pic is so fucking spy, man. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Tue Mar 31, 2009 @ 11:38am |
| Coolness: 153930 | i never said anything you said was false, you are right on everything you can prove.
my point is not in anything technical. they advertise speed "UP TO" that means from a legal point of view, they can give you anything they want. so if they sell your speed "up to" 5 meg and give you .256, they are still legal because .256 is in the "up to" category. why do you think they write that, they have advocates and notaries that make sure that they will be protected whatever happens. about you chocolate thing, if you go at the store and buy something thats written "up to" 50g of chocolate, arrive home and it only weights 30g, they are still legal selling it to you. i have yet to see an internet company that will guarantee a certain speed. seriously, i was just informing you of the legal side of this. i think you like to get on your high horses really fast, if you read my comment i never went "against" you like you seem to think, i just informed you of the legal side of thier advertising, yes, technically you may know more than me, and you proven that you dont have the desired speed, i never argued on this. but they advertise as UP TO, not EXACTLY that speed. you have to know that i am on your side, i hate bell, and i hate this kind of practice made by the internet providers. BUT ITS LEGAL. THATS WHY THEY DO IT SAYING "UP TO". btw im re-reading your response to my comment, and you arent even saying anything related to it, im talking about the legal thing about thier publicity and how they adv ertise it, and you still reply with you technical things about how slow you are yes you are slow, and yes it is sad, and yes its sucks, but by writing "UP TO" they are on the "legal" side of the thing now, please, dont reply with anything technical about how close to the d-slam you are or anything, because i wasnt even talking about that. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Tue Mar 31, 2009 @ 2:33pm |
| Coolness: 132520 | Originally Posted By DEADFUNK
[1] yes you are slow, and yes it is sad, and yes its sucks, but by writing "UP TO" they are on the "legal" side of the thing [2] now, please, dont reply with anything technical about how close to the d-slam you are or anything, because i wasnt even talking about that. [1] up to is for remote area, ppl around have all 8mb no reason for it. i won, with info provided , me and the tech we detemined the line (whole block) has meen moved to a damage one, theyre fixing it, but withou everything provided , my compagny claimed it ws my modem, and just wanted to swap that, when the line had a noise pproblem, that "shaped" my modem, and would have destroyed the other one the same. dead funk i really know bell policy, and its not to be used as an excuse , but as a real life situation, witch was not the case here [2] dont worry --- there are multiple was to record a phone conversation, mines too hi tech to expose , but im evaluating if i should leek the design , or still try to get money for my soldering skills, and market overview. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kishmay_Pinas replied on Tue Mar 31, 2009 @ 4:06pm |
 Coolness: 104180 | Even when they protect themselves with "UP TO" there is also a minimum low end speed that they do guarantee.
At least Telus DSL did. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 1:59am |
| Coolness: 132520 | by the way : deadfunk's "upto" argument is technical, its also illegal to use to dodge service repairs
they still have problem at the attribution with my line, they changed something, now im stuck at 30 Kbyte up/down for being such an internet harpoonist. seems that even way under my monthly download limit (im at 60gb of 100gb) they decided that it was too much or something, now its like if my line is tapped or some shit. to add to the insult , only [ vif.com ] bundle a 800Kbit upload, and seems my neibours got bell install, and they gave him my line ( better quality : what the tech told me) and i got swap to an shittyer line , since they want monopoly ( on top bell is only 640k, why DOES SUDDENTLY I GET MY LINE CUT, NOISED OUT ,?) LEGIT ? i doupt it allthou i got them to admit on recording its not my modem or house wiring . else they leave you no paper trail of what they do, is that legit? again NO im looking for a commercial trunk line now. suggestionwelcomed Update » cutterhead wrote on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 2:03am they also addmitted sending 60v across my pairs.
this is like 2 test line dropped on my line, no wonder the CO equipment is destroyed. but honestly, i think their deliberately sending garbage on it, else 611 would have resolved it already. they should call me again tomorrow. Update » cutterhead wrote on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 2:06am problem come when line is idle on a same site, if i browse everywhere as long as i keep moving,
the overall speed doesnt get throttled. fuck D-P-I [ www.cisco.com ] When you execute the cap baud command, Cisco IOS creates the named profile, if it does not exist. Changed values apply to all ports associated with the selected configuration profile. Example In this example, the command enables the 136 downstream and 68 upstream kbaud symbol rates for the profile named issis: DSLAM# conf t DSLAM# dsl-profile issis DSLAM(config-dsl-prof)# cap baud downstream 136k DSLAM(config-dsl-prof)# cap baud upstream 68k DSLAM(config-dsl-prof)# CNTL/z |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ApR1zM replied on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 9:24am |
 Coolness: 165725 | •From a remote console or workstation—Initiate a Telnet connection to a target DSLAM. Telnet allows you to remotely issue CLI commands to that chassis.
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 1:23pm |
| Coolness: 132520 | HAHAHAHAHA , nice prompt
after yesterday, where the other guy just said nothing could be done , while leaving noise on the line, today they simply cut an excess wire, so my bet is that wire they cut, is now the guy that has my 800K upload service , and im stuck with shit : they rerouted me to a +5km pair, today last month 1.5 Mbit down / 640 Kbit up today 4 Mbit down / 320 Kbit up im quite pissed for having my sevice caped that way, thou its not the 100 Kbit up AND 30volts shoved on my pairs last week. i have good records of lots of conversations, im , beeping my personnal info , and you will have juice for your show Aprime - > getting fucked over by your boss , co-worker, isp and techs : shitty - > loging on a bad hair day to find leaked turned into complete system awareness : priceless - > for anything else , there is " 31337 " hahaha , man aprime, totally delivered ! |
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