Vhs Over Dvd
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sun Mar 22, 2009 @ 11:57pm |
 Coolness: 686515 | I've come to a weird conclusion; I think DVDs have greatly reduced my enjoyment of horror movie watching.
I just got done watching Prince of Darkness, and I really love this movie.. But something just seemed so... wrong. Everything was bright, you could make out all the details perfectly, the audio was crisp and clean and you could hear every single thing perfectly... And suddenly, a great horror movie that was fairly creepy to watch just, well, isn't all that creepy or scary anymore.. Renting VHS from the video-store, you'd be watching something that hundreds of other people had watched before.. It would be dark, grainy, you couldn't always see what was going on too well, there would be audio glitches here and there, the sound was almost like someone was muffling it a little so you had to turn it up really loud to hear everything (including the tape-hiss).. It was so much more of a spooky and mysterious experience.. You could never quite make out exactly what the monster looked like, the cheezy makeup jobs were blurred just enough to not see how bad they actually were, and the bad scores were made so much better with that extra hiss and tape-distortion.. Now, though, thanks to the miracle of DVD transfers, you can hear just how bad the score really is, the dialog is crystal-clear and you don't have to really try and pay attention to know what's going on, so you don't get sucked in as much... In the darkest of scenes, the picture is clear and bright as if it was being held out in the sun at noon, so you're not straining to see if there's anything hidden in the shadows.. With the crystal-clear image, you can really see how fake those prosthetic limbs are, how that creature is blatantly just a latex puppet, how those scars and wounds are just really bad makeup.. DVDs have totally killed the soul of horror movies. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear replied on Mon Mar 23, 2009 @ 12:09am |
 Coolness: 2750400 | Maybe you have just watched too many of them and are desensitized now... But it's true computer effects kill movies... It makes it really not believable... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon Mar 23, 2009 @ 12:09am |
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notice how the video in the ring is grainy and sketchy? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear replied on Mon Mar 23, 2009 @ 12:14am |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Mar 23, 2009 @ 12:19am |
| Coolness: 686515 | It's not the de-sensitizing.. It's the overall feel and mood of the movies.. Like, I've got three different versions of the first Return of the Living Dead movie; a DVD rip, a rip of the first widescreen VHS release of it, and a workprint with half the effects not done and no score or sound-effects..
Out of the three of them, the worst the image quality the better and more enjoyable the movie is, because it doesn't just look like it's obviously bad latex masks.. The colours are kinda muddy and washed out, the sound isn't perfect.. It really makes you get more "into" the movie, because you have to focus your hearing and your vision to make sure you catch everything.. With the DVD copy, the sound is so clear and crisp, and the picture also, that you don't really have to focus on the movie to see what (if anything) is in the shadows.. And the sound also; it's the difference between hearing and listening.. The audio on the DVD rips is just so clear and precise that you don't have to listen and focus, you can read a book or talk to someone and still catch everything that's being said perfectly.. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Mon Mar 23, 2009 @ 1:47am |
 Coolness: 202150 | watch the DVD on a bad TV with horrible sound |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Mon Mar 23, 2009 @ 6:31am |
 Coolness: 109730 | Originally Posted By SCOTTYP
watch the DVD on a bad TV with horrible sound Nooooooooo ! The times have evolved. If you want to have modern troubles making you focus on the movie, take a butter knife or something not too sharp and do some icecapades on the bottom of your DVD, when the player have rebuffered for the X hundredth time after a couple minutes, the thrill of having a playable part will make you enjoy it much more thus the complaining will drop. Don't forget to sing some Disney while doing it, how about Lion King - Circle of Life ? If Elton John doesn't cut it for homoerotisicm, try George Michael ! Oh that version doesn't have the Prima Donna. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Mar 23, 2009 @ 6:58am |
| Coolness: 686515 | I started the same thread on a horror board, and so far the one person that's answered says the same thing, and he makes independant horror movies! (that I'm supplying bits of the score now  )
Sonny
It's something I've been saying for a long time now. The first time I watched TCM it was HORRIBLE quality, the entire bottom half of the screen was fucked up...my sister was visiting and they were all asleep behind me so I had to watch it sitting really close to the TV. But all that made the movie BETTER. There's so much talk of high definition...perfect pictures...FUCK ALL THAT. I have Evil Dead on DVD, but I watch it on my old ass recorded VHS tape more than anything else, on DVD you can see the tubes and shit...VHS you can't. People are just getting so spoiled nowadays. If there's a grain in the picture geeks fucking freak out and talk about the poor quality of the image. I WANT my horror movies grimy and dingy and dirty and yes HARD TO SEE. Gives them their oomph. Everything looks so goddamn clean and perfect... Makes me sick... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Turtle replied on Mon Mar 23, 2009 @ 12:39pm |
 Coolness: 69230 | it also doesn't help when the dvd is cratched and can't watch the movie....Vhs unless the film is ripped out or watched too many times it was all good ...But dvd is alot clearer and more convient |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH replied on Mon Mar 23, 2009 @ 12:51pm |
 Coolness: 227200 | Originally Posted By LYNZYN
it also doesn't help when the dvd is cratched and can't watch the movie....Vhs unless the film is ripped out or watched too many times it was all good ...But dvd is alot clearer and more convient Sorry to say lynn, but, you obviously haven't read the thread. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Holly_Golightly replied on Mon Mar 23, 2009 @ 1:16pm |
 Coolness: 159660 | i have so many great movies on vhs...and i have still vhs players who works good... when the video store i was working at in brooklyn made the complete transition 2 years ago i got loads of vhs for free!
also i like that i can find chef d'oeuvre for almost no money example of movies i bought for 1$ each!!! 1$$$$!!!! : morvern callar suspiria hate (la haine w/ subtitles!) paradise lost paris is burning roger & me all the awful truth coolection! an original vhs first edition of blood feast!!!! naked lunch rabid spider dead ringers pigalle shivers!!! texas chainsaw massacre and so much more... awwww i <3 going shopping for movies... i should go soon! i agree w/ screwhead i think the projection or support or medium use to watch a work can influence how we receive it.. and cinema is first made to be seen on a huge screen!!! i think this summer i'll do a cinema party and project movies on the side wall of the house! i can't wait! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Mon Mar 23, 2009 @ 3:47pm |
 Coolness: 167470 | maybe it's up to the filmmakers to compensate for the clarity of the new movie-watching-mediums by darkening the image, using the CG to fuzzy up some parts instead of making them "clear & realistic" etc...
that's the problem with over-production, everyone feels the need to follow suit. it's the same with metal and punk music; we don't want it to be super well produced and squeaky clean, damnit!... keep the prod dirty, so we don't have to watch movies on dirty old machines :P but at the same time, there is something psychological about dragging out the archaic versions of stuff to watch/listen...makes it creepier just to know that you're using an old cassette. or, you can just watch VHS rips on your DVD player ;) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Mar 23, 2009 @ 6:35pm |
| Coolness: 686515 | Originally Posted By BETTY_HAZE
i think this summer i'll do a cinema party and project movies on the side wall of the house! i can't wait! I was thinking of throwing something similar with the guys from Twisted Bass.. Since we have a soundsystem, just get a projector and a tarp, some chairs, and throwing an underground movie night in the tunnel.. I've already got a few movies picked out :P |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Samwise replied on Mon Mar 23, 2009 @ 7:22pm |
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Anyone? :P |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Mon Mar 23, 2009 @ 7:26pm |
| Coolness: 202150 | man I need to get one of those.. all my DVD's need rewinding |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kuzutetsu replied on Mon Mar 23, 2009 @ 9:46pm |
 Coolness: 133960 | The Last Quentin Tarantino Movie: Planet Terror, on DVD
have great grainy/old used/dusted roll film effects... maybe too much tho But its fucking true what your saying Screwhead I also have tons of movies that I still love to watch on VHS for certain parts were the tracking is off a bit in certain scenes and the colors are all bad contrast and grainy images... I have Evil Dead 2: Dead By Dawn on VHS and I saw Braindead/Dead Alive in french dubbed on VHS too, never watched it on DVD and I dont see why I should... I think for most Animes I like WAYYYYYYYY more DVDs though cuz its drawings thats not the same... but for 80's horror/sci-fi movies its true that VHS have that Nostalgic feel of it, specially when you watched the same tape over and over compared to a non-scratched DVD that will play exactly the same all the time... I remember Etienne from Marché Clandestin years ago talking how much his DBZ VHS copies have been rented often and ppl would just rew and ffw to the best battles scenes and theyre all fucked up haha! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Mar 23, 2009 @ 9:57pm |
| Coolness: 686515 | Originally Posted By KUZUTETSU
The Last Quentin Tarantino Movie: Planet Terror, on DVD have great grainy/old used/dusted roll film effects... maybe too much tho But its fucking true what your saying Screwhead I also have tons of movies that I still love to watch on VHS for certain parts were the tracking is off a bit in certain scenes and the colors are all bad contrast and grainy images... I have Evil Dead 2: Dead By Dawn on VHS and I saw Braindead/Dead Alive in french dubbed on VHS too, never watched it on DVD and I dont see why I should... I think for most Animes I like WAYYYYYYYY more DVDs though cuz its drawings thats not the same... but for 80's horror/sci-fi movies its true that VHS have that Nostalgic feel of it, specially when you watched the same tape over and over compared to a non-scratched DVD that will play exactly the same all the time... I remember Etienne from Marché Clandestin years ago talking how much his DBZ VHS copies have been rented often and ppl would just rew and ffw to the best battles scenes and theyre all fucked up haha! Yeah it worked for Planet Terror, a little too much at times, but it really had the feel down.. and LOL, man I used to go to Clandestin when they first opened and were Le Marche Noir, and then kept going when he was running weekly Magic tournaments ^_^ Etienne has always been cool as hell :P |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Tue Mar 24, 2009 @ 12:24am |
 Coolness: 132520 | i prefer anything " RF " for shure ,
the vertical / horizontal line , the image tumbling , even the voice thats image modulated or vice versa. it created a nice "blur" effect to explosion or fast scene , that made it look real , that when you drop on a too well define resolution , you start to see the " lie " of the image. now id like to add that my atari 's colour , same from the console to the xl or st atari puter, and as well as the amiga colours , thoses colours were better than any driven hd tv or what nut for being never even , they were like a psychedelik rainbow. id also think my analog oscilloscope is a million times win that if id get a lcd 1ghz oscilloscope for the headtrip. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey replied on Tue Mar 24, 2009 @ 3:25am |
 Coolness: 103690 | We should have drive-ins that plays nothing but old horror movies. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Tue Mar 24, 2009 @ 3:28am |
| Coolness: 686515 | Originally Posted By TREY
We should have drive-ins that plays nothing but old horror movies. That would be fucking awesome I seriously want to have an underground theater night some time this summer.. I've got a ton of great weird/old horror movies that most people have never seen.. |
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