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Insulted By A Comment From The Aired Bc Gang Police Report On Global
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Fri Mar 20, 2009 @ 11:22pm
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I'd like to see the look on a cop's face if he walked into a goth or fetish night.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Mar 20, 2009 @ 11:28pm
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LOL , or thoses mtl amateur nights...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» system_glitch replied on Fri Mar 20, 2009 @ 11:44pm
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Hmm, chief, there's no bling here. They're all naked ...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Mar 20, 2009 @ 11:47pm
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haha id get a camcorder and tape the bust, haha , all the cops with the blushy face, hard ons , and gizing their pants. not really looking ppl in the eyes. lol
Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Mar 20, 2009 @ 11:48pm
do you think they would " separate " the ... mm... action ?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Sat Mar 21, 2009 @ 4:32am
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Originally Posted By CUTTERHEAD

no they go in bar , if they see someone with too much bling , they kindly ask him to leave .


good, fucking bling is so passé anyways, the only guys who wear that shit nowadays are douchebags or those phony ass BC gangstars (what a joke)

don't need those assholes in the club, standing around with that fake ass bling bling like wtf?

everytime I see those guys I wanna smack them they're so wack

I hope they get arrested for their fashion crimes
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Sat Mar 21, 2009 @ 1:48pm
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Originally Posted By E73V3N

On peu abreger le debat en posant une question simple:
Est-ce que la lutte contre le gangs de rue, contre la violence dans les bars justifie qu'on
brime la libertee de se saouler de quelques thugs.
d'apres moi oui.


I agree with you on this. There is an incredible amount of gang violence going on in B.C (according to the news), and I believe these types of measures are justified. I don't necessarily agree with profiling people, but when it comes to crowded bars, removing unsavoury characters just may save the lives of innocent people.

It's not just about preventing a few dope dealers from slinging pot, or coke... It's about protecting the general public from being killed.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Sat Mar 21, 2009 @ 2:54pm
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you know everyone is talking about gang violence in Vancouver but i think it's all hype, i haven't really noticed anything...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Sat Mar 21, 2009 @ 3:01pm
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Well I dunno, I don't live there. It's not like Mexico or anything, but still...
[ www.theglobeandmail.com ]
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» E73V3N replied on Sat Mar 21, 2009 @ 3:31pm
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Originally Posted By CUTTERHEAD

> evelyn cest une politique du bc , les OWNER on pas le choix de suivre , pis yen on rien a battre. cest encore du shut up and pay and tough luck.

Je t'invite a lire l'article poster par mico. Les proprietaires de clubs et de restaurents ent ont apparement autant plein le cul des gangs de rue que la police.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Sat Mar 21, 2009 @ 3:42pm
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Originally Posted By E73V3N

On peu abreger le debat en posant une question simple:
Est-ce que la lutte contre le gangs de rue, contre la violence dans les bars justifie qu'on
brime la libertee de se saouler de quelques thugs.
d'apres moi oui.

Originally Posted By mico
I agree with you on this. There is an incredible amount of gang violence going on in B.C (according to the news), and I believe these types of measures are justified. I don't necessarily agree with profiling people, but when it comes to crowded bars, removing unsavoury characters just may save the lives of innocent people.

It's not just about preventing a few dope dealers from slinging pot, or coke... It's about protecting the general public from being killed.


Originally Posted By e73v3n
Je t'invite a lire l'article poster par mico. Les proprietaires de clubs et de restaurents ent ont apparement autant plein le cul des gangs de rue que la police.


i want to add again, that im in no way backing thugs, and im starting to see where , this isnt very different than closing down on dodgie ppl in a festival.

i was just insulted with the fact they base on aparances and clothing, where if you dont put the school uniform you get thrown out.

what else , a city of clones ? if they had more presence, and touch more the youth and invested in REALLY helping kids finishing their dream studies instead of just giving doctorates to doctors' kids , then maybe the whole dress code wouldnt be necessary at this point,

so like everybody im : "yea that makes sens, but ... "

i will read the article now.
Update » cutterhead wrote on Sat Mar 21, 2009 @ 8:31pm
no you know what, its unjustified still,

as with whats one rite now this guy would be in BC rite now, cops would be alowed to escort him out due to his apparance, and his " reflection of street gangs"




i was preping you guys to what will probably start to move over hear, because shit happens rite.

so how would you see this if a bunch of cops escorted our buddy here out of the saphir because he looks thuggy or to set and example to other or proove dominance.

you would have to leave , even with a cover payed you know that
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rave_dolphin replied on Sat Mar 21, 2009 @ 11:02pm
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I say welcome to that ! You see a hell's Angel tag on a lether jacket, you know who the guy is, and now, police can act on that since the anti-gang law. You see a thug with blings, you can't be 100% sure who he is, fine ... but you can 100% sure of who he hangs out with, and that if he's not a criminal, he knows people that are. Kick him out, friends will leave too.

Punks hang out mostly with punks, goths hang out mostly with goths, thugs hangs out mostly with thugs, and while it's true people can hang with many different people, if they adopt a style, it's because they feel closer to those people adopting that style.

Too bad for those correct individuals getting caught in the crossfires, street gangs are a bunch of mad dogs who do deserve a solid beating and, well ... that's what they're getting ! Blaming the police for that is like blaming them from beating the crap out of people attacking them in a manifestation. You cause trouble, or knowingly get yourself at the wrong place at the wrong time (or in the wrong clothes, wrong time in that case), accept the consequences.

We live in a society now, we have to think as a whole, there's too many f'ing humans on this blue ball to believe in the anarchist way of thinking anymore. If everyone would do as he wants, this place would become a hell hole in less than a week.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kuzutetsu replied on Sat Mar 21, 2009 @ 11:07pm
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bump
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Sat Mar 21, 2009 @ 11:40pm
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What next, seriously censorshit is dangerous so is prejudices, what next :

because i listen to " insane clown posse " and " the mentors " it could lee way to having my butt escorted out of any public place ?

there are other way to deal this matter.

this is going to backlash i tell you , good thing were good kids here in quebec, so any new law/bills could slip right by our noses without having to say shit.

meanwhile you hear "the force" abuse its power all the time , and little erika still could be anywhere.

i mean yay for security , boo to inconsideration. cause yea ppl has to turn back home because of dress code.

how would you feel if id escorted you out of the bar you hang out , away from your friends because they dont want you to socialise ? ( its the thug they dont want , but that could be anybody thats not a GAP clone )

yea this works for thugs AND anybody looking to APPARANT : meaning you have too much exposure there paranoid ass can start to think anything,

i thought the legal system was INNOCENT UNTIL PROOVEN GUILTY, else is blattant defacement.

were not in europe as i rememeber.
Update » cutterhead wrote on Sat Mar 21, 2009 @ 11:42pm
what else a permit for desssing up thugy for public performance ?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Sun Mar 22, 2009 @ 1:16am
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I think you're taking it a little too far, Cutterhead. After reading a few articles, and the Bar Watch document itself, [ www.nanaimo.ca ] it doesn't necessarily discriminate against anyone. It really puts emphasis on denying service to known gang members; those wearing gang colours, or those who are acting in an uncivil manner where there is known gang activity.

I see your point, but when it comes to peoples safety, this is far from extreme. What would be extreme would be taking down all the personal information of all patrons entering an establishment, or refusing you entry based on your skin colour. The way I perceive the whole ordeal, is that bar and club owners, where it is known that is there gang related activity are trying to gang members out. It was the same thing at Aria. After a man was stabbed, and beaten to death inside the club, you could no longer wear "thug" like clothing and had to have your picture taken. Why? Because it was too much of a risk to allow people who dress that way, or people who are known to be in a gang to be inside. You want to get inside that club? Don't dress that way.If you want to dress that way, don't go to that particular club. And by "that way" I mean: Gang colours, or attire that can be associated with gangs. It really is not that unreasonable.

I mean, all it really is is a dress code. Not some kind of government conspiracy to force you into wearing a uniform.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Sun Mar 22, 2009 @ 1:41am
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probably the situation isnt so , probably they reported shit, my response is towards what has been reported on global news.

> what cops said on tv
> what reporters said on tv
> towards the example they did live on tv, they asked a guy that looked too fresh for them to leave a bar , that they just entered. the guy wasnt on probation, it was an UNKNOWN RANDOM GUY.

i whished it was only towards known gang member , but since they cant know who are all the affiliates, or upcoming enemy crew or whatnot , they break down on anything that looks like it has too much money.

i understand what you said mico, im prepare to be wrong, but i still feel this is a disguised uniform.

did someone got to see that report ? i wonder if i can get it off their website or from youtube. anyone seeing this would have had its reservations .

maybe you and i dont have an agenda , but i see where there going with this , and scary, its the only thing i can feel towards this response.

so i guess yall saying a curfue would be acceptable too ?
Update » cutterhead wrote on Sun Mar 22, 2009 @ 1:44am
if the night are statistically more dangerous than days, a bill should be so that ppl go home before its dark .
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Sun Mar 22, 2009 @ 10:46am
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Originally Posted By SNAKEBITE

I say welcome to that ! You see a hell's Angel tag on a lether jacket, you know who the guy is, and now, police can act on that since the anti-gang law. You see a thug with blings, you can't be 100% sure who he is, fine ... but you can 100% sure of who he hangs out with, and that if he's not a criminal, he knows people that are. Kick him out, friends will leave too.

Punks hang out mostly with punks, goths hang out mostly with goths, thugs hangs out mostly with thugs, and while it's true people can hang with many different people, if they adopt a style, it's because they feel closer to those people adopting that style.

Too bad for those correct individuals getting caught in the crossfires, street gangs are a bunch of mad dogs who do deserve a solid beating and, well ... that's what they're getting ! Blaming the police for that is like blaming them from beating the crap out of people attacking them in a manifestation. You cause trouble, or knowingly get yourself at the wrong place at the wrong time (or in the wrong clothes, wrong time in that case), accept the consequences.

We live in a society now, we have to think as a whole, there's too many f'ing humans on this blue ball to believe in the anarchist way of thinking anymore. If everyone would do as he wants, this place would become a hell hole in less than a week.


nahhh

i agree with cutter,

Isn't part of our thing the fact that we accept people no matter what, you know no mater how they dress, or how they dance,

you know, like i might not be into bling (i only really wear earings) but if some dude wants to come to my party and dress like that i don't care, you know, like it's his thing so wtv...

the inclusion idea , no exclusion...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Sun Mar 22, 2009 @ 8:32pm
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amen , thanks basdini ,

i dont encourage ppl that commits crime. but i get insulted that after they get out of jail, its nearly impossible for them to get a job. i mean yea they should have tought about it first , thou its the same thing as cripple people . some of us think we would be better putting them out of misery and others would have a minimum of humanity.

its like were closing in more and more to that " Welcome to Gattaca " movie, man movies arent always 100% fiction, it used to be a way to pass leftist ideas to the mass that are over ruled by blind rightwings.
Update » cutterhead wrote on Sun Mar 22, 2009 @ 8:38pm
Police can claim they dont discriminate , but i heard people who caught the radio in their car refeering to people that arent back to " autre-que " in french meaning other than . without saying white at the end.

normally this happen when the station doesnt have much ethnies inside . but it happens.

they are drilled to apply the rules , do their day, not die and not thinking further.

see what happened with that policeman who reported the police firearm racket in quebec city.
Update » cutterhead wrote on Sun Mar 22, 2009 @ 8:40pm
i just want respect. not for me , for everyone, im prepare to respect a police man , i apreciate them " protecting " us . thou the opposite happens a little too much. and their attitude , if id had said this all to a policeman my ass would be in jail right now. just because they would claim my attitude is negative or somehting. been there.
Update » cutterhead wrote on Sun Mar 22, 2009 @ 8:43pm
not in jail , but near a ride down the station for looking up for a punk they tryed to " dominate" for no reason than " cleaning " the city.

if you are around the jacques cartier bridge during the summer time you probably see this happens a little too much.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Luna-1 replied on Mon Mar 23, 2009 @ 2:25pm
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dood i live in bc and whenever we got to a club downtown now they scan you id and pout your name into a database ... so next time you go to nay other bar ( they are all using the same datbasew/ RcMp for all bars n clubs) well it goes faster to go in but at the same time cops come and pick up troble people

i cna find it a police states !

so far like so many shooting around where i live and im in the suburd ... makes no sense !
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» system_glitch replied on Mon Mar 23, 2009 @ 2:41pm
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Naaaah.

Jessie, that's because they want to protect their sound systems from you.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Luna-1 replied on Mon Mar 23, 2009 @ 2:44pm
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hahahaha maybe it is .... ! lol no but seriously goign to clubs here is just a pain so long line-up and the whole i take your picture thing and scan you id ... its all lames ...
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