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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ONE.LAB.RAT replied on Sat Mar 14, 2009 @ 4:43am
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1 word "bicycle"
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» karma.millie replied on Sat Mar 14, 2009 @ 10:36am
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Originally Posted By STRANGEDAHLIA

Millie, good for you, as long as you're not complaining :)


Why would I complain I pay half *teheh* ^_^
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» system_glitch replied on Sat Mar 14, 2009 @ 10:41am
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Originally Posted By KARMA.MILLIE

Why would I complain I pay half *teheh* ^_^


Exactly, but the OP is whining because he got caught being stupid.
Completely different ballgame.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sat Mar 14, 2009 @ 12:19pm
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I've just realised that we get this exact same thread like every couple of years.. I swear this is at least the third time I've seen this topic brought up on [ rave.ca ]
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» system_glitch replied on Sat Mar 14, 2009 @ 12:21pm
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Proof that drugs indeed turn people into retards.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear replied on Sat Mar 14, 2009 @ 12:59pm
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I dunno why people are so scared of the police following them or worried about if they see a message on the site... I think TV is really getting to people's heads and people are being brainwashed to think that police are watching them everywhere.

Get over it, they don't care about you. People are doing illegal things every day with no problems... I would fight the fine, even if you loose you can always fight it again 3 times over. If you fight it, the fine will never go up. Eventually there will be a no show or something and you will win.

Seriously media brainwashes people. Learn to see around it, cause lately I've been seeing way way way too many people paranoid about stupid shit which isn't true.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Sat Mar 14, 2009 @ 1:02pm
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yeah^, just keep fighting if you don't want to pay it. that might waste some tax $, but - meh...

bullshit, makes the wheels on the justice system go 'round and 'round....
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear replied on Sat Mar 14, 2009 @ 1:09pm
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I really hated it at Hidden Oasis when the police came everyone fuckin' left with their tails hidden under their asses... Why are you people scared of fuckin police officers... If no one left we could have continued the party most probably. Media really seems to work at making people scared of them. If no one left they would never have found the location. The party could go one by lowering the volume.

Seriously everyone should stop being scared of them and living their lives. It's true most police officers are full of themselves, they think they are gods but it's because that's how they are trained to be. And they train you normal people to become fuckin idiots and scared of everything you do by using the media outlets for that.

No one is after you, no one cares what you do and chances are the only way anyone would ever be caught for doing something which is not in the green zone would be cause someone tattled on you or you have super duper bad luck.

Stop thinking that people are following you, stop thinking that you can't do anything out of the normal and stop acting how the media tells you to act.

I'm really starting to have it with people fuckin paranoiing all the time.
I'm feeling nuclear right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» E73V3N replied on Sat Mar 14, 2009 @ 1:38pm
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Back on topic, even if u have this photocopy of an adult pass and go to court with the argument u stated above, u will loose. I had contested 2 tickets in court, and saw at least a dozen of cases before mine, and everyone who pleaded ignorance or accidental mistake lost theirs cases. The best for u would be to contest, wait for the court confirmation while piling up the money (this could take a good 6 month) when u receive the confirmation, you will have the possibility to ctrl-z your contestation. Hopefully, by that time, u will have enough money to pay. U can also pay this fine with monthly payments. Good luck !
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey replied on Sat Mar 14, 2009 @ 2:17pm
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Last time someone stood up against the popo in Saint-Michel, he got shot dead.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sat Mar 14, 2009 @ 5:29pm
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I don't understand why people are afraid of cops.. Cops are people, they can be intimidated and controlled the same way any person can be. Just seem more in control than they are and they won't try and fuck with you.

Also if you see cops assaulting someone in a way that seems over the top, you SHOULD try and do something about it.. If you can't (which is the majority of cases since in our controlled society the cops can have handguns and we can't) you should try and document what happened ( even just write it down with every detail and the time) and inform the media and others, and post about it online and through other means.

Or you could be a coward, your choice.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» system_glitch replied on Sat Mar 14, 2009 @ 5:33pm
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Yeah, well, a different story when you're living in a thirld world country but hey, gotta admit that cops in Canada/Montreal are not much of a threat to anyone.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sat Mar 14, 2009 @ 5:54pm
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well it will get that bad if cowards and scared soccer moms are setting public policy.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» system_glitch replied on Sat Mar 14, 2009 @ 6:07pm
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I still doubt that, but really hope it never happens.

The only thing that makes is not much of an issue here is that the number of cops is so small that you can go weeks without even crossing one. And if you ever run into problems, most of the time you can bail out of it with an underhanded bill or two. Just pray he's not either an incorruptible, or smarter than you (arrest you for bribing and corruption, and then extort all you have to set you free).

Needless to say, if you're a gweilo, you stay low profile :)
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BadApples replied on Sun Mar 15, 2009 @ 3:36pm
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Originally Posted By E73V3N

Back on topic, even if u have this photocopy of an adult pass and go to court with the argument u stated above, u will loose. I had contested 2 tickets in court, and saw at least a dozen of cases before mine, and everyone who pleaded ignorance or accidental mistake lost theirs cases. The best for u would be to contest, wait for the court confirmation while piling up the money (this could take a good 6 month) when u receive the confirmation, you will have the possibility to ctrl-z your contestation. Hopefully, by that time, u will have enough money to pay. U can also pay this fine with monthly payments. Good luck !


My defense is not based around claiming ignorance. I'm aware that wont' work. I will state that i did infact have the proper fare and state that my anxiety issures ( will have a doctors note ) and the aggressive nature of the stm employees induced an anxiety attack which would explain why i couldn't explain it then and there. I technically ( they can't prove i didnt' ) had the proper fare thus i really didn't break any laws. I think the court will somehow have pity on a full time student harrased to the point of a panic attack. I also have a witness and i also look like the kind of person that helps grandmothers cross the street.

Didn't think i would upset this many people. Well if anyone is in a position to help me but needs some motivation , i can give you 40$.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Sun Mar 15, 2009 @ 3:49pm
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Originally Posted By BADAPPLES

I also have a witness and i also look like the kind of person that helps grandmothers cross the street.


LOL !

" Mr. Judge, I urge you to look at me. Look very hard. Do I look like the kind of person who would do such a thing ? Come on, look at my face. Is this the face of a person who would consciously give the wrong fare to this fine upstanding establishment that is the STM ?

Sir, I honestly believe you know that, deep in your heart, I couldn've done that. Heck, if I was sitting in your chair and I'd look at someone like me, I'd strongly consider letting me go with a warning."

Good luck with that ! :D
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BadApples replied on Sun Mar 15, 2009 @ 3:55pm
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Originally Posted By V.2.0.MINUS.1

Good luck with that ! :D


Well it was that or the quantum physic defense insisting my movement past the turnstile was not volunrarily but rather a random quantum displacement. Unfortuantely the universe was not so kind to return me back to my point of departure so i could properly pay my fare.

I'm not trying to win an award on legal defense techniques, i just really don't want to pay the ticket.

anyways, if anyone can help me, i can givey you 40$.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» system_glitch replied on Sun Mar 15, 2009 @ 3:58pm
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Originally Posted By BADAPPLES

Well it was that or the quantum physic defense insisting my movement past the turnstile was not volunrarily but rather a random quantum displacement. Unfortuantely the universe was not so kind to return me back to my point of departure so i could properly pay my fare.

I'm not trying to win an award on legal defense techniques, i just really don't want to pay the ticket.

anyways, if anyone can help me, i can givey you 40$.


Or you can try and be a man instead of acting like a kid that got caught by his parents stealing cookies from the jar - pay the fine and stop whining/making stories.

The end.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BadApples replied on Sun Mar 15, 2009 @ 4:03pm
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i thought i was quite clear about my financial situation. If i had the money , i would, but i don't. I'm not whining, i'm not making excuses. I was quite clear in my statement that i realised i had screwed up. I am asking for help. Either you can or your can't.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Sun Mar 15, 2009 @ 4:03pm
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Originally Posted By BADAPPLES

i just really don't want to pay the ticket.


No one does but if you have to assume your actions if you got caught. You can't always have a "Get Out of Jail Free" card in life.
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