Getting The Most Out Of Serato
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Thu Mar 12, 2009 @ 4:36pm |
 Coolness: 146110 | so i just bought serato recently and i'am in the process of recording all my tunes,
a lot of people have said that serato is maybe the best thing to come out in terms of DJ equipment in the last 10 years, most people say that serato won't make a bad DJ good but it will make a good DJ better... So, does anybody have any advice on how to use serato to maximize it's potential as tool, how can i get the most out of my serato experience...? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» clown replied on Thu Mar 12, 2009 @ 4:48pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Thu Mar 12, 2009 @ 4:58pm |
 Coolness: 686500 | Originally Posted By BASDINI
So, does anybody have any advice on how to use serato to maximize it's potential as tool, how can i get the most out of my serato experience...? Follow the instructions at the back of the book.. I don't remember what it's called, but the stuff to calibrate it.. Don't be running any other programs, you don't want to risk having a conflict crash or have something else spike in memory/CPU use and make your tunes stutter.. Also, your needles have to be really good and not in shady quality; the way Serato works is that one side (I never remember which does it, so I'm just going to arbitrarily use Left and Right, but it might be the opposite) makes a constant tone, and the other makes one that is constantly changing. So, left (maybe) channel is putting out a constant tone; since Serato knows that the left side is constant, it can judge how far up or down from 0% you are, and it therefore knows how much frequency to compensate for when reading the right channel. The right channel constantly changes in pitch by the tinyest amount, so by listening to the pitch on the right and the pitch on the left it can figgure out exactly where you are on the record.. So, if your needles or RCA cables have the slightest of issues, this is going to fuck up the tracking of Serato and you're randomly gonna jump through tunes or have the speed jump or drop for a fraction of a second once in a while.. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» davesob replied on Thu Mar 12, 2009 @ 7:08pm |
 Coolness: 53865 | For Me these are the Top 3 things that make SERATO so special.
1- Being able to set cue points. you can set upto 5 cue points per track that can be triggered on your key board. Or if you play your records of relative mode, you can just drop the needle and it will play at your 1st que point. Apparently Quest Love Djs like this, and it allows him to have all his tracks ready at the right spot and he just drops them in on the fly. much faster Personally I also like to scratch and cue paints is great for that, because you can find the part you want right away. 2- Organization. You can find music with a simple search, you can categorize your music any way you want. You can sort your music by style, title, BPM, key, etc.... You can build crates for specific gigs, and when your done keep it or delete it and you don't have to put your songs back where they came from. It takes a little work to get organized, but its amazing when its done. 3- Harcmonic Mixing!!!! Because you can lock the Key, and you can write comments in the track info, then sort them by comment, you can easily Key your entire catalogue, then play tracks in the same or related keys....Check out the site [ www.mixedinkey.com ] I bought the software for $50 US that analyzes and Keys your tracks about 6 months ago, and it has been the single biggest step I have ever made as a DJ. Mixing tracks in relative keys in my opinion is the greatest thing to come out of this "Serato" technology. Its the future of DJing, and although its changes the way you mix, I think its a positive change. Some people might think its cheap, but technology is all about advancing, and trust me, your mixes will improve dramatically. It removes so much of the guess work and the hours of testing tracks to see if they work together. There are lots of other amazing features too: - looping - the visual readout that can help people get their mixes beatmatched faster. You could literally play a set without headphones. Save your ears. - all the keyboard short cuts, which I don't use too much but can be used in amazing ways. Aparently DJ AM is able to do some really cool stuff with them, but I never saw him. - The fact that you can basically make your own vinyls. Scratch tools, etc... Read the manual cover to cover...unless you like to figure things out yourself. There are alos a bunch of random cool trick you can find out about on the web...like this auto breakdown thing, and you can press a few keys and play pong, turning the record controls the paddle I was going to write a quick response, but there are just too many cool things to mention. The Serato forums can be a good place to pick up tricks too. Enjoy DAve Update » davesob wrote on Thu Mar 12, 2009 @ 7:18pm [ www.rave.ca ]
I made this mix and mixedinkey saved me tons of time trying to find the right tracks to play together. I dont use it religiously for every mix, but its just another tool at your disposal. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MURDOCK_ROCK replied on Thu Mar 12, 2009 @ 7:14pm |
 Coolness: 84785 | the mic input looks really cool for live sampling. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast replied on Thu Mar 12, 2009 @ 9:53pm |
 Coolness: 92300 | In the same path of ideas, I already have a good sound interface with more than 4 analog ins/out. Does anyone thinks Mixvibes (without their sound interface) would be a good way to go? I know all the basic features it have to offer (very similar to serato and all the fat cats out there without the live sampling feature Murdock_Rock just talked about...which would be wicked to have) but does it works any good?
Don't wanna hijack Basdini's thread either ;) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kishmay_Pinas replied on Fri Mar 13, 2009 @ 9:32am |
 Coolness: 104165 | Find the pong easter egg, and play pong with your turntables |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ufot replied on Fri Mar 13, 2009 @ 12:47pm |
 Coolness: 94010 | hahaha... clown beat me on this one....
Ufot-fisher price doesnt just make toys for kids |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» clown replied on Sat Mar 14, 2009 @ 12:04pm |
| Coolness: 222675 | It's such a revelation to DJ'ing.. i mean, all it's missing is a "Random track" button and a "be the Dj" automation and you'd have time for sex durring your DJ sets.
it's all about having your legs up on the desk while you work.. ;) seriously, what's the point ?? i mean, say it's to save money on music if you don't like buying CD's or Wax.. tell me it's great if your def (cool visuals)... but c'mon man... you need a Green light to flash on your screen telling you when "it thinks" the best moment to pop in your next track is ??? sheesh .. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sat Mar 14, 2009 @ 12:29pm |
| Coolness: 686500 | Originally Posted By CLOWN
It's such a revelation to DJ'ing.. i mean, all it's missing is a "Random track" button and a "be the Dj" automation and you'd have time for sex durring your DJ sets. it's all about having your legs up on the desk while you work.. ;) seriously, what's the point ?? i mean, say it's to save money on music if you don't like buying CD's or Wax.. tell me it's great if your def (cool visuals)... but c'mon man... you need a Green light to flash on your screen telling you when "it thinks" the best moment to pop in your next track is ??? sheesh .. I think you've got Serato mixed up with Traktor; Traktor is the one with the "beatmatch" button, and you can assign tracks a "grid" like if you were doing a mix in Ableton, so everything will be nice and quantized when you "mix" and you don't have to listen to your track or actually know them to know when to release the next track to mix.. The only real differences between Serato and actual vinyl is that you can loop sections or set cue-points (which you can do with CDJ-1000 for the cue+loop and 800 for loops) and you can actually see the full waveform of the track, but then most vinyl DJs know how to read their records like that anyways.. Hell you can set yourself up one cue point on vinyl as welll, as long as you don't mind putting a sticker on your record :P |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ufot replied on Sat Mar 14, 2009 @ 4:05pm |
| Coolness: 94010 | Originally Posted By CLOWN
It's such a revelation to DJ'ing.. i mean, all it's missing is a "Random track" button and a "be the Dj" automation and you'd have time for sex durring your DJ sets. it's all about having your legs up on the desk while you work.. ;) seriously, what's the point ?? i mean, say it's to save money on music if you don't like buying CD's or Wax.. tell me it's great if your def (cool visuals)... but c'mon man... you need a Green light to flash on your screen telling you when "it thinks" the best moment to pop in your next track is ??? sheesh .. Ok, ok, Vinny (this applies to you too fred), you need to understand that the vast majority of dj's I know as well as myself, do NOT use the beatmatch or auto synch features in Traktor... furhtermore, I challenge you to accomplish 1/4 of the things that you can in traktor simply on vinyl; try extending a track for several minutes, or just looping the basseline or double layering effects or live remixing or mini mixing... I understand you prefer the tradditional method of spinning, I respect that, it is an art form I hold in high regard myself, but, that being said, the methods are no longer stinted by the lack of inovation, and you need to take this new format and its possibilities/potential as an art form as well... I'm not saying that you aren't entitled to you're own opinion, but don't shit on what you don't understand unless want to be seen in that light... remember, ingnorance is BLISS.... Ufot-geez, stop the hate |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» clown replied on Sat Mar 14, 2009 @ 4:30pm |
| Coolness: 222675 | but why would anyone want to make techno tracks longer ?? unless you have a hard time beatmatching i don't see why we need to hear that "Heeyyy" sample another 12 times !!
the way i see it.. you still need either tables or CDJ's to use this AND you could also add a cool controller to the bill.. basically an extra expense i'm not willing to make. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ufot replied on Sat Mar 14, 2009 @ 4:42pm |
| Coolness: 94010 | Originally Posted By CLOWN
but why would anyone want to make techno tracks longer ?? unless you have a hard time beatmatching i don't see why we need to hear that "Heeyyy" sample another 12 times !! the way i see it.. you still need either tables or CDJ's to use this AND you could also add a cool controller to the bill.. basically an extra expense i'm not willing to make. well, having it as an option extends your capabilities as a performer, allows you a lighter and less limited selectah, and a lot of live remixing options you just don't have with traditional dj sets, so with a digital setup, you go oldskool and new skool all in the same set if you wanted... and as far as extending tracks, its not about hearing the same samples for longer, but rather extending mixes then setting loop cues for larger buildups or breakdowns, even doubling up, throw in effects and you create a virtual wall of sound, get a controller and chop the screen into 4 inputs than your only limitation is your imagination, its not longer about playing full tracks, its cutting the parts from tracks that you want and meshing them with parts from other tracks, samples, fx etc... Ufot-technology, our greatest gift, our greatest sin |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sat Mar 14, 2009 @ 7:58pm |
 Coolness: 202135 | live remixing is what differentiates play list whores from real talented DJs.
It's ALMOST as cool as a live show. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Sat Mar 14, 2009 @ 8:41pm |
| Coolness: 146110 | honestly for me the whole thing is laziness thing, i hate carrying records, they just weren't meant to move around the world with you, their heavy and bulky to carry,
the reason i think serato is cool is because it preserves the best aspects of DJing (touching wax) but it allows it to be digital. It gives all the people who consider themselves purists to have a sort of digital option... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sun Mar 15, 2009 @ 4:28am |
| Coolness: 202135 | It makes more sense than using cds.. if you are going for a digital format you might as well have the data stored on a computer |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Sun Mar 15, 2009 @ 10:17am |
 Coolness: 167455 | agreed.
on the other hand, you get the crappiness of having the 'puter crash & the shitiness of having the needle fuck up. also, you have to set up turntables, and a sound card and a laptop. you end up with the best and worst of both worlds. plus, it's getting pretty annoying to set shit up these days*, even if you don't have 'lives' to set; now we have to plug in the TTs, the CDs, and the PCs, not to mention leave pace for those laptops and wait until the DJ shows up before plugging them in. (and the TT needles have to be exaggeratedly 'pristine') ---> *no offense Drixel, it'll be my pleasure to set up serato for/with you at rewire :P <3 i'm not a big purist, but i'm waiting for a better interface before getting too far into "digital mixing". serato: trying desperately to reconcile digital and organic. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MelooDie replied on Sun Mar 15, 2009 @ 12:33pm |
 Coolness: 249485 | Originally Posted By BASDINI
honestly for me the whole thing is laziness thing, i hate carrying records, they just weren't meant to move around the world with you, their heavy and bulky to carry, the reason i think serato is cool is because it preserves the best aspects of DJing (touching wax) but it allows it to be digital. It gives all the people who consider themselves purists to have a sort of digital option... + what is amazing ( not mentionned here yet ) is that you can play your regular vinyls by just switching phono/line mode. So ,this is the best you can blend your oldschool vinyls with your new mp3 you just bought. Digital mind/ vinyl soul. I,m getting ok with the cdj's but i still really don't like it. What make me more laugh about all this CLown.You mix cdjs, where the bpm is written.Wtf does it change if it's writing on your machine or on my laptop.And the only people i know who use the beatmatch thing is Dirty Licious because he plays with the VCI 100 and can play 4 tracks at the same time and cut part of it etc..Re-editing track like Milton was talking about.you can do beat juggling as well ,it'S fucking amazing.I'M tired of reading shitty arguments .As for bringing laptop + traktor ( or serato ) more expensive ,maybe.But my lil back prefers bringing a lil box and a laptop compared to 30-40 vinyls who cost me anyway,20$ around for each so,600-to 800$ right there.You guyz should get new arguments ,this is getting really annoying. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sun Mar 15, 2009 @ 2:15pm |
| Coolness: 202135 | you could use a photo/line switch with anything. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Sun Mar 15, 2009 @ 2:49pm |
| Coolness: 146110 | ahem scott i believe it's pronounced 'phono',
anyway, can someone explain to me how you can sort of 'go beyond vinyl' with serato, like live sampling and stuff...? you have to understand i have been so anti technology until just a few years ago... |
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