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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» sublimestyle replied on Thu Feb 12, 2009 @ 1:05pm |
 Coolness: 41625 | wow... infinite you say..
*bows before the great vinyl* ive found a new god. but lets say for example you go vinyl to digital at the highest bitrate possible, what would you get? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Thu Feb 12, 2009 @ 1:16pm |
 Coolness: 686305 | Originally Posted By SUBLIMESTYLE
but lets say for example you go vinyl to digital at the highest bitrate possible, what would you get? What's the difference between unlimited and limited? Go outside and look up in the sky. Then go in and look at your ceiling. Which one looks nicer? Which one lets you see further? Same thing with Vinyl Vs. Digital.. WAV/FLAC/OGG are as good quality as you're gonna get, they've got a much higher frequency range than MP3, even a 320 one. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Thu Feb 12, 2009 @ 1:22pm |
 Coolness: 153720 | wav @ 44.1 khz, you get you get around 1411 kbps ("cd standard")
wav @ 48 khz you get around 1536 kbps ("music production standard") wav @ 96 khz you get around 3000 something kbps ("audio dvd standard") wav @ 192 khz you get around much more you will ever need HAHA (its the orchestra recoding standard, its pretty new on the market, nobody uses it really much) so the "biggest" mp3 is 320 kbps, that means 4 times less quality than a "normal" wav file but thats in the digital domain, the restriction is how much 0's and 1's (binary codes) there is per seconds vinyl is analog, it doesnt work by "bitrates", the restriction is physical, means the quality of the vinyl, the quality of the pressing, the quality of the original file that has been used for the pressing, the wearing on the vinyl, the quality of the needle and all the componants made for playing the vinyl. there is no better than the other, only preferences, and limitations. digital has less limitations overall, but can be really worst! so you can rip your vinyl at an mp3 of 24 kbps, it will sound shit, or you can rip it at 320 kbps, it will sound good, 192 will sound "ok" but wav is the best. but wav is like 10 times bigger in file format, id reccomend mp3 224 kbps which is the best ratio for quality and file size, or 320, anything below 224 is ok to listen, but dont play it on a big sound system, you will hear the "mp3" deformed sounds. i gotta go to school, more to come later! btw, welcome aboard! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» sublimestyle replied on Thu Feb 12, 2009 @ 1:23pm |
| Coolness: 41625 | i dont mean vinyl vs. digital, i mean i know that vinyl is infinitely better (as ive just learned :P) but, my question, rephrased, is
if you transfer vinyl to digital, in its highest bitrate, what would that bitrate be? (i feel my curiosity is creating a fuss) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Thu Feb 12, 2009 @ 1:28pm |
| Coolness: 686305 | Originally Posted By SUBLIMESTYLE
i dont mean vinyl vs. digital, i mean i know that vinyl is infinitely better (as ive just learned :P) but, my question, rephrased, is if you transfer vinyl to digital, in its highest bitrate, what would that bitrate be? (i feel my curiosity is creating a fuss) It's whatever you set it to be. If you record a vinyl and save it as a 192 mp3, that's how high it's going to be.. If you save it as a 320, that's how high it's gonna be.. If you save it as a wav/flac, it'll be 4 times more than the 320.. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» sublimestyle replied on Thu Feb 12, 2009 @ 1:32pm |
| Coolness: 41625 | hmmmm. interesting. well i learned something today. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Thu Feb 12, 2009 @ 1:36pm |
 Coolness: 510275 | haven't listened cause I probably won't notice any mistakes, I mean, it's hardcore so it's one big mistake to begin with (I kid I kid)
but you mentioned making mistakes in it? and it's 18 minutes long? re-record at LEAST an hour and don't release until it's 99% flawless, I wouldn't take anyone seriously until at least that is met |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Thu Feb 12, 2009 @ 2:33pm |
 Coolness: 109520 | Use FLAC ! Although keep a separate MP3 library for your portable player as FLAC will have it's hard drive spinning much more and eat your battery. *chomp* *chomp* |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» FRANKB replied on Thu Feb 12, 2009 @ 9:25pm |
 Coolness: 104050 | jordan if u need any help u can always come to my place and i can explain u whatever. Update » FRANKB wrote on Thu Feb 12, 2009 @ 9:27pm Once sublimestyle get's his mixing to be tighter y'all should book him he's a cool guy. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Fri Feb 13, 2009 @ 10:00am |
| Coolness: 153720 | Originally Posted By SUBLIMESTYLE
i dont mean vinyl vs. digital, i mean i know that vinyl is infinitely better (as ive just learned :P) but, my question, rephrased, is if you transfer vinyl to digital, in its highest bitrate, what would that bitrate be? (i feel my curiosity is creating a fuss) the purpose of my post was to explain you the differences between the compression in digital format. not to say who is better than who, its always down to personal choices. if you need an answer that doesnt make you think, id say rip them at mp3 320 kbps or 224, but i wanted to make you think about all the possibilities and their strength and weaknesses =P in fact vinyl isnt infititely better, its way more limited and can be worn out, so, for MY personnal choice, i dont like vinyl THAT much (yes i have and play some), but for these reasons, i prefer digital, but vinyl isnt limited in digital data (0's and 1's) so the quality could be higher. but only could, because nowadays, vinyl are sometime pressed like shit and sounds worst than a 128 kbps mp3. its all down to personal choice, i wanted to make you think about the subject, to inform yourself. i could say, rip them all to 128 kbps, and if you'd followed me blindly, youd get shitty quality mp3's. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» sublimestyle replied on Fri Feb 13, 2009 @ 12:55pm |
| Coolness: 41625 | ty for your support frank, ill keep your invitation in mind :P
and ty for making me think deadfunk, its never regretful to do so. i know im way too early in this whole business to be thinking too far but, i think i now understand the pros/cons between both media types, and will keep this in mind along my journeys as an aspiring disc jockeyman. its you guys who are gonna educate me, :) power to the people |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Tue Feb 17, 2009 @ 12:33pm |
 Coolness: 132310 | Originally Posted By SUBLIMESTYLE
i dont mean vinyl vs. digital, i mean i know that vinyl is infinitely better (as ive just learned :P) but, my question, rephrased, is if you transfer vinyl to digital, in its highest bitrate, what would that bitrate be? (i feel my curiosity is creating a fuss) there is a technique known to surpress noise, (this can NOT be done for mixing) if you playback the record at HALF of its speed (for 45 rpm its 22.5 rpm ) or (for 33 rppm its 16.5 rpm) then you record on an ADAT recording at half speed. when you will playback at its normall speed it will surpress the tape carrier frequency by doubling its frequency thus sending it out of audible range ( but a pro will still hear it ) anyways im saying this because to answering you question i would record at maximum quality, a turnatable palying at half the speed. then i would repitch using the audio software. in somecase you can gain a few more quick details this and there , but since its an analog techniuque if you compare both (that technique or just plain maximum record at normal speed) the recording should be the same , but i might be worse or might be better depending on how you got the endproduct back to normal speed. just use a good needle (dusted off) a clean record, on a hard and resonance-coupling free surface. and record full quality. you cant go wrong with maximum data logging with a vinyl. a vinyl, its all good |
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