Pola: The Movie
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Mon Jan 26, 2009 @ 2:09pm |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Mon Jan 26, 2009 @ 2:09pm |
Originally Posted By VEGANNIBAL
Maybe we could make a movie about the government's wrongful oppression against raves that has dissolved the scene and molded people away from the lifestyle and philosophies (in most places), and how Quebec is interesting because we have for the most part been spared of that here. Good idea. Its funny that so many peoples get on there high horses about drugs at raves. The drugs are a social lubricant in the same as alcohol in bars. Peoples go to bars for all sorts of reasons: to dance , to see a show, to play video poker, but take away the alcohol and your venue closes the same week. Same for raves, take away the lubricant and your scene will turn into a rusty bicycle chain. There are plenty of situations and contexts to be sober in life, yet very few where you can get high, lets not pretend that raves aren't one of them. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Mon Jan 26, 2009 @ 2:14pm |
Originally Posted By VEGANNIBAL
Maybe we could make a movie about the government's wrongful oppression against raves that has dissolved the scene and molded people away from the lifestyle and philosophies (in most places), and how Quebec is interesting because we have for the most part been spared of that here. Yes and maybe we should also make a movie about how PEOPLE dissolved the scene through greed, blatant backstabbing and lack of ethics. The government clearly had its role but the picture seems far greater than initially thought. | |
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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» system_glitch replied on Mon Jan 26, 2009 @ 2:18pm |
I rave sober. Got nothing wrong with people who choose to do drugs in rave. But if you're just high to the point of being annoying, I'll find a way to get away.
My biggest peeve would be that most people go to their first raves, and drop pills. Yeah, I know, nothing wrong here. We've probably all done it. Heck, everyone should do it - I really believe it's part of the eye-opening experience. And a nice way to tell the new kids; "Welcome to our world". The problem comes into play when people start associating enjoying the party with popping pills, and the belief that the more you pop, the better the party will be. I don't even know how many times people told me they couldn't rave without drug, that they'd fall asleep, couldn't enjoy it as much, etc. I party sober by choice. Sure, my first sober experiences were fucked up. I'd spend half the party sitting in a corner completely burned out, falling asleep then waking up to the sound of the bass 2 minutes later. But guess what ... you quickly get over it. Now, I can go to a party and enjoy myself all night long, with or without drugs. And for those who'd go ahead and say stupid shit like - yeah, well I'd rather do drugs and not feel like shit during a party I paid for .... Sure, go ahead. Spend even more money to buy your fix. Then come to me the day after the party telling me how shitty and fucked up you feel on that e-down. I guess what I'm saying is ... if you want to do drugs. Go ahead. But at least try partying sober once in a while. You're not making a choice until you've seen your options. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Vegan replied on Mon Jan 26, 2009 @ 2:30pm |
Originally Posted By V.2.0.MINUS.1
Yes and maybe we should also make a movie about how PEOPLE dissolved the scene through greed, blatant backstabbing and lack of ethics. >>>lack of ethics which are encouraged by meth etc and being all strung out on random mixtures of crap (mostly meth) when you think you're doing MDMA. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» system_glitch replied on Mon Jan 26, 2009 @ 2:38pm |
Originally Posted By VEGANNIBAL
>>>lack of ethics which are encouraged by meth etc and being all strung out on random mixtures of crap (mostly meth) when you think you're doing MDMA. Sorry, but I know a lot of people who would clearly lack ethics in any circumstances or situations, without ever doing any drugs. Can't blame 'em for everything. Human is born. Human is stupid. Human does drugs. See where I'm going here? | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Mon Jan 26, 2009 @ 2:53pm |
Originally Posted By STRANGEDAHLIA
I rave sober. Got nothing wrong with people who choose to do drugs in rave. But if you're just high to the point of being annoying, I'll find a way to get away. My biggest peeve would be that most people go to their first raves, and drop pills. Yeah, I know, nothing wrong here. We've probably all done it. Heck, everyone should do it - I really believe it's part of the eye-opening experience. And a nice way to tell the new kids; "Welcome to our world". The problem comes into play when people start associating enjoying the party with popping pills, and the belief that the more you pop, the better the party will be. I don't even know how many times people told me they couldn't rave without drug, that they'd fall asleep, couldn't enjoy it as much, etc. I party sober by choice. Sure, my first sober experiences were fucked up. I'd spend half the party sitting in a corner completely burned out, falling asleep then waking up to the sound of the bass 2 minutes later. But guess what ... you quickly get over it. Now, I can go to a party and enjoy myself all night long, with or without drugs. And for those who'd go ahead and say stupid shit like - yeah, well I'd rather do drugs and not feel like shit during a party I paid for .... + 100000 points qft..i always thought raving sober just wasn't the norm, but when you start doing it, you notice how many ravers are actually sober; and its a lot of us. Having the option to rave sober is awesome...I actually really like it. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Vegan replied on Mon Jan 26, 2009 @ 3:31pm |
Originally Posted By STRANGEDAHLIA
Sorry, but I know a lot of people who would clearly lack ethics in any circumstances or situations, without ever doing any drugs. Can't blame 'em for everything. Human is born. Human is stupid. Human does drugs. See where I'm going here? Oh I agree, I never said that drugs MAKE people have lack of ethics, but certain ones do ENCOURAGE a lack of ethics. There is too strong of a relation to ignore. This is coming from someone who has a deep personal history with meth users. Originally Posted By STRANGEDAHLIA
My biggest peeve would be that most people go to their first raves, and drop pills. Yeah, I know, nothing wrong here. We've probably all done it. Heck, everyone should do it - I really believe it's part of the eye-opening experience. And a nice way to tell the new kids; "Welcome to our world". but why does *that* have to be the "welcome to our world"? How is that a nice way to tell them welcome? Getting them all scribbled up on a bunch of toxic shit that they don't even know about, that they don't even understand what is happening chemically to their brains? Originally Posted By STRANGEDAHLIA
I don't even know how many times people told me they couldn't rave without drug, that they'd fall asleep, couldn't enjoy it as much, etc. I agree, it's beyond annoying every time I hear that. As if the human body isn't capable of dancing and hanging out for several hours. It's ironic how I'm the one still dancing at 8am till the last song, and always sober. I'm not a fricking supernatural being (ok, well in all fairness I AM a vegan ;). | |
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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear replied on Mon Jan 26, 2009 @ 5:56pm |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» system_glitch replied on Mon Jan 26, 2009 @ 6:48pm |
but why does *that* have to be the "welcome to our world"? How is that a nice way to tell them welcome? Getting them all scribbled up on a bunch of toxic shit that they don't even know about, that they don't even understand what is happening chemically to their brains? Let's face it - Ecstasy brings you in a different state that most people are not even aware of - and unable to reach/experience without the use of chemical aids. Saying that "they" have no clue what they're taking and what it does to their body seems to be a judgement call on your part. Obviously you've had really bad experience with drug users (abusers?) in the past which I can not relate to. But I have a very "shamanic" view on drug usage ... I believe that in the right context, they can be used to cure and enlighten, allowing people to break free of their own limitations and gain a different perspective on things. Just like they can easily become a very destructive force when approached by an imbalanced person looking for new ways to escape their own reality. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Mon Jan 26, 2009 @ 6:51pm |
Originally Posted By STRANGEDAHLIA
Let's face it - Ecstasy brings you in a different state that most people are not even aware of - and unable to reach/experience without the use of chemical aids. Saying that "they" have no clue what they're taking and what it does to their body seems to be a judgement call on your part. Obviously you've had really bad experience with drug users (abusers?) in the past which I can not relate to. But I have a very "shamanic" view on drug usage ... I believe that in the right context, they can be used to cure and enlighten, allowing people to break free of their own limitations and gain a different perspective on things. Just like they can easily become a very destructive force when approached by an imbalanced person looking for new ways to escape their own reality. qft Man, you are full of wisdom today | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» system_glitch replied on Mon Jan 26, 2009 @ 6:56pm |
Gamos, that's what you get when I'm sleep deprivated for over 24 hours.
Can't work because my brain shuns me. So I end up spending waaaaay too much time browsing [ rave.ca ] | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Mon Jan 26, 2009 @ 6:59pm |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» system_glitch replied on Mon Jan 26, 2009 @ 7:06pm |
Hey! I'm always smart.
Just that I don't usually hang around [ rave.ca ] long enough to display my smarts, bleh. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Mon Jan 26, 2009 @ 7:08pm |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Mon Jan 26, 2009 @ 8:58pm |
Oh god Strange Dahlia, this place is your therapy ? <:/ | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Vegan replied on Mon Jan 26, 2009 @ 10:17pm |
Originally Posted By STRANGEDAHLIA
Let's face it - Ecstasy brings you in a different state that most people are not even aware of - and unable to reach/experience without the use of chemical aids. Yeah I know :) I know it's helped a bunch of people. Originally Posted By STRANGEDAHLIA
Saying that "they" have no clue what they're taking and what it does to their body seems to be a judgement call on your part. Obviously you've had really bad experience with drug users (abusers?) in the past which I can not relate to. What I meant was that the vast majority of "E" users, especially the newer ones, have little or no clue what is in the pills they are taking. I have seen enough of this for enough years now to feel like I can form a fair perspective on it. I have also seen it harm lots of kids who didn't know that they were taking certain drugs that they would never take on their own if they weren't put under the blanket name of "Ecstasy" and dressed up in purple dolphin shapes. I guess it's a personal feeling, but I don't feel that kids taking a mix unknown substances is a very good way of welcoming them to our world. I feel that we should do whatever we can to make our scene into an informed and responsible one, and that's not informed or responsible. Oh feelings. Originally Posted By STRANGEDAHLIA
But I have a very "shamanic" view on drug usage ... I believe that in the right context, they can be used to cure and enlighten, allowing people to break free of their own limitations and gain a different perspective on things. Just like they can easily become a very destructive force when approached by an imbalanced person looking for new ways to escape their own reality. Yes me too I feel the same exact way :) That's what it's been for me (learning). | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Mon Jan 26, 2009 @ 10:23pm |
at least when you buy booze you know you are buying booze.. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Tue Jan 27, 2009 @ 12:29pm |
I say we call it: "Drugs, Drugs, you so fine, you so fine you blow my mind." | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ApR1zM replied on Tue Jan 27, 2009 @ 2:25pm |
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