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Graffiti Crew Take City To Court Over "whitewashing".
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Fri Aug 15, 2008 @ 11:52am
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Hunts Point's Tats Cru graffiti crew to take city to court for covering 'art'

BY DORIAN BLOCK

Monday, August 11th 2008, 5:35 PM




This time, it's graffiti artists' turn to be ticked off.

A noted group of professional Bronx artists have filed notice they intend to sue the city for painting over one of their murals.

The "Stop Snitchin'" mural, painted on the side of an East Harlem bodega with the permission of the building's owner in 2006, featured a rat with a noose around its neck and the phrase that police say has left many of the city's crimes unsolved.

In July, City Council Speaker Christine Quinn, the Rev. Al Sharpton and others painted over the mural and invited the media to watch, charging that the mural hampers the justice system and promotes violence.

The Hunts Point-based Tats Cru, which has turned its street graffiti into a worldwide commercial enterprise, says the city's action has violated its right to free speech.

Stacey Richman, the group's lawyer, says city officials violated federal defamation and slander laws by painting over the mural.

"If you or I or anyone else did this, we would be arrested for criminal mischief," Richman said. "It was not about endorsing a negative connotation. It was about getting discussion going."

Richman said the next step is to schedule a private hearing with the city as soon as it responds to the claim, whose premise is supported by the American Civil Liberties Union.

Gabriel Taussig, an attorney with the city's Law Department, said no laws were broken because the owner of the building gave permission to have the mural painted over.

"The law allows an owner to paint a wall any way he sees fit," Taussig said.

But Richman said the owner was threatened with fines if the mural was not removed. The owner did not respond to a call for comment.

"Stop Snitching" first entered the public sphere around 2004. Since then, city officials across the nation have battled the motto by trying to ban its use.

Witnesses wearing "Stop Snitching" shirts have been thrown out of court in Pittsburgh. Boston Mayor Thomas Menino threatened to confiscate all clothing with the message in 2005, although he quickly backed down after a legal outcry.

Susan Alexander, 50, who passed the mural daily, said she does not care about the rights of the artists, when the art is encouraging people to break the law.

"That was a menace to society," she said. "Kids don't need to see something stupid. They need to see something positive. If their friend gets killed, they're not supposed to tell anyone? I'm old enough to know that's garbage."

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The article is interesting, but my favourite part was the comment right underneath it.

Check this:

einnor111 Aug 11, 2008 9:56:01 PM
Rev.(I owe millions in back taxes) Sharpton and Council Speaker (The slush fund queen) Quinn will have the store owner back them up or have a daily parade of health inspectors, civil rights marchers or be harassed til he is forced to close because he allowed a mural that is not to their liking be put on his wall. I guess these artist should (and rightfully so) put a Sean Bell mural about 51 shots and police indifference to their use of excessive force and see how Sharpton and Ms. Quinn would differ in painting over that mural. I guess the officers involed in the shooting took the "Stop Snitchin" to heart when it came time to fess up about what really happened to those poor men that got shot.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Fri Aug 15, 2008 @ 12:17pm
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Well they have no right to paint over someone's private property, but the 'stop snitching' campaign is the dumbest thing ever, it's like an epitome of the stupidity of gangsta culture.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JojoBizarre replied on Fri Aug 15, 2008 @ 1:53pm
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the building's owner gave them the permission!

The "Stop Snitchin'" mural, painted on the side of an East Harlem bodega with the permission of the building's owner in 2006, featured a rat with a noose around its neck and the phrase that police say has left many of the city's crimes unsolved.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» No_Comply replied on Fri Aug 15, 2008 @ 2:25pm
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he also gave the city permission to paint over it.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Fri Aug 15, 2008 @ 5:27pm
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"But Richman said the owner was threatened with fines if the mural was not removed. The owner did not respond to a call for comment."
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» No_Comply replied on Fri Aug 15, 2008 @ 5:31pm
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one mans threat is another mans prediction of likely events.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Fri Aug 15, 2008 @ 5:52pm
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what the hell is THAT supposed to mean!
>:|
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PonChalice replied on Fri Aug 15, 2008 @ 6:20pm
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yeha, im not getting it...

i guess i might as well do one too then:

one mans guilty sin is another mans last chance to make it through the divide
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Fri Aug 15, 2008 @ 8:12pm
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One mans desire is another mans retraining order.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» No_Comply replied on Mon Aug 18, 2008 @ 2:09pm
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no i mean the shop owner says he was threatened. The city official who "threatened" him could easily say he was just informing him of the consequences of wtv ordinance he was breaking. In court, that's not a threat. The crew shit outta luck if they take it to court.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Mon Aug 18, 2008 @ 2:34pm
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WHat ordinance would that be, though?
The mural had been there for more than a year, with the owners permission, and all of a sudden it's possibly breaking an ordinance?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» No_Comply replied on Mon Aug 18, 2008 @ 2:37pm
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no idea, but governments dance around their own laws like nothing anyway, I'm sure they can easily come up with something =p The point of democracy is to appoint the ppl we want to not look out for us, amirite?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Mon Aug 18, 2008 @ 4:00pm
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*Mico is not amused*

=p
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» No_Comply replied on Mon Aug 18, 2008 @ 4:22pm
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Hey, I'm still waiting for that sammij...

*not amused either*
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