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Paying The Dj
Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» MURDOCK_ROCK replied on Tue Jul 8, 2008 @ 9:55am
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if you worked at a depaneur and it was a slow day for buisness would you still expect to get paid?
I'm feeling republican right now..
Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Tue Jul 8, 2008 @ 9:58am
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Even some old timers are not worth it anymore. Maybe at one point your were king shit and did fill up a bar or an event... But now you're old meat and you're name is as good as an old Zellars brand...


I dunno man... I am on my own tip. I don't let other people dictate to me who is hot and who fell off. I'd rather book some underground veteran than some flavour-of-the-week DJ who will "bring people out".

That's just me - and that's why I'm not a promoter. I have no interest in supporting DJs just because they have mass appeal. The day I start doin that I know I fucked up.

L
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear replied on Tue Jul 8, 2008 @ 10:53am
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if you worked at a depaneur and it was a slow day for buisness would you still expect to get paid?


Yes I would... But if it was always a slow day I'd close shop... And you're comparing two totally different things... A dj who will not bring people to an event does not deserve to get paid or be booked. Get a following and then you'll get booked and paid to play.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» davesob replied on Tue Jul 8, 2008 @ 11:15am
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I dont think we are under or over paid.....
The market decides what DJs get paid. There is no shortage of DJs, and we compete with each other for gigs in terms of how many people we can bring. Either you have fans that will come out, or until you get to that stage, you better be able to bring out some friends.

That being said, most of the promo responsiblity lies with the promoter, and its also their job to take the risk. If the party dosn't work out, the DJ still gets paid what was agreed upon. Unless its some profit sharing deal.
Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» MURDOCK_ROCK replied on Tue Jul 8, 2008 @ 11:15am
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it's not really a different situation...
you are paying for a service.
if you are paying your dj to work as a promoter you asking him to perform an additional service as well.
which is fine in this present time where dj's seem to wear alot of different hats.
but if thats the case this should be discussed and worked out in the contract before hand whether it be written or verbal.
here is a better example...
you are getting married and hire a dj to play at the reception.
you invite 100 guests to the wedding and in your culture its customary for the guest to give a cash gift to cover the costs of there meal and service.
unfortunately... something goes wrong an 50 of those guests call you up saying they can't make it and wish you the best.
you are still stuck paying for all the food and services...
are you going to gyp the dj?
I'm feeling republican right now..
Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Strik_IX replied on Tue Jul 8, 2008 @ 11:15am
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Woah... It seems Noah fails to see the logic of "you work, you get paid". Your headliner sure aint gonna play for 10 hours now is he? You gotta have music the whole night right?

Back in the day, we'd go to parties for certain artists, but there was also a few promoters who's parties were ALWAYS good, even if it was 100% locals it was packed. Why? Cuz the promoters were doing their jobs, PROMOTING. Not to mention the fact that people like Mini-Tank for example would spent a lot of time preparing decorations, making absolutely amazing creative flyers, and things were always smooth. It isnt just headliners that bring the money in,the promoters and locals do as well, there wouldnt be a party at all if you didnt have a efw locals to spin 6-8 hours of music, all you would have is a 1-2 hour show.
I'm feeling sofa king we tod did right now..
Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Tue Jul 8, 2008 @ 11:41am
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Hey Noah,

I need a new website,

You design it,

If more people visit the newer one,

I'll pay you,

If not, I can cancel the contract I had with you and not pay you,

You can start your "set time" tommorrow morning at 4:30, in a warehouse 45 minutes from your house,

Remember, you pay for the cab out of your own pocket and you're expected to bring all your own equipment,

Email me back if you can do the "gig"

P.S. I can garantee at least 2 free beers and a glass of water
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MURDOCK_ROCK replied on Tue Jul 8, 2008 @ 11:48am
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^^^^
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» PonChalice replied on Tue Jul 8, 2008 @ 11:49am
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... always pay the designer based on how meny hits your site got?
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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Holly_Golightly replied on Tue Jul 8, 2008 @ 11:50am
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mini tank parties were fun! :) haha it remembers me the cloud serie parties.. in my experience, i often went out for local mtl djs (that were not my close friends..)! but often you go out for an event be cause of multiples reasons..

when i throw my event i had special private agreement with the local djs.. it was a special event. we spend so much money (i would never tell how much!) for that day but it was alright.. all my djs were having bar tickets and at least the $ for cab ride..

but in normal circumstance, let say tom. morning i want a party with 1 or 2 out of town big name and few locals.. like noah said i would pay considering the name.. i would probably ask a new comer but would not pay him/her the same way than let say..(i don't like to give names like that..) you know someone who play around, who prove they can fill out a energic dancefloor.. you know what i mean! people who talk here about wonderful wonders who still play in their basement well, maybe that's for a reason! even artist who doesn't play each week have a reputation with their names, set or productions..

and it's always depend the type of vibe/party you wanna put together.. do you rent a super club for 8 000$ or have a nice warehouse venue for 800$? do you sell your tickets 12$ including bar open or you charge 20$ for a all local party. i mean do the math. and it's always depend also if the party is throw by someone who have a label and make a living out of the music.. or a guy/girl who just want to make a party for their friends...

i think the ideal is to be fair i suppose.
Update » Holly_Golightly wrote on Tue Jul 8, 2008 @ 11:54am
but i agree that a dj should get pay even if there's nobody at the night. you must respect the arrangement you took at the beg. with the artist...
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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Strik_IX replied on Tue Jul 8, 2008 @ 11:58am
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Hmmmm that cab thing is something I hadnt thought of... I'm throwing a free loft party for my b-day and have a few DJs whom agreed to play for free. I will obviously have quite a bit of booze and weed for em but totally didnt think that if I were a DJ there's no way I'd drag my vinyl/equipment in the metro. I'll make sure to either have cab money or friends to lift them.

I'm no promoter and it will be a loft party which I wont profit from at all, in fact I will be losing quite a bit of money. But I do want my DJs whom are basically doing it for fun or the mere fact that it's my b-day to feel appreciated.
I'm feeling sofa king we tod did right now..
Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Turtle replied on Tue Jul 8, 2008 @ 11:58am
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my 2 cents.
I haven't been djing long professionally, but i have done sevral parties on this site and clubs and bars else where....Dj's are underappreciated in alot of places and paid well in others...As UFOT said our equipment music ect...Costs money.....I am not asking to be paid outrageously but to cover my cots of the nite(free drinking) A lift to and from the event IE Taxi or whatever....And depending on the event if it is a club or a rave or a party...And depending on if it makes money or not...I ususally ask for a bit before and a bit after not much becuase i don't have that big of a name, but when peeps hire me they know that they will get a great set....And i will do my best no matter what....

And if i do a shit set ( let's face it dj's have bad nites too) i do not ask for a cent and make my way back and forth ( AS RECOIL SAID AS WELL)...But with free drinking during the nite becuase i am giving my services.....
I'm feeling headache right now..
Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Holly_Golightly replied on Tue Jul 8, 2008 @ 12:02pm
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Originally Posted By STRIK_IX

Hmmmm that cab thing is something I hadnt thought of... I'm throwing a free loft party for my b-day and have a few DJs whom agreed to play for free. I will obviously have quite a bit of booze and weed for em but totally didnt think that if I were a DJ there's no way I'd drag my vinyl/equipment in the metro. I'll make sure to either have cab money or friends to lift them.

I'm no promoter and it will be a loft party which I wont profit from at all, in fact I will be losing quite a bit of money. But I do want my DJs whom are basically doing it for fun or the mere fact that it's my b-day to feel appreciated.


do you aks people to pay at the door? do you invite strangers? there a difference between friends party (wich happen all the time, often nowadays they are the best!)
i don't think that the dj who agrees to come play music at your party expect $ for cab .
Update » Holly_Golightly wrote on Tue Jul 8, 2008 @ 12:06pm
also if you are selling booze or the goods i think it's just fair that all peeps imply should get little money yeah for cabs or else..
I'm feeling hitched right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Tue Jul 8, 2008 @ 12:23pm
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your value as an artist (thus the amount you should be paid) is determined by how many people are willing to pay to see you play.
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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Kishmay_Pinas replied on Tue Jul 8, 2008 @ 12:30pm
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Originally Posted By BASDINI

your value as an artist (thus the amount you should be paid) is determined by how many people are willing to pay to see you play.


And this is a calculation the promoter makes when he decides to book said artist.

The art of promoting is all about taking calculated risks.
Pay da dj
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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» MURDOCK_ROCK replied on Tue Jul 8, 2008 @ 12:31pm
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well put kishmay...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kishmay_Pinas replied on Tue Jul 8, 2008 @ 12:33pm
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oh and Bliss

hahahahaha fuckin gold!
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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Tue Jul 8, 2008 @ 12:42pm
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noah: popularity controls price. If a DJ is popular, they can charge more, and people will pay it. You could book a popular DJ and have a party that is a total bust and nobody shows up if it is not promoted well. That's the point of this whole thread, the promoters who claim that "not enough people showed up" or that "I didn't make enough money", and don't pay. This is regardless of whether a DJ "brings a crowd" or not. Their price set beforehand is based on how many people they can bring in, if the promoter fucks up the party, it's the promoter's problem, and their bill. The talent should be paid.
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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Turtle replied on Tue Jul 8, 2008 @ 1:05pm
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Even if i became an international sensation over nite.. I wouldn't ask for outrageous pay or whatever cover my costs and then some!!!

Lets face it when djs are hired they r hired based on their talent/musical style/character ect.....So when we r asked....we expect some kind of payment....if not big the costs to be covered as i said before..Then if we have to play opening for a big dj then costs depends then we have to plan ahead and stuff.....
I'm feeling headache right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Strik_IX replied on Tue Jul 8, 2008 @ 1:09pm
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Originally Posted By BETTY_HAZE

also if you are selling booze or the goods i think it's just fair that all peeps imply should get little money yeah for cabs or else..


I might just do that, I was actually thinking about the booze part yesterday and sharing whatever profits I made.
I'm feeling sofa king we tod did right now..
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