Originally Posted By MOONDANCER

Originally Posted By Ethnic_Cleanser How about you get out of under the rock that you've been living all this time and realize that islam is the greatest threat to man kind, I'm just returning the favor in a none violent way.

That's what Hitler said abotu the jews. It's amazing how you try to turn the blame the other way. You are the one here trying to incite WW3 and you're saying this is what you want to prevent. You encourage the desecration of muslim graves why? Is this your idea of avoiding WW3? You have no interest in our security, you are only interested in carrying out your own personal sense of justice. You see them as worthy of some kind of revenge. You have no game plan besides hurting people. Also it seems strangely convenient that someone who believes in ethnic cleansing takes a stance against relgion. All the poorest most torn apart and desperate peoples are also the most religious and what do you know, coloured.

I believe we should have the right to believe whatever we want. You have the right to be racist. What bothers me is you come here with all that as if this were some kind of safe haven for people like you. Your ideas against religon may support the stance of a few people here but no one here is like you. My own personal sense of justice tells me to stand up for the honour of all the millions of jews who died and germans shamed by the symbols you so proudly display for what you say is simply to provoke us. How self-important can you be? First of all I don't believe that's your reason, cause no one is that stupid to take so muhc credit away from their cause and if that is the case and that is the only reason why.. you still deserve to be beaten to a pulp for borrowing something from another culture and situation you don't understand and have no right to judge. Jews came here to canada to get away from all that, no one deserves to see this shit. It's nto just abotu them either, it's for every ethnicity you believe the world would be better withough. Between you and them I stand by them. I think it's dangerous to convey the idea that racism is socially acceptable, too many would be tempted to hate and spread hate. Being tolerant to you would be a danger to my culture. People like you should be made examples if you ask me. Yes, intolerant isn't it? I guess I'm just treating intolerance with more intolerance, ya know.

if the scientific atheist position is indeed so compelling why are there still religious people in the world? Scientific atheism has been around for about 500 years why hasn't it done it's job and gotten rid of religion all together? The fact is, it's not nearly as compelling as atheists argue it to be, it leaves serious questions un answered concerning morallity and justice, but other things as well like beauty and the meaning and value of human existance.

in a trully free and pluralistic society we would put scientific atheism and spiritual perspectives on the market place of ideas and see if one triumphs over the other, in the sense that gradually one of them would possibly be favored by the majority of people over the other.

anyone who choses a spiritual perspective of the world is being brainwashed, or not thinking clearly. I think it's funny the way that if you disagree with the atheist position your being irrational (in their opinion), there can be only one perspective, theirs, am i the only one who see's this as form intellectual totallitarianism? On top of everything (as we have gone over on countless occassions on this message board) the atheist position is founded neither on logical mathematical proof derived from axioms, nor empirical observation and experimentation, so what is it based on? The answer...very little in the way of evidence or argument, and a lot in terms of rhetoric and disingenious strong arm tactics. The answer i get from atheists when pressed on this point is something along the lines of "Well...It's obvious, god doesn't exist". I can't be the only one who sees this for what really is, can I? As far as the atheist is concerned anyone who supports the atheist position is a loyal devotee and anyone who disagrees (even the slightest of derivations) is heretic.

Originally Posted By ETHNIC_CLEANSER

The jews didn't die because of hitler... they died BECAUSE OF RELIGION. If there was no religion, there would be no jew, christian or a muslim, we would all be the same. SO therefore hitler would not have grounds to discriminate the jews because they would be just like anyone else.

Originally Posted By BASDINI ARABICA IS A TYPE OF COFFEE NOT A PLACE.

Originally Posted By GLANDITH

Originally Posted By Ethnic_Cleanser
The jews didn't die because of hitler... they died BECAUSE OF RELIGION. If there was no religion, there would be no jew, christian or a muslim, we would all be the same. SO therefore hitler would not have grounds to discriminate the jews because they would be just like anyone else.

Right, like all the other groups persecuted and killed by the Nazis: homosexuals, the handicapped, gypsies, POWs, the Polish, black people, and just about any other group that didn't fit the Aryan bill. Their deaths are numbered in the millions.

but dude religion is not the root of all evil, so many more of the worlds problems can be pinned down inequity and relations of dominance by a group of people over another (ie the industrialized 1st world vs the developing 3rd world) if you really want to solve some of the most pressing problems then you should be trying to make sure that everyone one earth has access to clean water, food, and shelter, and other basic necessities of life like health care and education. That's a lot harder i guess than calously and senslessly attacking a religion that has members numbering 1/6 th of humanity, that your not a part of that you have nothing to do with and know nothing about. You would actually have to get up off your ass and do something rather than just trying to antagonizing people with your intellectualy bankrupt ideas.

every fucking authoritarian movement in 20th century had the same goals as you, make people the same no religion no ethnicity no divergence of political creed, and they all end the same way, with cocentration camps, gulags, secret police, and loss of individuality in collectivism. Difference isn't something to be eliminated it's something to be cherished and celebrated.

don't worry motherfucker, there will always be people like me to oppose people like you, and i will die to prevent you from getting what you want.

Originally Posted By BASDINI MAN THE BEST CHINESE FOOD IS FROM WESTERN CHINA(THE PARTS OF CHINA THAT TOUCH LIKE KHAZAKSTAN TAJIKISTAN AND KYRGASTAN), IT'S WICKED, IT'S ALL LIKE LAMB KEBABS AND FLAT BREAD AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WHEN I LIVED IN CHINA THERE WAS THIS WESTERN CHINESE RESTAURANT DOWN THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE AND FOR LIKE $3 DOLLARS YOU COULD HAVE THIS 7 COURSE MEAL, IT WAS SOOOO GOOD.