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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali replied on Fri Jun 22, 2007 @ 12:50am |
 Coolness: 141370 | wha? |
| I'm feeling like a killer robot right now.. | |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Br34th3 replied on Fri Jun 22, 2007 @ 12:54am |
 Coolness: 128450 | bitch punk.. say it with a German accent, its fun. |
| I'm feeling 7542 right now.. | |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Fri Jun 22, 2007 @ 5:16am |
 Coolness: 510245 | I'm glad you guys like the darker stuff better, bwahahahahahahaha!
*puts fingers together like Mr Burns* |
| I'm feeling vacation right now.. | |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» HumanBoing replied on Sun Jun 24, 2007 @ 1:59pm |
 Coolness: 40655 | Not my style but fun track, I'm sure it'll go well in a live setting. I think you should re-work your gated synth though (maybe cut out some of those irritating freqs immediately around 400-500hz), and perhaps use it more sparsely it gets a bit annoying. Nice prod tricks, funny sample :) cheers! |
| I'm feeling bemused. right now.. | |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Sun Jul 1, 2007 @ 2:31am |
| Coolness: 510245 | song has been updated... just better level work... |
| I'm feeling hijacked right now.. | |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Br34th3 replied on Sun Jul 1, 2007 @ 2:06pm |
| Coolness: 128450 | is this mix straight from ableton?... theres something pretty fucked about the entire wave form if it is. if its mastered, its horrible mastering.. if its just a simple mixdown straight from the sequencer.. its a pretty horrible mix.. theres no headroom, wich leads me to think that your initial mix levels are way off and are using a limiter to compensate. |
| I'm feeling 16 693? right now.. | |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sun Jul 1, 2007 @ 2:22pm |
 Coolness: 686275 | Headroom is so over-rated. Just run it through the L2 at -5db threshold and -0.3 out ceiling and you're fine! |
| I'm feeling warcracktastic right now.. | |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Br34th3 replied on Sun Jul 1, 2007 @ 2:58pm |
| Coolness: 128450 | ummmmm.......... you must really like your couch.;) Update » Br34th3 wrote on Sun Jul 1, 2007 @ 2:59pm No professional label on earth would take a track that looks like that. |
| I'm feeling 16 693? right now.. | |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sun Jul 1, 2007 @ 3:01pm |
| Coolness: 686275 | You've obviously not been getting lots of recent DnB records.. Most stuff is limited like you wouldn't believe. |
| I'm feeling warcracktastic right now.. | |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Br34th3 replied on Sun Jul 1, 2007 @ 3:06pm |
| Coolness: 128450 | were not talking mastering here.. were talking simple mixdown... of course a record is limited.. its part of the mastering process... a mix shouldnt clip without the l2 on it to begin with. .. zed.. turn off the l2 and post your mixdown. ...no cheating ;) Update » Br34th3 wrote on Sun Jul 1, 2007 @ 3:12pm L2 at -5db threshold and -0.3 out ceiling and you're fine! .. this formula only works with specific mix situations.. for a homogenic mixdown between tracks the threshold ammount should be based on a track standard ie. the kick volume after peak elimination and normalisation. otherwise.. your kinda flying blind. |
| I'm feeling 16 693? right now.. | |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Sun Jul 1, 2007 @ 5:46pm |
| Coolness: 510245 | it's a 128kbit mp3... that's why it looks like that. Update » AlienZeD wrote on Sun Jul 1, 2007 @ 6:15pm i'm not about to upload the wav... for multiple reasons... but Breathe, i'd love a crash course in what YOU consider 'good' mixing and 'good' mastering...
all I have going for me are my ears :) Update » AlienZeD wrote on Sun Jul 1, 2007 @ 6:24pm here's a quick observation... if a mix doesn't clip without the L2, then why would you put an L2?
If there's nothing to limit, you're just wasting cpu cycles... or do you up the threshold? |
| I'm feeling hijacked right now.. | |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sun Jul 1, 2007 @ 6:46pm |
 Coolness: 201910 | I always just ran my live sets through a limiter.. but that was more of a precaution.. I'd suggest lower the levels of all the tracks... Update » nothingnopenope wrote on Sun Jul 1, 2007 @ 6:49pm Breath: load up any recent rock track into an audio editor, You will see levels like this everywhere, and that's with music that uses a lot of live instrumentation. Not that it's a good thing though. |
| I'm feeling gangsta right now.. | |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Br34th3 replied on Sun Jul 1, 2007 @ 7:49pm |
| Coolness: 128450 | Zed.. Mp3??...no thats not why it looks like that... it would look almost the same. A mix isnt supposed to clip without the l2. if it clips without it.. your levels are too loud or your sounds are badly produced..
Scotty, I agree.... AFTER MASTERING. however. before mastering.. a track is not supposed to have ZERO headroom with an L2 to stop it from clipping ... please re-read this carefully if there is still any confusion. last time im gonna say it. |
| I'm feeling 16 693? right now.. | |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Sun Jul 1, 2007 @ 7:55pm |
| Coolness: 510245 | ok so I am going to send you the unlimited file, I took the sonic maximizer off too,
obviously it is normalized, because otherwise it would clip, which is not something I'd ever let any of my tracks do (anymore) even if I have to limit it. the BIG problem is trying to get the same levels as pro tracks... like listen to the new xerox vs illumination album, it just plain sounds LOUD... What I really need is complete education in frequency and electronic theory (maybe?) but I don't have the time/money/will. I mean, it's not like I'll ever make any sufficient sum of money from this to live... it's just fun :) Update » AlienZeD wrote on Sun Jul 1, 2007 @ 8:10pm you managed to completely avoid my question....if a mix doesn't clip without the L2, then why would you put an L2?
feel free to explain what the L2 does if it's not for insuring that your track doesn't clip... |
| I'm feeling hijacked right now.. | |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Br34th3 replied on Sun Jul 1, 2007 @ 8:06pm |
| Coolness: 128450 | Don't try to get the sound levels the same as pro tracks when mixing a tune... Pro tracks (the ones you hear on cds at home etc...) are mastered.. this mastering process eq's, compresses and subsequently limits and normalises the final mixdown of the track. The MASTERING process requires headroom (space before hitting 0db) to accomplish sucessfully and effectivly. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Sun Jul 1, 2007 @ 8:12pm |
| Coolness: 510245 | good to know... it's amazingly hard to get some synths sounding good at such low levels though... is there a general level they should hit on their own? or is it really different for each synth? |
| I'm feeling a live set right now.. | |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Br34th3 replied on Sun Jul 1, 2007 @ 8:16pm |
| Coolness: 128450 | probably cuz everything else in your mix is too loud... start with your kick at -6 db and go from there. |
| I'm feeling 16 693? right now.. | |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Sun Jul 1, 2007 @ 8:21pm |
| Coolness: 510245 | kick is at -6db and bass is at -9db, most percussions are between -7 and -14, my synths are all generally below -6 |
| I'm feeling a live set right now.. | |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Br34th3 replied on Sun Jul 1, 2007 @ 8:29pm |
| Coolness: 128450 | bass *could* be lower still (really depends on the sound... percussions -7?!?>>wayy too loud. snare -17*ish. Check the samples WAV for strange spikes that just boost the db reading for nothing.. then re adjust. synths shouldnt need to be much more than -11*ish. |
| I'm feeling 16 693? right now.. | |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Sun Jul 1, 2007 @ 8:46pm |
| Coolness: 510245 | I guess having sounds louder creates a spiral of making everything else louder, that would explain a lot, but I still feel weird about putting percussions that low, like I put my snare at -17, and it's basically not even there...
I should probably doctor my WAV's more than I do... in any case, experience is key, thank you for the input thusfar :) |
| I'm feeling a live set right now.. | |
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