How To Mix Better?
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Mon May 8, 2006 @ 11:59pm |
 Coolness: 146110 | I want to be a better Dj...I'm ok you know, nothing special tho, but i want to be better the way i see it i have two seperate pbroblems the first is i need to be tighter i need to get to the point where every mix is a 'perfecto', one record dubing over the other so proper you don't even need to touch it...The second problem is that i need to add more color to my mixes you know play with the fadder and the levels and the Highs, mids and lows more...
does anyone have any suggestions for improving my 'technique of mexological interface', besides, just more practice that is, maybe some excercises or something, serious answers only please... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Br34th3 replied on Tue May 9, 2006 @ 1:40am |
 Coolness: 128675 | I used to record myself alot just trying all sorts of fucked up stuff then I'd listen to the play back taking note of what worked, what didnt and what to improve on in the future... always asking questions.. if it sounded good ..why? .. if not... why? ..what should i try next? etc.. ultimately it builds an arsenal of origional and/or innovative tricks and techniques that will set you apart from the rest. another thing that greatly improved my mixing was mixing different styles of techno..in the past ive mixed everything from tech/hardtech to jungle/ragga/breaks/dnb to hhc/freeform you name it..(use cds/mp3's borrow records if ya hafta, its not like youre going to play out with any of this) I learned something technically and stylistically every step of the way that I now apply to my chosen style. ..another great learning technique is just simply watching the pros or someone you admire do it.. dont be shy ask them if you can stand behind them and watch for a while.. theyll usually say yes if youre respectful and polite about it.. sometimes its less about technique and more about stage presence, play it from all angles .. keep your eyes on the ball, your ear to the ground and dont give up ..good luck -K |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Tue May 9, 2006 @ 6:42am |
| Coolness: 146110 | thanks man, some of those suggestions are worth trying... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ufot replied on Tue May 9, 2006 @ 1:47pm |
 Coolness: 94010 | good extersizes would be playing recs really slow and trying to beat match perfectly... then playing ur recs really fast and trying to beat match perfectly(both those technics come from practicing scales with an actual instrument, but they also work well for improving your mixing skillz)... another would be crossing styles into each other... and yet another would be stacking five selected choonz, and mixing them into each other over and over until u do it seemlessly, and each round mix them in faster and faster, forcing urself to complete the mixes in less and less time... repeat all these practices with special attention to how u treat the basses, the mids and the highs, one knob level at a time... another great way to improve is to listen to the "best" mixers out there, over and over, listen to them until u can physically picture exactly what they are doing, then try to mimic their technics on ur own, efx and all...
oh yes, and if u really want to get deep into that shit, practice with a full length mirror and a bucket of chicken, inbetween mixes, stare at urself in the mirror while eating the chicken... Ufot-goodluck with great muzik |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Tue May 9, 2006 @ 4:16pm |
 Coolness: 202135 | masturbate it's good for the wrist |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» El_Presidente replied on Tue May 9, 2006 @ 5:31pm |
 Coolness: 300235 | how to mix batter? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MURDOCK_ROCK replied on Tue May 9, 2006 @ 5:41pm |
 Coolness: 84785 | if you have a roomate... get him to yell YOU FUCKIN' SUCK ... YOU SUUUUCK!!! everytime your even slightly off.
practice without headphones sometimes and don't crank you headphone volume too loud. don't touch the record exept for cueing and scratching... push and pull the plater instead and follow up those movements with the pitch..... its WAY more acurate. if your using a higher torque deck than a twelve... don't touch the plater or the record... just the pitch (you can mix with just the pitch on a twelve too, but they lag which means you gotta push the pitch further and bring it back so its got time to catch up. don't kill your bass completely... if you do it will probably sound wierd and hollow on a bigger system. despite what some may say... 2 bass lines sounds fuckin HUGE... and you can adjust your mids if it sounds funny. cuts and phrasing are alway fun too... blends can get boring and dj's who don't cut are all fags anyway. you can make new cut like grooves with you eq too... like if you got 2 leads going you can use the beggining of one and the end of the other(kinda like a cross fade without killing your drums) by killing your mids ... ie. left side for the first 2 bars and right for the last 2. you can even cut it up in ones with the fader... like kick, snare, kick, snare... the best way to learn though is steal other ppls moves that you think rock... take a mental note... and decode it at home. have fun... and lemme know if any of that made any sense |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Wed May 10, 2006 @ 2:31am |
| Coolness: 146110 | thank you everyone for your advice
i think i like nick's the best tho... oh yes, and if u really want to get deep into that shit, practice with a full length mirror and a bucket of chicken, inbetween mixes, stare at urself in the mirror while eating the chicken... Ufot-goodluck with great muzik like something out of that movie 'Constantine' |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» davesob replied on Wed May 10, 2006 @ 4:39pm |
 Coolness: 53865 | Two tips that really helped me : 1- Try to stop touching the platter as much as possible , 2- Keep your headphones on all the time and have your other track playing softly throughout the mix. Unless you have a bad monitor situation.
One night when I saw Dave Clarke at Aria, I noticed he never touched the platter when matching the beat, or adjusting one track relative to another. He only ever used the pitch, and his headphones never came off one of his ears. I decided that I would try to do the same and in doing so, I realized that I had been making a big mistake upto that point. I used to think I could beatmatch the tracks, then once they were on, I would mix them. The mix would be good at first, but often it would start going off over time. This is when it can get messy. Now, I realize that mixing and keeping two tracks on beat is like driving a car in a straight line, it requires constant corrective addjustments. The other great thing about using the pitch control, is that all your actions can be quantified by the position of the pitch. So if your beat is off, you make an adjustment, then it goes on, the right pitch for the mix is somewhere between those two points. repeating this process allows you to narow it down until your tracks are beatmatched. Touching the platter is far to inexact and the result of slowing down or speeding up a record with your hand doesn’t tell you anything about what just happened. In theory, a single adjustment of the pitch and listening to the way it affects the beats relative to one another can tell you exactly where to pitch your record. Oh ya, and try mixing with three decks or with cdjs, It will require more of your consentration to get comfortable with the new setup, then when you switch back at your new level of focus, 2 decks becomes far easier. Good luck |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» FRANKB replied on Wed May 10, 2006 @ 5:34pm |
 Coolness: 104245 | i dont like rewiring because u cant see ur reason sequence in ur ableton sequencer so u gotta go back to reason to see the number in the sequence where u gotta start...
mixes me up |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali replied on Sun May 14, 2006 @ 10:48pm |
 Coolness: 141595 | buy a numark cdn-88 and press on the automatic beatmatch button.....
no... nnnnnnnoooooo! god i hate that cd player |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Mon May 15, 2006 @ 2:26am |
| Coolness: 146110 | i was talking to my friend benny about all this and he says that i should never have two bass lines (the lows) pounding at the same time he said that this only makes everything sound all garbeled and distorted especialy on a big sound system, what do other people think can one bass line dub over another and still sound all right? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Mon May 15, 2006 @ 2:29am |
| Coolness: 202135 | I find it sounds bad in drum and bass, but it can sound good in techno |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon May 15, 2006 @ 8:26am |
 Coolness: 340575 | isn't the whole point of techno to be as busy as possible? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Da_Hand replied on Mon May 15, 2006 @ 11:10am |
 Coolness: 42950 | Originally posted by DJNEOFORM...
isn't the whole point of techno to be as busy as possible? In short...no. LOL |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MURDOCK_ROCK replied on Mon May 15, 2006 @ 1:35pm |
| Coolness: 84785 | i was talking to my friend benny about all this and he says that i should never have two bass lines (the lows) pounding at the same time he said that this only makes everything sound all garbeled and distorted especialy on a big sound system, what do other people think can one bass line dub over another and still sound all right?
"never" is a pretty big word... not to mention limiting.. i find the bassline thing a very interesting debate... personally... i can't help but to notice that most good analog mixers aren't even capable of bringing the bass down to 0... its usually cheap ass digital mixers that do that. anyway... i don't like killing my bass all the way... cuz yer not just killing the bassline... but all the low end... and more often than not you want some of that low end in your kick drums regardless of what the bassline is doing. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Mon May 15, 2006 @ 8:18pm |
| Coolness: 202135 | isn't the whole point of techno to be as busy as possible?
The music is ussually pretty repetitive, but it gives the DJ a chance to be as busy as possible, techno is the only genre where you can mix three tracks together at once and it sounds good |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» madforbrad replied on Tue May 16, 2006 @ 12:15pm |
 Coolness: 45460 | ya whoever mentioned having bass on both tracks is a moron. The whole point in Eqing is to have a balance between both tracks. Having kick drums that both have high energy in the bass frequencies will result in phase distortion and will sound bad 100% of the time.
Bass isn't something you mix. This isn't an opinion. The whole concept of equing is to have elements in their seperate frquency band so they don't get in the way. god damn |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» davesob replied on Tue May 16, 2006 @ 1:40pm |
| Coolness: 53865 | madforbrad.... Where did you get these rules from? It seems like your knowledge of mixing bass comes more from production experience and not djing. Its not always about having the best possible sound, it's about working with the tracks you have, and doing something interesting. I agree with Murdock, you can't say NEVER or 100%. Last week at a party I was mixing a track with a breakbeat and I threw a 4/4 beat ontop. I had both bass eqs full at 0, and it created a really nice galloping effect.
Alot of the best djs I see don't really touch the eqs that much because it takes away from the sound of the track. Many of the big house clubs in NYC ad Chicago don't even have an eq for the individual channels, they just have one eq for the master out. As far as dj tips go: Whenever you use the eqs, you are altering the sound as it was intended to be played. Sometimes cutting a certain frequeny can really make the sound shitty. My personal rule of thumb is that I usually wont cut more than -12db, and thats what I do when I really want to remove the desired frequency. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Br34th3 replied on Tue May 16, 2006 @ 5:16pm |
| Coolness: 128675 | davesob. .got a demo of youre mixing? ..id like to hear your MIX talent without eqing... LOL |
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