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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Thu Jan 2, 2003 @ 7:16pm |
 Coolness: 92365 | do you know that gluesticks are commonly distributed to schoolchildren as young as 4? wow then i guess its ok to sniff glue then!! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Optimist_pRhyme replied on Thu Jan 2, 2003 @ 7:45pm |
 Coolness: 53125 | Oh my...
"commonly prescribed for children from as young as age 3." ive said this before, and no doubt ill say it again, but Ketamine is INJECTED, in SMALL doses to small children, because its effects are minimal... HOWEVER, it is not intended to be INHALED in LARGE doses by drug addicted children. In moderation K isnt THAT bad for you... however, VERY few people i know that do k use it in moderation. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Thu Jan 2, 2003 @ 8:12pm |
 Coolness: 686265 | actually, he was talking about the amphtamines. And even though it's recently been made "illegal", body building shops still sell ephedrin pills at roughly 25$+tax for a bottle of 100, which works out to 800mg of impure ephedrin, basically un-procesed meth.
w00t? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Zeldaissocool replied on Thu Jan 2, 2003 @ 10:56pm |
| Coolness: 48110 | Most of the environmental problems arise when the cooking is actually taking place. Meth is made by taking ephedrine or super-ephedrine tablets, found in Sudafed and other decongestants, and heating them until the ephedrine is highly concentrated. It takes thousands of common ephedrine tablets to make one pound of meth.
While the ephedrine itself is not that harmful, the chemicals used to cook it are. The drug is converted into "crank" using a combination of hidriotic acid and red phosphorus. Hidriotic acid is the principal chemical that generates the conversion. The ephedrine is the hardest chemical to obtain. Though it is readily available in decongestants, the low concentration makes it difficult to process efficiently. The average ephedrine pill is just 25 milligrams, and it is concentrated many times through the cooking process. When meth was first manufactured in the 1970s, the recipe called for lots of heavy metals. Contamination throughout the site was more common. The next cooking method used lots of solvents and caustic material, which would also be harmful, but was more likely to evaporate before it caused much trouble. One process calls for the cook to spray ether onto the oil that rises to the top at the end of cooking process. The ether dries out the oil and what is left is meth. One guy didn't want to wait for the ether to work, so he put the whole thing into the oven. He got caught because of the resulting explosion. The newest method, called the Nazi method, calls for a "cold cook" using liquid ammonia, dry ice and acetone. This type of lab is another type of ephedrine conversion lab that involves two common precursors that are easily obtained and can be purchased legally from any chemical outlet. This method produces a high yield and takes only 30 minutes to convert an ephedrine into methamphetamine. However, one of the precursors is extremely moisture reactive and explodes upon contact with water, or to an abundance of moisture in the air. This type of lab also produces strong odors and dangerous gases that can be dangerous to the public if they are exposed to them. Though the ammonia can be a problem, this is much better for the environment because everything evaporates so quickly. But, it is much harder on law enforcement agencies. The method can yield a batch of meth in less than an hour, as opposed to several days with the older methods, making it much harder to catch the criminals. A few years ago a senate bill was passed banning commercial sales of hidriotic acid. This put a major dent in the domestic manufacturing of "crank", until the laboratory operators determined that hidriotic acid can be manufactured using iodine crystals. Iodine crystals can be purchased legally through any chemical distributor however, the sale of iodine crystals is reportable to the DOJ. Veterinarians and people who shoe horses use iodine crystals to make their own slurry of iodine to be used as an antiseptic, this is the only known legitimate use for iodine crystals. Red phosphorus is used in the commercial manufacture of fireworks and similar incendiary devices. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Zeldaissocool replied on Thu Jan 2, 2003 @ 11:00pm |
| Coolness: 48110 | Rush (5-30 minutes)--The abuser's heartbeat races and metabolism, blood pressure, and pulse soar. Feelings of pleasure.
High (4-16 hours)--The abuser often feels aggressively smarter and becomes argumentative. Binge (3-15 days)-The abuser maintains the high for as long as possible and becomes hyperactive, both mentally and physically. Tweaking -The most dangerous stage of the cycle. See section below. Crash (1-3 days)-The abuser does not pose a threat to anyone. He becomes almost lifeless and sleeps. Normal (2-14 days)-The abuser returns to a state that is slightly deteriorated from the normal state before the abuse. Withdrawal (30-90 days)-No immediate symptoms are evident but the abuser first becomes depressed and then lethargic. The craving for meth hits and the abuser becomes suicidal. Taking meth at any time during withdrawal can stop the unpleasant feelings so, consequently, a high percentage of addicts in treatment return to abuse. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mindset replied on Fri Jan 3, 2003 @ 12:48am |
| Coolness: 53220 | that last little bit came from the Utah Department of Public Safety, an unbiased source for SURE [ sbi.utah.gov ] . |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mindset replied on Fri Jan 3, 2003 @ 12:50am |
| Coolness: 53220 | i suggest following their marijuana links, just to see a glimpse at how much these guys vilify shit to an ill mad note degree, dun.
[ sbi.utah.gov ] |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Zeldaissocool replied on Fri Jan 3, 2003 @ 2:06am |
| Coolness: 48110 | then, i would recommend Erowids vault at:
[ www.erowid.org ] [ www.erowid.org ] a well known, respected, unbiased vault of pure information. And lots of it too. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Fri Jan 3, 2003 @ 2:10am |
 Coolness: 201900 | my best source is looking at people who take meth, and how much their lives declined since they started taking it. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ApR1zM replied on Fri Jan 3, 2003 @ 7:29am |
 Coolness: 165475 | shut the fuck up about coffee yo! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Fri Jan 3, 2003 @ 10:31am |
| Coolness: 686265 | bwahahahahahaha!
Common nicknames for Methamphetamine "Go-Fast", "Go", "Meth","Crystal", "Speed", "Crank", "Ice", "Glass", "Sketch", "Go-Go", "Jet Fuel", "Rocket Fuel", "Junk", "Wake Up", "Zoom", "Shit", "Gank", "Cridium, "Stuff', "Tweek", "Dope", and "Lines". I want some GO-FAST! YEAH! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» julie_eaves replied on Fri Jan 3, 2003 @ 11:04am |
| Coolness: 94950 | haha scotty I am a source then
hmmmm Im still in school....still getting the EXACT same grades...still graduating in June....Since then I GOT a job...and I have now started saving money for moving out...Oh and Im probably going to europe for a few months next fall.. Ohhhhh how it has destroyed my life *sobs* :P It changes from person to person damnit..so yes as tyler said..let the crackheads be crackheads |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» blop replied on Fri Jan 3, 2003 @ 12:21pm |
 Coolness: 201205 | why don't you take a step back and notice that this guy has successfully convinced not only himself but a few of his friends that smoking crystal meth is GOOD FOR YOU HEALTH.
you know what meth does? it makes y'all fucking delusional. here's a tip: take a nap. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Fri Jan 3, 2003 @ 12:26pm |
| Coolness: 686265 | quitting ephedrin has ruined my life. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» julie_eaves replied on Fri Jan 3, 2003 @ 12:56pm |
| Coolness: 94950 | which guy said meth is good for your health? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Fri Jan 3, 2003 @ 1:13pm |
| Coolness: 686265 | I think it's a reference to Ben telling people that it's prescribed to children as young as 3. In small doses, meth is better than ritalin at controlling ADD. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cloud9ine replied on Fri Jan 3, 2003 @ 1:16pm |
 Coolness: 139395 | so how does that justify anything? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Fri Jan 3, 2003 @ 1:19pm |
| Coolness: 686265 | Doesn't really justify anything. Just might mean that it's not AS bad as all the hype people are giving it. Just because a few people don't know how to controll their habits and their bodies doesn't make something bad. As retarded as it sounds, it's like the bad apple thing. Just because one apple on a tree is rotten or has worms in it, doesn't mean they all do. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cloud9ine replied on Fri Jan 3, 2003 @ 1:20pm |
| Coolness: 139395 | refer to the previous page. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» julie_eaves replied on Fri Jan 3, 2003 @ 1:24pm |
| Coolness: 94950 | isnt it funny how this thread was about drugs in general and just letting crackheads be crackheads
and now it has turned into the great meth debate..again :P |
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