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Lionel Groulx, We Barely Knew Yee
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» thehemeraproject replied on Thu Jul 7, 2005 @ 4:51pm
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Germany has a high unemployed rate because of East Germany, which was under the Soviet control for quite a while. And these people finally realise that capitalism isn't that much greater than communism, financially speaking.

Seriously who cares about Lionel Groulx ?

The sponsorship scandal is related to Ottawa, not Quebec. It doesn't mean that Quebec is clean of corruption. There is no government in the world that is clean of corruption. But the PQ was much, much better than the Liberals... I recall when they tried to give some money "en cachette" to the Jewish schools last winter. What was that all about ?

"Only here are we dumb enough to get a flashy hospital to impress the medical community while countless patients have to wait days in another one just to get a fucking X-Ray done."

Right. Go get yourself cured in South Africa for fun. I'm tired of Quebecers who say "Only here we suck this much", when it's not true. We have our problems, but I'm tired of Quebecers who shit on Quebec when they don't back it up. It's like Gilles Proulx who keeps telling us we're complete ignorants. Do we need this ? No.

"Toronto was greedy about things, but it would never have emerged as the bigge$t city unless Montreal dropped the ball 1st."

Montreal lost the ball when the frenchies got control over stuff. Of course Montreal was n.1 when everything was controlled by anglophones, but it wasn't realistic. You cannot let a minority control the majority of the money, ultimately the majority will always prevail. Separatism did not help. But the take over of the francophone community over politics and business in Quebec is the main reason why Toronto is so big now. It was unavoidable.

You're asking Montreal to be rich, and fun. The only cities like this are London, Paris, NY, LA....BIG cities, where you can find everything. Montreal is not big enough for that. The only possible way would be an independent and economicaly productive Quebec. If Quebec becomes a country, it won't be a great model of productivity. Face it : Montreal will never be a big business player. We do arts and porn (third city behind LA and Vegas, i think). We'll make money out of tourism. We're like a small version of Paris.

Seratism won't work. Unless we go free trade with Europe and try to do the maximum of business with countries other than North America, so we can match their way of living. Because the North American style is productivity over the health of their own people. Anyway right now things in the world are so fucked up, that people won't have the courage to vote Yes. Who are our allies ? Who can we really trust ? What are the States are going to do about free trade, terrorism, environment ? We don't know. That's very scary. Free trade is slowing tearing itself appart (silly dream from retarded economists, I HATE ECONOMISTS), no one seems to know what to do about terrorism other than invading countries (not smart) and no one really cares about environment (Kyoto ? it's a joke, and the States won't even sign it !). Point is : Quebec independence would change very little, because the way we govern is set by what's going on outside of our province. Bush has more power over Quebec than Charest does.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sat Jul 9, 2005 @ 8:48am
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why are you compairing federal government to provincial government? they're two different things.
and no, the PQ isn't less corrupt than the liberals.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» michaeldino replied on Sat Jul 9, 2005 @ 1:58pm
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no hes not
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ashtraygirl replied on Sat Jul 9, 2005 @ 3:47pm
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psh... leave it to quebecers to rename a perfectly fine street (Dorchester) after a seperatist (Rene Levesque) because it was too english sounding
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cactain_steef replied on Sat Jul 9, 2005 @ 4:24pm
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"Only here are we dumb enough to get a flashy hospital to impress the medical community while countless patients have to wait days in another one just to get a fucking X-Ray done."

Right. Go get yourself cured in South Africa for fun. I'm tired of Quebecers who say "Only here we suck this much"


actually, here i waited 7 hours to get an xray, 4 at the least, 13 at the most... in africa, i got a blood test, an ultra sound, and numerous medical procedures (including xrays and whatnot) done in 2 hours. all of that. their hospitals are full, but they still manage to go about business professionaly, there are hardly any misdiagnosis' there (which ive had 3 at the childrens) ...

i dono where im going with this.. but yeah, evryone always uses africa as an example, seems were too caught up with "WAHT THE FUCK" to even explore how other countries go about daily errands. even their dentistry is better... im not saying all countries in africa, but one of the poorest ones (niger) is on the ball with this shit, and we're worried abou language on street signs. fuck.
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