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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 8:09am |
 Coolness: 340380 | conservatives and liberals are just typecasts that Ian likes to use, it's a lot like people saying "i'm pro-life" or "pro-choice"..
i voted NDP last election and i'd vote for them again. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 9:53am |
 Coolness: 56915 | I think neoform demonstrated the very valid points. He could have been more precise with his language perhaps. Freedom itself leads indrectly and directly to responsibility and responsibility implies acccountability. It's when through freedom, people do not learn responsibilty ever, enough, to sustain and maintain the progression of life that it becomes foolish.
Alot of people do not know who "the father" of liberalism is. BAsdini you sound like you are asking him academic trivia. Who cares?! Presumably we all do. I would like to know who you think the "father" of liberalism is and I hope you don't name one individual in particular. But there are no wrong answers and I wish you would remember that. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 10:25am |
| Coolness: 56915 | I didn't realize there was a second-page- oh well.
Neoform, brought up a very valid point about the imbalance in our system. Some humans in the world today have more goods than others. People are inclined to want what they don't have especially when they know others have it and there is no just reason for it. Shit, if my family was dying over greed or just plain hoarding by the wealthy, if I may call it that, I might become a "terrorist" too. Do you know how many people have stopped questioning things and expressing their thoughts because they were afraid of others putting them down for that. There are certain dynamics that encourage learning and others that do not. Basidini, I can very much relate to you. But you are helping me learn things about myself. Like what? Well, I too, feel that I have spent more time, in general, than the average individual pondering things like freedom, responsibility, love, learning, humanity, etc. I would like poeple to recognize that too. It's been my life's work. As far as I'm concerned when people were out clubbing, I was researching life in genral. But honestly, everyone, ought to learn to consider these immensely yet underated topics. Everyone! People need to be autonomous, think for themselves, to get the ANSWERS from you or anyone else in particular may not neccessarily help the matter. My sociology teacher, god bless her soul, asserted that human nature was made up. BUt I doubt she would have said that if she would have known about the philosophy of language and the etymology of words to the extent and fashion that is possible. Why? And I just happenned to learn this-- personality psychologists say: what you notice is a function of your personality-- that has so many implications anyways. This is very important: The word human, etymologically (etymology: the study of word origins) speaking, is made up of the word hubris and man. Hubris, which currently in the modern dictionary means overbearing pride or arrogance--(greek etymology) also refers to the state of being where man puts himself before god, in other words man makes himself the center of the universe. Then, consider the word order in the term human nature, notice how human is before nature putting forth the meaning that human nature refers to that state of being where man/woman puts him or herself before god, nature, the universe, whatever you want to call that thing that precedes and precludes life. Thus, to some extent, the world we live in today is one of human nature. Of course, my sociology teacher, showered by the acedemic discilpline of sociology but yet unfamilliar with etymology and philosophy would not have picked up on that. But her point was to dispell (break) the myth that human nature exists because humans often think that synthetic type things are natural. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Sat May 28, 2005 @ 2:46pm |
 Coolness: 145915 | man what a douche you are cinderella soul i so don t give two fucks what you think about anything, you should learn to mind your own bussiness maybe
neoform i m sorry for being so harsh with you |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sat May 28, 2005 @ 8:48pm |
| Coolness: 340380 | aww, it's all love *kisses ian*
.. 0_o *makes out with ian* |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Sun May 29, 2005 @ 3:31pm |
| Coolness: 145915 | i love you too neoform even if you are a dirty patriachacal conserative,
you can always rape my pleasure hole... |
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