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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Tue May 17, 2005 @ 11:50pm |
 Coolness: 146145 | Originally posted by DJNEOFORM...
nope. i totally disagree, the fact that many poorer countries are packed with people with.... LESS.. does not mean they would not crave MORE.. being liberal is all about letting society choose which direction it will take. it's about evolution. conservatism is all about restraining evolution in hopes to keep things proper and nice. if we did not allow liberalism to take it's course.. well we'd be living in the past. freedom is something no one should ever argue against because it is ALWAYS better than having someone else restrain you saying you're not allowed to do it because someone else finds it inproper. what would happen if you were sitting on a park bench making out with your girlfriend when a cop arrests you for indecent acts in public? or if your neighbor tipped off the cops that he/she thinks you were doing some naughty things in your appartment...? freedom is never bad. ever. JESUS CHRIST NEOFORM DO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW STUPID YOU SOUND if a conservative (like george bush) read what you just wrote he would be laughing at you cause you just played into his hands this is why i get pissed off with you ian cause you dont even understand what you are saying sometimes, imagine what that does to people who read it... damit neoform you need to clean up your head a little you call yourself a liberal? without looking it up who is the father of modern liberalism?????? if you can answer that without loooking it up i will never say you don t know what your talking about again i promise but if you can t answer that without looking it up (and no one will kowbut you if you do) you have a serious problem and you should probobly stop poisoning other peoples mind with your cracker jack box political science think about it is freeddom ALWAYS in EVERY case the best thing for the situation? if i am free to fuck other women will i necessarily have a good relationship with my wife/girlfriend |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Tue May 17, 2005 @ 11:51pm |
| Coolness: 146145 | freedom is never bad. ever. thats what bush thinks |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Tue May 17, 2005 @ 11:54pm |
 Coolness: 340610 | i read one line, then skipped the rest. if you want me to read something you write don't start off by insulting me. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Tue May 17, 2005 @ 11:57pm |
| Coolness: 146145 | dude you don t know a thing about freedom you only think you do |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Tue May 17, 2005 @ 11:59pm |
| Coolness: 340610 | and you know it so much more than me? why? because you've had it taken away at one point or another?
not everyone is as blind as you seem to think. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 12:03am |
| Coolness: 146145 | dude i m not trying to diss you
i do know a bit about freedom not alot but a little, i had to write 25 page papers on it, so ya i do know something about it... dude if you really believe what you wrote there you should vote conservative next election they are the people who can best defend your interests sorry i flipped a bit there dude, but i just about had a heart attack when i read that |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 12:04am |
| Coolness: 340610 | sorry but writing a 25 page paper does not make you more in tune with freedom than anyone else.
want to know freedom? go to prison for a year then walk out. then you'll know freedom. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 12:15am |
| Coolness: 146145 | you still are not understanding me, nothing changes ehhh
you don t even know what it means to be liberal i spend my entire day thinking about what words like democracy freedom rights equality government MEAN thats not to say that you cannot or could never know what they mean, just you don t know now, maybe you could learn i don t know.... if i needed my computer fixed (speaking of which...) i would ask you cause very few other people could fix it so well, and that is your gift...i salut you for that on the other if you had a question about something like say a movement through history in ART, SCIENCE, or PHILOSOPHY i would probobly be one of the better people to ask on this site...K dude sometimes simple two line answer don t cut it, sometimes things are complicated, you need to learn that... ps you know i have nothing but respect for you and your ideas K so just chill, if you think you are right prove it like the good little liberal you if you cant do that your WRONG, thats the way a democracy works |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 12:16am |
| Coolness: 340610 | uhm, my skill is not fixing computers btw.. i actually hate fixing computers. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 12:20am |
| Coolness: 146145 | avoid the questions ian cause thats what conservatives like you are good at |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 12:22am |
| Coolness: 340610 | man, you label me so easily. i'm not a conservative. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 12:23am |
| Coolness: 146145 | you sound and act like one |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 12:24am |
| Coolness: 340610 | and what makes me sound/act like one? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 12:29am |
| Coolness: 146145 | well...i m a little harsh on you sometimes dude, hell atleast your still an atheist, by the way i cant beleive i just said that,
your political, and shall we say, broadly philosophical views, are those of conservativism, not hard core conservativism but a conservative none the less... atleast you seem to value "freedom" over "order" so to speak, so maybe its not all bad |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 12:49am |
| Coolness: 146145 | whats this is neoform silent
maybe he just realized what i m trying to communicate to him he doesnt know shit half the time he opens his mouth, so just remeber that boys and girls.... if he grows some bawls maybe he can answer back, if not i guess we all know who he is going to vote for next election and the next and the next |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 1:27am |
 Coolness: 93210 | So what do freedom and liberalism mean? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 1:29am |
| Coolness: 93210 | I value freedom over order and it's not cause I don't know any better it' cause that's my opinion on how people have the right to live. No philosophy class is gonna change my mind. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 2:12am |
| Coolness: 146145 | sure but you might understand better why you beleive that |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 2:50am |
| Coolness: 93210 | Perhaps... I think I'm having trouble understanding what this debate is about so I'm just gonna stay outti. The words conservative and liberal are just words to me anyway. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 8:07am |
| Coolness: 340610 | Originally posted by BASDINI...
whats this is neoform silent maybe he just realized what i m trying to communicate to him he doesnt know shit half the time he opens his mouth, so just remeber that boys and girls.... if he grows some bawls maybe he can answer back, if not i guess we all know who he is going to vote for next election and the next and the next uhhh, i went to bed, not everyone stays up till 1:40am.. |
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