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Attn: All Concordia Students
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» michaeldino replied on Thu Mar 10, 2005 @ 12:09pm
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Very Important Read:

To all Concordia students, this was forwarded to me...

At the assembly this afternoon, the majority of people who showed up were in favour of the strike. A one day strike was proposed and the motion passed as a large majority took it. The strike is scheduled for next Wednesday, March 16th. Worse, a motion was proposed for an unlimited strike which would wipe out our whole semester. Again, it passed, but by a smaller margin. However, since there was no quorum (I'm not a poli sci student but I'll explain it as best as I can),
meaning there wasn't enough people to vote for the second proposal, the proposal could not be adopted. As is, there will be another general meeting in regards to an unlimited strike sometime in the very near future. In order for there to be quorum, all they need is 2.5% of Concordia's students to vote. From what I understand (the official numbers might be different), that represents 753 people. That means if 377 people vote yes for an unlimited strike and 376 vote NO, all Concordia goes on strike. TRUST ME ON THIS...ALL THE YES PEOPLE ARE THE ONLY ONES VOTING. The CSU which is in favor of a 1 day strike but against an unlimited strike (again, I don't know if this is their official position but I understand this is what they voted today) held
a petition today asking what people wanted, a 1 day strike, a 3 day strike or no action. I saw that petition, and those voting, voted unlimited strike by a majority. Take this into consideration, INACTION will not save your semester. The people who are voting yes
are skipping their classes/activities to vote YES and they will cause other students to suffer. If you don't want to lose your semester, you have to ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY SHOW UP AND VOTE NO if that's what your intentions are ( I didn't get any disgruntled people write back to me so I assume most people do not want to go on strike). Please
stay informed, check out the concordia site, check out the news (trust me we made the news), more importantly check out the CSU webpage for news. [ csu.concordia.ca ] [ csu.concordia.ca ] People, the YES voters will do what they have to, skip class, protest to get their message across, etc. We have to do the same. There will be a quorum next time and I'm positive 100% of the Yes voters will vote. DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO BUT VOTE at the next assembly!! MORE IMPORTANTLY..... PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW.. These are my opinions which I tried to base as much as possible on solid information. THE REST IS UP TO YOU, INDIVIDUALLY!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Thu Mar 10, 2005 @ 1:59pm
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seeing as I am in 3 6credit year-long classes I'd be pretty god damn pissed if I lost my semester
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» elixireleven replied on Thu Mar 10, 2005 @ 2:00pm
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When's the next assembly?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» michaeldino replied on Thu Mar 10, 2005 @ 2:43pm
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it hasn;t been decided yet.. I'll keep you posted
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» elixireleven replied on Thu Mar 10, 2005 @ 3:19pm
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gracias.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» somekid replied on Thu Mar 10, 2005 @ 3:21pm
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My friend alex was on the news last night. He's very anti strike and presented his opinions very well compaired to the crazy radical that he was debating. Now my friend is getting tones of hate mail. What would happend if I lost a semester in a 6 credit course cause I have two of them?... do I still have to pay my school fees cuase I haven't paid yet... I have shit due next wednesday I guess I have a one day extention... or maybe I will cross the picket line... ok back to work.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Thu Mar 10, 2005 @ 3:23pm
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I'd demand my money back, and then I'd never go to the school again... Strikes work? no ?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» IMDeadAlready replied on Thu Mar 10, 2005 @ 3:23pm
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Just set fire to the protesters, they're always wrong anyway.
"The US military is developing a weapon that delivers a bout of excruciating pain from afar to use against protesters..."
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Thu Mar 10, 2005 @ 4:13pm
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hasta la victoria siempre
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» somekid replied on Thu Mar 10, 2005 @ 4:36pm
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^^ You were on the news too!
link only good until 6 pm: [ www.cbc.ca ]
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Zz.ee.vV replied on Thu Mar 10, 2005 @ 6:34pm
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so was my sister, haha.

i forwarded this to all the concordia peeps i know...

who the fuck would want to lose a semester anyways? unless you're a total underachiever and KNEW you were getting F's anyways... oh wait a second, guess all those in favor must belong in that category.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BA_Baracus replied on Thu Mar 10, 2005 @ 7:43pm
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yo i wouldnt have been able to finish mcgill without govt money, i think its super wack theyre taking it back...concordia and mcgill should join all the rest of quebec and strike all the time, not some pansy ass 1 day pretend strike... woohoo gaza U!

true i m not in school now so i cant say how i'd feel about losing a semester but still...
the student unions should try to get past graduates (ie. general public) involved...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Thu Mar 10, 2005 @ 7:47pm
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hah, the general public agrees with the raise.
as do i.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Thu Mar 10, 2005 @ 7:50pm
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it would be that much harder to make the decision when actually in the situation (losing a semester). But I agree that a longer strike could be mundo more effective... we as a people should build a support network for times when people have to do prolonged strikes...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PaT_ replied on Thu Mar 10, 2005 @ 8:22pm
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mass madness,

at least once a day, in one of my courses we talk about the strike and all the shenanigans but would someone wanna post a very detailed explanation of why the universities and french cegep are on strike?

i unno if my school is going on strike, i dont think they are but wtv it's still quite the talk of the school...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Thu Mar 10, 2005 @ 8:31pm
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I want my credits I worked a year for then they can go on strike all they want
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Thu Mar 10, 2005 @ 8:36pm
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see there is no valid reason for the strike, they're complaining cause now they're going to have to pay more for tuition.. GOLLY THAT SOUNDS HORRIBLE.

there would be a reason for this strike *IF* tuitions were already high, BUT THEY'RE NOT. Infact, they're the lowest in north america. Like what the hell is wrong with people?? You can't have fucking everything for free. Learn to work for what you get and maybe you wont be so shocked when the bill comes.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Thu Mar 10, 2005 @ 8:47pm
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It's different when you pay for school instead of your parents. Still I don't want to lose the class credits I already paid for NOW...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» A_Princess replied on Thu Mar 10, 2005 @ 8:49pm
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If i lose a semester and all my sacrificed nights of partying to stay home and do homework go unaccounted for I'll be one pissed off ex-concordia student. Fuck that. We work too goddam hard to fucking lose an entire semester.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» TONES replied on Thu Mar 10, 2005 @ 9:03pm
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Originally posted by PAT...

mass madness,

at least once a day, in one of my courses we talk about the strike and all the shenanigans but would someone wanna post a very detailed explanation of why the universities and french cegep are on strike?

i unno if my school is going on strike, i dont think they are but wtv it's still quite the talk of the school...


Quebec has a long history of being the most socially-oriented area in North America. The cut will not hurt the average, middle-income person but the poor. In deciding wether to invest in his or her education, a poor person would have less incentive to go to school and that goes against Quebec's values. If less poor people go to university and Cegep, that hurts our society as a whole because income inequality will ultimately rise (the rich and middle-income classes will still be rich and the poor will get poorer because they will chose not to go to school).

Moreover, it is not because tuition fees are low now that we have to raise them - thats just backward-ass thinking and a weak argument. Why take our wonderful system and tamper with it. Furthermore, one hundred million dollars in cuts will make such a measely difference for government and such a big one for disadvantaged students that it is preposterous to accept this.

Finally, Charest promised not to cut tuitions during the elections, so its also a matter of not letting the Liberals get away with this. I voted for him and i never will again, fucking douche.

I'm not trying to convince anyone to go on strike. I am merely stating a few arguments in favour of the latter.

Personally, i got straight A's in my midterms and i'm looking to increase my GPA, so it would really suck for me if they cancelled the term. I'm also in the final stretch of a long and tough 6 credit class. So i dont want McGill tyo strike, and they wont.
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