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Destroying Ancient Forests For Kleenex
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Tue Feb 15, 2005 @ 8:01pm
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Looks like Kimberley-Clark maker of "kleenex" is tearing up the boreal forest to make its goods.

[ www.greenpeace.org ]
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Tue Feb 15, 2005 @ 8:02pm
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the article:

Kimberly-Clark: wiping away our ancient forests

Wed 26 January 2005
CANADA/Boreal Forest
Kimberly-Clark is the largest tissue product company in the world, making brands such as Kleenex. But every time you flush a piece of Kleenex toilet paper you're also flushing away Canada's oldest forests.

In North America, less than 19 percent of the pulp Kimberly-Clark uses for its disposable tissue products (including toilet paper, facial tissue, napkins and paper towels) comes from recycled sources. The rest is made from forests, many of which have existed for thousands of years. For example, Kimberly-Clark's own documents show that it is logging intact forests in the Canadian Boreal containing trees that are upwards of 180 years old. The Boreal forest is the largest ancient forest left in North America and the habitat of such species as grizzly and black bears, woodland caribou, wolves, bald eagles, and boreal owls.

Kleercut

Much of the virgin tree fibre Kimberly-Clark uses for its tissue products comes from unsustainably logged forests. These forests are predominantly logged in clearcuts - a devastating form of logging where most if not all trees are removed from an area of forest. What's left behind is a barren landscape that can no longer support wildlife species.

Gettin' snotty

Kimberly-Clark claims to be an environmental leader. But for decades they have unsustainably cleared ancient forests to manufacture products that are used only once and then thrown away.

Tissue products containing high amounts of recycled and FSC-certified fibres are of comparable quality and price to virgin fibre products - despite Kimberly-Clark's claims to the contrary. (For examples, see the Canadian Shoppers Guide).

Here are two of the most important actions that concerned consumers can take:

* Stop buying Kimberly-Clark products including Kleenex brand products and start buying forest friendly alternatives, and
* Let Kimberly-Clark know that you want them to stop clearcutting ancient forests like Canada's Boreal. You can send them a message at [ kleercut.net ]

Pulp fiction

Although Kimberly-Clark will tell you that they buy their pulp from sustainably managed forests, the majority of its pulp is actually from logging operations that do not meet our recognized standard of sustainability. We consider only one set of standards to be a credible measure of sustainability: the Forest Stewardship Council's (FSC) management and certification system.

Many of the logging companies that Kimberly-Clark does buy pulp from are certified by such schemes as the Sustainable Forestry Initiative or the Canadian Standards Association. Both of these systems are created by industry for industry and are neither ecologically nor socially progressive.

Don't flush ancient forests down the toilet - take action!

Greenpeace Canada and its allies including activists like you are asking Kimberly-Clark to:

* Immediately stop purchasing virgin fibre from endangered forests
* Drastically increase the amount of recycled fibre that they use for all their tissue products including Kleenex brand toilet paper, facial tissue and napkins
* Begin purchasing fibre from Forest Stewardship Council (FSC) eco-certified forests. The FSC is the only guarantee that forests are managed sustainably.
* Phase out the use of damaging chlorine dioxide to bleach tissue

Check out [ www.kleercut.net ] now to find out more and take action!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Tue Feb 15, 2005 @ 8:09pm
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That's sad, I think I might cry, better bust out the kleenex
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Tue Feb 15, 2005 @ 8:13pm
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lol... environmentally friendly tear-tissue you mean.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Tue Feb 15, 2005 @ 8:18pm
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i wonder if hippies wipe their asses after taking a dump.. if they do, they're damn hypocrites.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» IMDeadAlready replied on Tue Feb 15, 2005 @ 10:01pm
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They use a series of pine cones and sometimes they pull them in the wrong direction.

Envromentalist don't give a shit about the enviroment.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Tue Feb 15, 2005 @ 10:20pm
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i've met way too many people who say they care about the environment.. only to find out they only care about one small aspect of the environment..

wanna be realistic about it?
STOP WASTING SHIT.

don't take 30min+ showers.. hot water = clean water + electricity..

don't leave all the lights on in your apt/house.

don't buy excessive amounts of things you aren't going to use..

(clothing comes to mind, does anyone really need as much clothing as they own?)
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» hayley replied on Tue Feb 15, 2005 @ 11:22pm
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omg greenpeace is run by a bunch of corrupt-o idiots. to hell with greenpeace and their compatriots!!!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Tue Feb 15, 2005 @ 11:36pm
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run by a bunch of corrupt-o idiots... eh? How do you figure? Because you say so....

I personally don't know greenpeace all that well. I've seen that they have done some pro-nature/poeple stuff.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Tue Feb 15, 2005 @ 11:40pm
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caring about one small part of the environment is better than caring about none of it.
Yes, there are many little things people can do to help the environment as you mentioned neoform. ACtually, those little things add up and they are not so little anymore.

the boreal forest is by far a relatively large part of the environment.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mali replied on Tue Feb 15, 2005 @ 11:41pm
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We already destroyed the world.. it is going to blow up sooner or later. Oh well!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» IMDeadAlready replied on Tue Feb 15, 2005 @ 11:51pm
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Please refer to my profile: [ rave.ca ]

There's absolutely nothing wrong with the planet. it's simply going to make itself uninhabitable by humans and after we're gone it's going to re-new itself for the remaining years until the sun burns out.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mali replied on Tue Feb 15, 2005 @ 11:58pm
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After all the oil is gone, which will be in 100 years or maybe even 50, there wil be chaos. No oil.. no need to live
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Tue Feb 15, 2005 @ 11:58pm
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PEOPLE may, once again even, make the planet uninhabitable until nature renews itself, potentially enabling humans to live on it again.

^^They may or they might... nothing is inevitable.

You know what it PROBABLy will happen the way you say it will , more or less. But not necessarily.

Even though alot people seem like they don't care...they actually do. How cocky of me...but true...
Change is inevitable..for better or worse...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mali replied on Tue Feb 15, 2005 @ 11:59pm
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I would only care for my children's future
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Wed Feb 16, 2005 @ 12:10am
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of course, you would.

instead of doing this whole save the environment business...you might consider getting enough money to build a bomb/disaster chamber so that you can save but you are your family. Mind you, after the dust settles... you might have to fight mr. bush.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» IMDeadAlready replied on Wed Feb 16, 2005 @ 12:16am
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It doesn't matter how many people you convince because there's always going to be those people who ruin it for everyone else.

The planet itself is a living thing. It could defend itself and make us extinct if we become a threat. All the while it will live on.

Or else it will kill a bunch of us so that we'll learn a lesson, and I'm all for that. Since death is functional, I'm in favour of a lot of people dying because we've practically eliminated natural selection, became too soft so the result is a mass of stupid and ignorant people all over the planet.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» IMDeadAlready replied on Wed Feb 16, 2005 @ 12:21am
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And we wouldn't be explaining things like this on messege boards to people like you.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» little_sarah replied on Wed Feb 16, 2005 @ 12:27am
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wasting kleenex is my favorite past time
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Wed Feb 16, 2005 @ 12:27am
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I like the way you think. Probably cause you think like I do. nah, well, yes, but it's realistic too.

Except the first paragraph... there is always going to be those people who ruin it for everyone else... are you sure? I am not. I can see the value in considering that the problem of evil won't dissapear.. but it sounds to me like you are saying evil will conquer over good.
Is that what you are saying...?

I'm all for learning a lesson too.. Hey whatever gets the message across.. it's only natural. I am not to argue with that.

we have PRACTICALLY eliminated natural selection in our day to day lives... because of things like valuing things with relatively no survival value. People, in general, are rather unintelligent.. it is not surprising considering all of the history (past) that we are apparently above and beyond.
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