Anyone Interes. In A Rave Dance-A-Thon?
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» blop replied on Sat Jan 22, 2005 @ 6:27pm |
 Coolness: 201220 | Anyone interes. in an anal rape-a-thon?
-slalla |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey replied on Sat Jan 22, 2005 @ 9:44pm |
 Coolness: 103455 | ^^ you can't be a contestant in a anal rape-a-thon, because clearly you have an advantage.
------------------------------------- Why make a event sorely on dancing? (liquiding, popping, etc.., whatever you kids called it this day). "why look at me i can dance!!" Isn't it better to hook up with people of similar interest and go to a preexisting party to dance? anyway. good luck in your endeavor. and btw... ;) [ www.rave.ca ] |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Mon Jan 24, 2005 @ 8:57am |
 Coolness: 51660 | actually cinderella soul, you DID mention coverage, in your second post in this thread. but then it would appear that you edited your post and removed the part where you mentioned coverage.
you mentioned something about elements of the hip hop culture getting coverage and how the "rave scene was virtually unnoticed... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Toltech replied on Mon Jan 24, 2005 @ 9:29am |
 Coolness: 146110 | yeah that's true....I was there. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Mon Jan 24, 2005 @ 10:48am |
 Coolness: 159810 | Why not go with another already mediatized form of music then ? Like MC Mario-style dance music ? I mean, it plays on every goddam radio station, a lot of people are already aware about it thus a LOT of people will identify to it and it will attract more people than a " rave dance-o-thon ".
Don't get me wrong but I think the whole " rave " theme here is used to taint the event in an air of " coolness " since, well, raves are so IN right now with teenagers. Raves were never meant be themes to dance-a-thons, special nights in bars and huge stadium-events but somehow, it got horribly out of hand and instead of toning it down, EVERYONE figured " well, what the f**k it's screwed now, let's milk it for all it's got ". Yeah I may be a tad protective but for countless years, people have capitalized on a movement which was originally designed as a small-scale rebellion against commercialism, spotlights and popularity yet, became EXACTLY that because of lack of care and maturity by the ones who used to swear by PLUR and originality a while ago. Just goes to show, you're better off not sharing your toys sometimes. Now, I'm not saying you are trying to make it even worse there Cinderella Soul but you'll excuse me if I see this as sort of make a mockery of raves, which it has been ridiculized enough as it is I think. I mean, raves were not designed for fundraisings. What's next ? Rave aerobics ? Rave For Life ( as part of the new Fit For Life program ) ? Rave music for tottlers ? Rave outfits at Wal-Mart ? Rave for Tsunamis ? Rave Puffs cereal ( free glowstick inside every box ) ? You get the point. :) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Mon Jan 24, 2005 @ 10:52am |
| Coolness: 51660 | they already have rave aerobics in some gyms.. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Toltech replied on Mon Jan 24, 2005 @ 11:16am |
| Coolness: 146110 | raves have already influenced big ass clothing companies.....remember the platform shoes at Yellow?! hehehe yeah hi....there already is Trance for kids btw....what else? Remeber that skit from SNL with Will Ferrel and the cereal box...I think it was Lucky Charms "Now with Ecstasy....MDMA inside." and he tries to bone his boss at work and doesn't sleep at night playing with glowsticks?....it's all been done....except for having big dj mixes on commercial radios.....who knows though? look at Europe and Latin America....they got that. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PartyPopple replied on Mon Jan 24, 2005 @ 1:30pm |
 Coolness: 64105 | pixelized: I agree with most of your comments, but I think that raves can be used as fundraisers.I think the idea of raising money for a good cause while having a great time definitely upholds the ideals of PLUR. I think using our parties to somehow help other people doesn`t hurt the scene at all. :) Anyway, I agreed with everything else you said :) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey replied on Mon Jan 24, 2005 @ 8:19pm |
| Coolness: 103455 | Originally posted by TOLTECH ...
raves have already influenced big ass clothing companies.....remember the platform shoes at Yellow?! hehehe yeah hi....there already is Trance for kids btw....what else? Remeber that skit from SNL with Will Ferrel and the cereal box...I think it was Lucky Charms "Now with Ecstasy....MDMA inside." and he tries to bone his boss at work and doesn't sleep at night playing with glowsticks?....it's all been done....except for having big dj mixes on commercial radios.....who knows though? look at Europe and Latin America....they got that.  |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» snakestyle replied on Mon Jan 24, 2005 @ 9:16pm |
 Coolness: 48510 | Someone took all the madma, those bastards |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Toltech replied on Mon Jan 24, 2005 @ 10:15pm |
| Coolness: 146110 | the magma? lava? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Tue Jan 25, 2005 @ 12:45am |
 Coolness: 92380 | in T.O raves theres often a crew of really good liquid dancers performing. its impressive, but it often splits the crowd into "performers" and "spectators", who just stand around and watch the few ppl who are dancing. it kills the spirit. ideally, in a rave, everyone should be a participant and do their own dance thang, and not have to worry about whether others perceive them as being good dancers or not. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Wed Jan 26, 2005 @ 9:47am |
 Coolness: 56890 | Originally posted by SPEEDY...
call me sarcastic, wow i find its so enlightning how you can see things for there various great ways and how this earth has such a fine balance and works so perfectly in harmony with everything else There's nothing like praise to brighten my day. I much prefer the sun, however. Keep shining.. maybe one day you'll burn out. Peace, love and happiness.... I'm just playing with you like a clitoris. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Wed Jan 26, 2005 @ 9:52am |
| Coolness: 56890 | Originally posted by MORPHINE...
actually cinderella soul, you DID mention coverage, in your second post in this thread. but then it would appear that you edited your post and removed the part where you mentioned coverage. you mentioned something about elements of the hip hop culture getting coverage and how the "rave scene was virtually unnoticed... It's true I did mention that the rave DANCE scene was virtually non-existent on the web. But the minute you have a party wether the media is invited or it's just the local hoodlums, one can get coverage. I wasn't trying to decieve y'all. If I deleted something, it was because what I said could have been clearer. Many people are curious about the rave dance scene, those in it and those who want to be in it. Coverage can be a good thing. Mass media coverage I think i am alsways sceptical about. Since they tend to add their biases. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Wed Jan 26, 2005 @ 9:57am |
| Coolness: 56890 | Originally posted by TREY...
^^ you can't be a contestant in a anal rape-a-thon, because clearly you have an advantage. ------------------------------------- Why make a event sorely on dancing? (liquiding, popping, etc.., whatever you kids called it this day). "why look at me i can dance!!" Isn't it better to hook up with people of similar interest and go to a preexisting party to dance? anyway. good luck in your endeavor. and btw... ;) [ www.rave.ca ] Because some people like me and many others value dancing as a transformative tool- A tool to express oneself with. The arts that benefit people in these ways need to be further explored and utilized. Dancing can be a fantastic tool and should have a place in montreal. I hear what you are saying and maybe you're right. BUt I think in the rave scene, despite the apparent centrality of dancing, there is way more focus on the Dj's and promoters (those who have the means of production). A focus on the dancers would be less capitalist. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Wed Jan 26, 2005 @ 10:07am |
| Coolness: 56890 | Originally posted by ::PIXELIZED::...
Why not go with another already mediatized form of music then ? Like MC Mario-style dance music ? I mean, it plays on every goddam radio station, a lot of people are already aware about it thus a LOT of people will identify to it and it will attract more people than a " rave dance-o-thon ". Don't get me wrong but I think the whole " rave " theme here is used to taint the event in an air of " coolness " since, well, raves are so IN right now with teenagers. Raves were never meant be themes to dance-a-thons, special nights in bars and huge stadium-events but somehow, it got horribly out of hand and instead of toning it down, EVERYONE figured " well, what the f**k it's screwed now, let's milk it for all it's got ". Yeah I may be a tad protective but for countless years, people have capitalized on a movement which was originally designed as a small-scale rebellion against commercialism, spotlights and popularity yet, became EXACTLY that because of lack of care and maturity by the ones who used to swear by PLUR and originality a while ago. Just goes to show, you're better off not sharing your toys sometimes. Now, I'm not saying you are trying to make it even worse there Cinderella Soul but you'll excuse me if I see this as sort of make a mockery of raves, which it has been ridiculized enough as it is I think. I mean, raves were not designed for fundraisings. What's next ? Rave aerobics ? Rave For Life ( as part of the new Fit For Life program ) ? Rave music for tottlers ? Rave outfits at Wal-Mart ? Rave for Tsunamis ? Rave Puffs cereal ( free glowstick inside every box ) ? You get the point. :) I appreciate your comments. I think you care about the scene- the people. I could be wrong. But whatever. The last thing I want to do is capitalize the rave scene. I agree it's been capitalized on enough by people who acted like politicians and other seedy characters. My goal is not to get the most people involved or else I would pick Mc mario type music, I suppose. As a dancer, I have found alot of promise in trance music specifically. I think that trance music and dancing to it deserves exploration. I know it might sound cheezy to say that trance music shows promise in my eyes. But what I mean is that through trance-dancing I have reached other states of consciousness. I think that to achieve these altered states of consciousness trance music is ideal and it's this phenomenon I want to explore further. Anyone who knows me, knows that I am here for justice and true justice is far from capitalism. I know it's easy. But before you put me in a box along with the rest of the "juicers", please get to know me. I'm not saying that you have put me in a "box". I'm just asking that you give me a chance. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Wed Jan 26, 2005 @ 10:09am |
| Coolness: 56890 | Originally posted by PARTY*POPPLE...
pixelized: I agree with most of your comments, but I think that raves can be used as fundraisers.I think the idea of raising money for a good cause while having a great time definitely upholds the ideals of PLUR. I think using our parties to somehow help other people doesn`t hurt the scene at all. :) Anyway, I agreed with everything else you said :) I agree with you. Too often, the money is going into the hands of crooked characters. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Wed Jan 26, 2005 @ 10:14am |
| Coolness: 56890 | Originally posted by POISONED CANDY...
in T.O raves theres often a crew of really good liquid dancers performing. its impressive, but it often splits the crowd into "performers" and "spectators", who just stand around and watch the few ppl who are dancing. it kills the spirit. ideally, in a rave, everyone should be a participant and do their own dance thang, and not have to worry about whether others perceive them as being good dancers or not. That's a very good point. And I am all for decreasing feeling's of self-consciousness. I mean I enjoy dancing in a spirit of fun, not competition. People ought to be able to express themselves whole-heartedly. But what about people who would like to have a career as a dancer? I've seen dance shows at raves and it did not seem to impede the dancing of the club-goers. I don't know. I'm going to reflect on what you said. I think you made a good point. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Wed Jan 26, 2005 @ 12:52pm |
| Coolness: 56890 | Originally posted by POISONED CANDY...
in T.O raves theres often a crew of really good liquid dancers performing. its impressive, but it often splits the crowd into "performers" and "spectators", who just stand around and watch the few ppl who are dancing. it kills the spirit. ideally, in a rave, everyone should be a participant and do their own dance thang, and not have to worry about whether others perceive them as being good dancers or not. you don't think that the relationship between Dj and dancer has the same effect of producing performer/spectator? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Wed Jan 26, 2005 @ 1:26pm |
| Coolness: 51660 | i dont know what youre saying. youre saying coverage is good, coverage is bad, coverage is inevitable......? you seem to be constantly downplaying the role of media coverage and then saying it could be a good thing.
and what does this mean: Too often, the money is going into the hands of crooked characters. does it mean that too often the funds gained from throwing a party end up in the hands of crooked characters, like, for example the hells angels? does it mean that too often when a party gets thrown and the guy thats throwing the party doesnt donate the money to charity then he is " a crooked character"? theres too many issues on the table here, this thread is spiralling into incoherence. |
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