Iran Was Behind Hezbollah-Israel War
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Wed Sep 6, 2006 @ 8:52am |
 Coolness: 51225 | Iran Focus
London, Aug. 16 – Iran masterminded the July 12 attack on an Israeli military squad by the Lebanese militia Hezbollah which ignited a major military offensive against the group by the Jewish state, Iran Focus has learnt. A well-placed source inside the clerical establishment told Iran Focus that prior to the start of hostilities Tehran dispatched several top officials including the chief of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) to attend a summit in Syria which took place on July 4 and focused on ways to upset the regional balance in the Middle East. Hassan Khomeini, the grandson of the founder of the Islamic Republic, travelled to the Syrian capital last month, staying in Damascus between July 1 and 6 under the cover of pilgrimage to a revered Shiite Muslim shrine. Simultaneously, several top Hezbollah officials arrived in Damascus for what they claimed was to meet Hassan Khomeini. On July 4, the secretary general of Iran’s Supreme National Security Council (SNSC) Ali Larijani made an unannounced trip to the Syrian capital. The Supreme Commander of the IRGC Major General Yahya Rahim Safavi and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of the Staff of the Islamic Republic’s armed forces Major General Hassan Firouzabadi also secretly travelled to Damascus to attend the summit. The summit, which was held at the Iranian embassy in Damascus, was also attended by top Syrian security officials and Iran’s ambassador to Syria Hassan Akhtari. The radical Shiite cleric was formerly the chief of staff of Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. During the summit a politico-military strategy was drawn up for a possible attack by Hezbollah fighters against Israel to trigger a regional war, and the militia was called on to prepare for an offensive. Days later, on July 11, following a round of talks in Brussels with European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana on Iran’s nuclear standoff with the West, Larijani made a second unannounced to trip to Damascus. There he met and held talks with Syrian Vice-President Farouk al-Shara, making the final arrangements for the actions that were to follow. Finally, while meeting a top Hezbollah official in the Iranian embassy, Larijani gave the order for the Lebanese militia to mount the cross-border attack on the Jewish state, triggering the 34-day war which has left 157 Israelis and 1,110 Lebanese dead. [ www.iranfocus.com ] |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» bob_ replied on Wed Sep 6, 2006 @ 11:52am |
 Coolness: 102460 | don't tell me that you're suprised |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Wed Sep 6, 2006 @ 12:11pm |
| Coolness: 51225 | yeah i kind of am!! i thought it was the evil, all poweful zionist pigs who had started the war. it COULDNT have been due to the help a brutal theocratic regime ruled by an anti-semitic lunatic..... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Sep 6, 2006 @ 12:29pm |
 Coolness: 339920 | hey wait, halloween is on the 31st of october this year..?! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Fri Sep 8, 2006 @ 3:02am |
 Coolness: 145455 | it's not over you know that right guys...just cooling for a bit... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Fri Sep 8, 2006 @ 3:11am |
 Coolness: 685845 | well, DUH! Peace in the middle east is an oxymoron. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Fri Sep 8, 2006 @ 5:34pm |
 Coolness: 201480 | well hopefully one day the countries will become democratic instead of religious theocracies. But that won't happen until people realize there is more to life than pleasing an invisible person in the sky. Also all the kings and shit who own oil fields and opress their people while hoarding all the cash need to be eliminated (Bush also falls under this). Eventually women will have more rights and all that too. We were just like this 200 years ago but we got over it.
You can't have advancement if you let religion dictate your people and your country. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Sat Sep 9, 2006 @ 10:55pm |
| Coolness: 145455 | ^dude you don't understand a thing...people like you are the reason iraq was invaded...so democracy could be imposed by force.
get it right, people are allowed to live their lives acording what ever dictum their communities chose, these people are happy living with their religious laws, go talk to any one of those girls who have the veils at concordia and they will tell you the same things. It's not right to push atheism on other people who want be religious... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sat Sep 9, 2006 @ 11:03pm |
| Coolness: 339920 | Originally Posted By BASDINI
^dude you don't understand a thing...people like you are the reason iraq was invaded...so democracy could be imposed by force. get it right, people are allowed to live their lives acording what ever dictum their communities chose, these people are happy living with their religious laws, go talk to any one of those girls who have the veils at concordia and they will tell you the same things. It's not right to push atheism on other people who want be religious... Even though i dislike religion, I'm going with Ian on this one, live and let live. It's not your place to tell other how to live, nevermind someone thousands of miles away in a different country. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sun Sep 10, 2006 @ 7:05pm |
| Coolness: 201480 | Basdini the problem is these religious laws are starting to be impossed on all of us in democratic countries under the "freedom of religion" clause. E.G. insulting a religion will become a "hate crime". This is directly due to the brainwashing of citizens in fascist theocracies trying to impose their beliefs on the rest of the world. It's exactly what I mentioned before BUT IN REVERSE.. The DESTRUCTION of democracy due to religious influence.
It is happening right now in the USA with the christian-right and in many european countries with the pressure to make questioning the beliefs of Islam illegal to all citizens. People are allowed to live they want, I don't care if women wear veils, at least they have to right to vote or drive a car in our democratic country. They don't in Saudi Arabia. RELIGION SHOULD BE A CHOICE, NOT THE LAW. How clear do I have to make this? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sun Sep 10, 2006 @ 10:34pm |
| Coolness: 339920 | Yep, and when this comes to Canada, You'll see me rioting in the street to have it stopped. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sun Sep 10, 2006 @ 10:53pm |
| Coolness: 201480 | Well people are letting it happen in Canada right now. It's better to speak out and not have to riot when it goes out of hand. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Mon Sep 11, 2006 @ 12:27am |
| Coolness: 145455 | you still don't get it scott...
in some countries it should be the law, the ones where the people want it to be the law. this is the debate which rages in ethics today between universalism and communitarianism. i used to really support the universalist position but these days i'm not so sure it's the answer to all our problems. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Mon Sep 11, 2006 @ 12:53am |
| Coolness: 201480 | Has it ever come to mind that people who live in those countries could not speak out even if they wanted to? It seems to generally be a small minority of people who want it law, and manage to get it enforced through force.
If people want to be religious then it is their choice. It should not be enforced on everyone. That is oppression no matter how you look at it. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Mon Sep 11, 2006 @ 7:42am |
| Coolness: 145455 | Originally Posted By SCOTTYP HAS IT EVER COME TO MIND THAT PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THOSE COUNTRIES COULD NOT SPEAK OUT EVEN IF THEY WANTED TO? IT SEEMS TO GENERALLY BE A SMALL MINORITY OF PEOPLE WHO WANT IT LAW, AND MANAGE TO GET IT ENFORCED THROUGH FORCE. IF PEOPLE WANT TO BE RELIGIOUS THEN IT IS THEIR CHOICE. IT SHOULD NOT BE ENFORCED ON EVERYONE. THAT IS OPPRESSION NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.
the key word is 'seems' when we say things like this we are trying to push our western values onto people what about Hassidic Orthodox Jews? We are always on the muslims but these Hassidics essentialy live by many very similar rules we never say that they are oppressed...Why? scott i really want you to go talk to those girls at concordia at the muslim kiosk they set up regularly on the mezz, i want you to tell them what you think of them wearing a veil how you think they are oppressed and how you think that societies that they come from are oppressive to women. I really want you to do this and then come back here and tell me what they say to you. Please do this, try to convince them of your point of view, school is just back in session so they should have something at one of the Kiosks any day now. I really would like to hear what they say to you. Can someone be oppressed yet feel free, can someone be oppressed but not know it? i think the answers to these questions are very interesting... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Mon Sep 11, 2006 @ 8:29am |
 Coolness: 92520 | We used to be exactly the same way, maybe even worse... and there are still a lot of old people in our society who believe that we should have a lot less freedom than we do and that our legal system is ungodly. We grew away from that through the generations but we can't judge someone else for beign exactly the same way. Especially when those poeple have never been given a second to grow and to stop worrying about the outside world. It's not as if it was never illegal to be christian, it was illegla for a very very long time. It has not even been so long that we've been enjoying this freedom. A lot of people would not consider it a good thing. Even so, what's the use in comparing ourselves, don't you hate to be compared? Regardless of what we think is right or wrong we have to let them grow into whatever they wanna be, we have no business with them. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon Sep 11, 2006 @ 9:51am |
| Coolness: 339920 | where was it illegal to be christian? China? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Mon Sep 11, 2006 @ 10:44am |
| Coolness: 92520 | UMMMM......only in all of Europe and North America when it was new. *rolls eyes* Was that a question meant as a joke? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon Sep 11, 2006 @ 1:02pm |
| Coolness: 339920 | when it was new?
when what was new the religion? are you out of your mind? Christianity has countless groups and none of which were made illegal by anyone at the time, most certainly not in europe, and Christianity was NEVER illegal in north america.. there's no question about that. You really need to take some religion courses if you think christians have been in anyway persicuted for their beliefs. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Haha replied on Mon Sep 11, 2006 @ 2:07pm |
| Coolness: 40790 | Hahaha Christianity illegal in Europe and North America... Dude, christiany stopped being "illegal" in the dark ages when Constantine made it the official religion of the Roman Empire, which extended pretty much all over the known world up to Asia.
Since then, Christians have pretty much forced their beliefs, tortured and killed any heathen in their way. Christianity came to North America to do the exact same thing. Or did you mean when North America was new? As in, dinosaurs prohibited Christianity? Or you mean, before the Great Flood? Or simply, "wtfnoob?" |
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