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Has The World Always Been This Bad Or Is It Getting Worse?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DrGonzo replied on Mon Aug 21, 2006 @ 3:10am
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there is no god.
we are the lost souls of ancient aliens.
save the planet.
eat people, sti.
I'm feeling hxc right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Patrisk replied on Mon Aug 21, 2006 @ 3:56am
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eat people...Hummm...sounds good ;)
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DrGonzo replied on Mon Aug 21, 2006 @ 4:01am
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^.^
I'm feeling hxc right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Patrisk replied on Mon Aug 21, 2006 @ 4:22am
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lookin 4ward to rave 4 the 1st time might help me forget what s really goin on out there
Update » Patrisk wrote on Mon Aug 21, 2006 @ 4:40am
hope to see you sometime to get a taste (the pic is huge tought u were a guy never judge on the looks) talk2u
I'm feeling hungry for deee right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ufot replied on Mon Aug 21, 2006 @ 1:06pm
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k, but we're straying from the mad max distopia I was trying to infect this thread with, so comon people, what would you do, what would your road warrior fashion choices be, and would you be a solo warrior or a gang memeber?

Ufot-the world is dead but it still tastes good
I'm feeling shoulda stayed in be right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DonLouis replied on Mon Aug 21, 2006 @ 1:51pm
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Too much negativity here, everythings going so fucking fine
I'm feeling jotzy right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Mon Aug 21, 2006 @ 2:05pm
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Originally Posted By TRICKTICKLERTREY
ORIGINALLY POSTED BY RAWALI IT MIGHT NOT BE WW3 YET BUT THE WAY I SEE IT, IT COULD VERY WELL TURN INTO IT... THE SITUATION RIGHT NOW IS STARTING MORE AND MORE TO RESEMBLE PRE WW1 SCENARIO WHERE YOU HAD A BUNCH OF EAST EUROPEANS PISSED AT AUSTRIA AND GERMANY FOR STEPPING ON THEIR HEADS... THEN YOU HAVE RUSSIA THAT TELLS ALL THE EAST EUROPEANS THAT EVERYONE THATS SPEAKS RUSSIAN SHOULD STICK TOGETHER (PAN-SLAVISME... DUNNO THE WORD IN ENGLISH). AN AUSTRIAN PRINCE GETS SHOT... AUSTRIA DECLARES WAR ON SERBIA, GEMANY BACKS THEM, RUSSIA BACKS SERBIA... ALLIANCES FORMS TWO DISTINC CAMPS AND PEOPLE START SHOOTING EACHOTHER. NOW YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF MIDDLE EASTERN PEOPLE PISSED AT ISRAEL FOR STEPPING ON THEIR HEADS... THE RELIGION ITSELF CALLS FOR SOLIDARITY AMONGST MUSLIMS WHICH HAS NOT BEEN SEEN MUCH YET BUT SINCE THE START OF ISRAEL'S ADVANCE IN LEBANON IT CAN BE FELT QUITE STONGLY BY THE POPULATION. MUSLIMS FROM ALL AROUND THE WORLD WANTED TO FLY TO LEBABNON TO JOIN HEZBOLLAH FORCES... THIS WAR HAS BROUGHT PEOPLE TOGETHER, AND IN A VERY BAD WAY...
THAT'S SO WRONG....MISCONCEPTION AND FALLACY IN YOUR POST. IT ISN'T SIMPLE AS THAT....


I would not be so quick to judge his opinion as ignorant if I were you. For one thing you have absolutley nothing to say that it's wrong and for another thing, I think that you are the one who's ignorant to assume that things have not always happened in this way. How do you know? We are as human and as stupid as we always were, having access to more information can make it easier as much as it makes it harder for us to learn the truth. Thi beleif that we are all so different now is nothing but destructive. The same mistakes can happen, the same mistakes will always happen and if you asked me I would not state that as opinion but as fact. Everything always happened for a reason, everythig will continue to happen for a reason because nothing happens wihtout one. It's not magic, it's nature.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Amp_Up replied on Mon Aug 21, 2006 @ 2:09pm
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yah right ... no sun in the summer and no snow in the winter...
western country fighting in middle-east and middle-east buying western country...

but who cares when you're born in mtl, never seen lotsa sun & lotsa snow and get your pizza delivered buy a Tamoul dude...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Mon Aug 21, 2006 @ 2:27pm
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well it's not that you SHOULD care, it isn't our fault and it SHOULDN'T be our concern but by not caring you also contribute to a disease that can eventually destroy you and your family. It's about how much you care about other people, that's all and nobody can make you care about anyone, it's your life.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Vee-Vee replied on Mon Aug 21, 2006 @ 7:18pm
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ever heard of "the natural law"? super simple: do good, avoid evil.
eh eh eh. i don't get what people find so complicated about life. it's so simple. yay!
I'm feeling strange. right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PaT_ replied on Mon Aug 21, 2006 @ 7:27pm
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you all lose

-10pts
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Mon Aug 21, 2006 @ 11:21pm
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The title of this thread just made me think of a line from the film the Proffesional by LucBesson : >...'nuff said.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» beercrack replied on Mon Aug 21, 2006 @ 11:21pm
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flo's got a point
~
I'm feeling uranus right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Wizdumb replied on Mon Aug 21, 2006 @ 11:45pm
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Originally Posted By VEE-VEE EVER HEARD OF "THE NATURAL LAW"? SUPER SIMPLE: DO GOOD, AVOID EVIL. EH EH EH. I DON'T GET WHAT PEOPLE FIND SO COMPLICATED ABOUT LIFE. IT'S SO SIMPLE. YAY!


wish it were...and people are complicated too.
I'm feeling sad to leave nyc right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DrGonzo replied on Tue Aug 22, 2006 @ 12:02am
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people are simple minded.
they're just fooled into believing life is complicated.
I'm feeling alienated right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Tue Aug 22, 2006 @ 12:05am
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it comes down to doing what you can with what you've got where you are...not much more to it that that...
I'm feeling surly right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey replied on Tue Aug 22, 2006 @ 12:48am
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Originally Posted By DRGONZO

people are simple minded.
they're just fooled into believing life is complicated.


haha
Update » Trey wrote on Tue Aug 22, 2006 @ 1:16am


Originally Posted By MOONDANCER

I would not be so quick to judge his opinion as ignorant if I were you. For one thing you have absolutley nothing to say that it's wrong


Originally Posted By rawali

I dont know... I ain't no historian or socialagist or whatnot but I'll just hope that I'm being pessimistic



he himself say he doesn't know.
i didn't called him ignorant. I state that his post is ill-conceived and lacks clarification.

You can't compare the causes of the "Great War" as the same as the causes of the current conflict in the Middle-East....

"yo i'm going to kick your ass if you attack my little firend"
"oh yea, attack me and my big friend here will fuck you up"

like seriously. It goes deeper than that.

The politics and histories are so complex, that if i have to explain one point, then i have to recall the history of this region, elucidate the atmosphere of the time, describe 20th and 19th century politics, and demonstrate how geopolitics affected many nations . Also break down about militarism and world economics. It would be very long and i don't feel anyone on a RAVE message board would give a damn.

Originally Posted By MOONDANCER

...... and for another thing, I think that you are the one who's ignorant to assume that things have not always happened in this way.


happened what way? It's ok if you think i'm ignorant, i have no problems with that.

Originally Posted By MOONDANCER

....How do you know?


i know because i read, informed myself, because i look for different sources. I don't just engage in what the modern media feeds me.
I'm currently reading these books simultaneously: Global Politics: Origins, Curents, Directions. A concise History of the Arab-Israel conflict. 20th century: A brief global history.

does it make me right? no of course not
does it make my opinion more valuable? absolutely not

Originally Posted By MOONDANCER

We are as human and as stupid as we always were, having access to more information can make it easier as much as it makes it harder for us to learn the truth. Thi beleif that we are all so different now is nothing but destructive. The same mistakes can happen, the same mistakes will always happen and if you asked me I would not state that as opinion but as fact. Everything always happened for a reason, everythig will continue to happen for a reason because nothing happens wihtout one. It's not magic, it's nature.


huh?

Human beings are not stupid as they were before.... literacy is up, education is more available world wide than it was just 100 years ago. Having access to information makes it easier to learn and interpret the truth. The ability to decipher all the information, the skill to construe facts from fictions and opinions, the idea for people to think for themselves, those are the challenge of today.

Mistakes can happen, and will happened again. But it shouldn't be this way because we have the tools and power to not to repeat history.
If people want to be complacent and not bothered, then it is perfectly within their rights.
If they want to step outside their bubble... then all i got to say is..."welcome to the real world, hey you have a smoke?".

human beings will always survived...... whether of not human civilizations will too is yet to be seen.... but we ain't heading in the right direction.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Tue Aug 22, 2006 @ 2:13am
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i agree with most of what was just said, however the question begs itself:

What is the value of 'progress'
I'm feeling surly right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Patrisk replied on Tue Aug 22, 2006 @ 2:29am
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it's the ticket to heaven as we,re all becoming gods
I'm feeling french fried right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Tue Aug 22, 2006 @ 8:17am
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Originally Posted By TRICKTICKLERTREY
HE HIMSELF SAY HE DOESN'T KNOW.

i didn't called him ignorant. I state that his post is ill-conceived and lacks clarification.

You can't compare the causes of the "Great War" as the same as the causes of the current conflict in the Middle-East....

"yo i'm going to kick your ass if you attack my little firend"
"oh yea, attack me and my big friend here will fuck you up"

like seriously. It goes deeper than that.


Okay well next time you call someone ignorant you should explain that cause I could not even tell why, and quite frankly,
you haven't even presented any conflicting views so I really don't understand what your point was.
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