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Virus Sketchiness.... New Klez?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Wed 13 Aug, 2003 @ 12:33pm
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Virus update doesn't do enough. The virus exploits a buffer error and executes itself, no need to even open it or whatever. It comes in on port 135 and sets itself up. The only thing that can stop it is a microsoft patch that's been available for 5 weeks now, which fixes the vulnerability and makes you immune from it in a way that no anti-virus is currently able to, even with the latest updates. (I got a chance to test this on my dad's computer)

With a norton fix, all it does is, when the virus gets sent to you again through the open port, it runs itself and installs itself long enough for the "shutting down in 1 minute" thing to pop up, and then norton cleans it out again, but your system still has to restart now because of a critical windows fault. The cycle repeates itself untill you install the windows security patch.

The kicker?

Anyone with this virus running on their machine is executing a DoS attack on [ windowsupdate.com ] so the server with the patch has been incredibly slow and it's been going down every couple of minutes since monday, making it impossible for anyone to update their windows.

Yet another reason why people shouldn't be alowed to own a computer if they don't have indepth knowledge of how to run the fucking thing. This whole mess wouldn't even be an issue if everyone updated and patched windows and their antivirus program at the very LEAST once every 2 days.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX a répondu le Wed 13 Aug, 2003 @ 12:42pm
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Symantec has a repair tool for the worm.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Wed 13 Aug, 2003 @ 1:04pm
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Read what I wrote and read up on the virus.

The repair tool is WORTHLESS unless you patch windows to get rid of the vulnerability and/or block port 135 completely.

I mean, sure, you can run the fix and get rid of the virus, but unless you fix the vulnerability (new favorite word of the day) then you might as well be doing fuck-all to the computer.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» G__ a répondu le Wed 13 Aug, 2003 @ 3:43pm
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hey steve, way to go on posting the link, it's actually made me quite popular....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...oh man

but yeah, i had like two friends who's computers were mad fucked cause of the virus, and i fixed it for them, they were so pleased, they gave me free beer, BOOYEAH
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Wed 13 Aug, 2003 @ 6:54pm
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yeah this virus fucking sucks.. I'm lucky I patched the system before it got me. Apparently the virus is set to ddos the windows update site from every computer that has it on aug 16. So if you don't fix it by then it's going to be fucking hard because the windows site is probably going to be down for a while :)
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» The_Middle_Man a répondu le Wed 13 Aug, 2003 @ 8:23pm
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all your virus suckers do this

Hit
Control+alt+ delete
go into task manager
click 'processes'
look for 'msblaster.exe'
end it's process
that should stop it from shutting you down constantly. then, run your updates.

That works on the initial virus. the variants are much more tricky
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear a répondu le Thu 14 Aug, 2003 @ 12:17am
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It's a trojan and not a virus... please revise you list of geek terms and use the correct ones...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear a répondu le Thu 14 Aug, 2003 @ 12:18am
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They are very dangerous! Trojans or often called backdoors are programs which will most be sent via email, instant-messengers or filesharing-tools. If you run a trojan file it will install itself on your computer to get run every time you boot up your machine. Trojans opens a port (channel) on your system which can be used by an attacker to connect to your computer. Trojans can enable almost everything for an attacker to do harmful things like viewing/modifying/deleting data, watching you when you are working or surfing the web, etc. Depending on the trojan there can be thousands of functions built in which can be remotely used by any attacker to spy you.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear a répondu le Thu 14 Aug, 2003 @ 12:20am
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Ow it's a worm... Hehe my mistake...

A program that makes copies of itself; for example, from one disk drive to another, or by copying itself using email or another transport mechanism. The worm may do damage and compromise the security of the computer. It may arrive in the form of a joke program or software of some sort.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Thu 14 Aug, 2003 @ 12:31am
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1: trojans don't cause system instability
2: trojans allow acces to your computer by a client, this opens a port and brodcasts your IP and open port on IRC
3: trojans, by their name, mean that it's something that came in disguised as something (1337 0-d4y WaReZ d00dzzzzzz0r.c) but turns out to be a client for someone to come into your PC, whereas MSBlaster randomly scans IP ranges for people who don't have UDP port 69 (TFTP) and TCP ports 135 (DCOM RPC) and 4444 blocked and it then uses the DCOM RPC weakness to upload itself and run itself, which then spreads itself more.

Also, on August 15th, and every day after, it launches a DoS on the windows update site so that no one can install the patch.

Anti virus tools can't stop it unless you patch the system's weakness (As I discovered about 3 dozen times today trying to figgure out wtf was going on)
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Thu 14 Aug, 2003 @ 12:52am
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again, I am very glad I patched my system a while ago, the patch has been out for a long time.. it was even posted on the department of homeland securities site! (america's paranoia vector). People should always install patches when it's something major like this.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Thu 14 Aug, 2003 @ 1:02am
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Yeah, like 90% of the people who own a windows box even know what a registry is, other than "it's something you don't touch ever, EVER!"

And like, who ever updates windows anyways? Fuck, I'm finding people with legit copies of XP (go figgure!) who haven't installed ANY patches since they set up the OS, and they turn off their anti-virus auto update 'cause it slows down the computer when they play Counterstrike.

And lets not forget the fucking n00bs who don't use the goddamn BCC feature when they send out their stupid "Forward this to all your friends" bullshit. I once accidentaly hit "reply all" to one of those when I had the "Add replied e-mail's address to your address book" enabled. Ever have to sort through a 1300+ entry address book to find the 180 that were yours? And it's great, when those things inevitably reach a spamer through some OTHER shmuck that forwarded it with my e-mail address in the goddamn thing because somg fucking n00b didn't BCC it. EVERY time I get a forwarded e-mail like that (which isn't THAT often anymore because I've had mad-arguments with people over that innane bullshit) within 2 days the amount of spam I get goes up by at least 4.

Computers should come with a fucking competancy test before they let ANYONE fucking buy them. Like a car. You aren't alowed to drive PERIOD unless you get a learner's permit, and then you either have to take lessons from a school or have someone teach you, and even then you get babysat through the whole thing and aren't ever alone untill after you get a FULL licence, and even then your limited to what you are alowed to do.

We need that shit for computers.

Badly.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Thu 14 Aug, 2003 @ 1:06am
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lol, no patches? damn they probably don't even have service pack 1 installed.

Note to everyone: I fix computer problems for money, if you have money and a problem give me a shout. If you need help getting this virus out I can do it for you.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear a répondu le Thu 14 Aug, 2003 @ 1:13am
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if you keep windows up to day and don't install illegal software (or know the software you are installing is good) there is no use for a virus scanner...

I've had my `own` computer since 1987 and before used my dads and I never once had a virus scanner on it... I've never got a virus in my life. This is because I've always known what i been doing.

The worse thing which ever happened to me was one of my floppies someone gave me had a boot virus on it... But I never booted from there and it was the days of DOS so things were a little different.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Thu 14 Aug, 2003 @ 1:24am
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the only reason I have a virus scanner is because my mom and sister use the computer and each one of then in the past year has unleashed a horrible virus which lead my life close to utter misery and despair.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Thu 14 Aug, 2003 @ 1:24am
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You still need a virus scanner. Viruses use macros in outlook/outlook express to launch themselves, word documents can have viruses, and legit websites have occaisionally gotten hacked and set up with javascript that fucks up shit on your computer and runs viruses. Even some software with the best intentions come with viruses, because the virus wasn't active yet the people experienced no system fuckups and thought they were fine.

Remember when olee was using java to crash IE and got it to load on the board by renaming the file to a JPG and using the IMG tags to run the code? If he had known a little more what to do, he could have done the same attack that the new virus was doing, fuck with the DCOM RPC and execute a trojan/virus/whatever on your computer without you having to do anything other than load a post on ravewave with a fake picture. (RPC = Remote Procedure Call)

I'm just glad that this is a virus that's relatively harmless to most computers, instead of having people actively scanning for weak computers and executing things like, say, installing the wrong bios on your motherboard, or doing a low-level format of your HDs, or using software-based overclockers to push your CPU, RAM and AGP Vcore up and literally COOKING your hardware.
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