The Police Thread
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead a répondu le Thu 26 Mar, 2009 @ 4:20pm |
 Coolness: 132025 | s.t.f.u. keep posting . cops selling wepons for their own profit . in the suburbs , some of the stations are overun by racists cops ( some listen to radio channels they refer to anything else than whites as : other than " autre que " - nice radio code wouldnt you agree ), like its been said, their human , some are as stoopid and wouldnt deserve a gun nor authority like soem folks around here.
some people fishes for problem , i agree that they dont start the shit. but does that justify them for having no restriction about their actions afterwards ? exposure will tell Mise À Jour » cutterhead a écrit sur Thu 26 Mar, 2009 @ 4:23pm refer to movie -> SERPICO
if in the 70 it was out of hand, dont think its all good now . ppl then to repeat errors form the past since everything has been done. |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Turtle a répondu le Thu 26 Mar, 2009 @ 4:22pm |
 Coolness: 68735 | I just don't understand why some poeple want to resist when caught, u r caught so let it go man! |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn a répondu le Thu 26 Mar, 2009 @ 4:23pm |
 Coolness: 158665 | Originally Posted By CUTTERHEAD
some people fishes for problem , i agree that they dont start the shit. but does that justify them for having no restriction about their actions afterwards ? Of course not. We're bound by our rights and liberties and that should be applied to everyone, at every level of "authority". No excessive force is ever okay. But if a guy starts throwing shit at the cop or struggling/fighting, it's only fair that the cop defends himself. The world's not black and white. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead a répondu le Thu 26 Mar, 2009 @ 4:24pm |
| Coolness: 132025 | yea , but you seen that video where the cop girl wasnt even holding the guy , whe just pointed the gun and it went off.
this is the point here. |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Shindy a répondu le Thu 26 Mar, 2009 @ 4:27pm |
 Coolness: 172270 | La brutalité policière gratuite existe, c'est certain.
Comme les maris violent existe. Ya des salaud partout... Le problème est que souvent, le premier a crier brutalité policière est celui qui a courru après, et il décide de le crier de la facon la moin crédible ever: en brisant de quoi ou en attaquant la police. Cela fait perdre toute crédibilité aux vrai victime. Moi c'est SA qui me dérange. |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly a répondu le Thu 26 Mar, 2009 @ 4:29pm |
 Coolness: 77140 | I find generally if you know how to argue validly and with a minimum of aggression you can also win against the cops. Example: I was hanging out in Carré St. Louis with a few friends and typically, we were drinking. We had one exposed bottle. It was virtually empty. My friend was drunk, but so was the whole damn park, pretty obviously. I mean, it's Carré St. Louis! This first year rookie comes up to us and tells my friend he's in all this trouble, calls him a "esti de maudit tourist" and tells him to pour out the beer. My friend panicked a bit and couldn't deal with the yelling, and got up really slowly, obviously scared, while the cop started insulting and threatening him.
Finally I jumped in and said to the cop "hé la, aucun de nous autres sont des touristes monsieur, et ce n'est pas dans votre procedure d'agir de même. Je sais que vous avez un quota mais voyons, la bouteille est vide, ce gars est né ici, et il parle Français et te comprends très bien. Tu le fait peur. Voyons. S'il y a vraiment aucun chose que tu peut écrire sur ton papier sauf que t'as rien trouvé sauf notre bouteille vide, vas-y, embarquez. Mais si non, sois professionel ou je télephone tes superieurs qui vont mieux te dire comment te comporter." And you know what? He muttered something under his breath, the lady cop with him nodded and shrugged, and they left in a huff. We kept drinking. Not saying everyone should attempt this, but if you can keep your cool and you know what you're talking about they will fear the possibility of legal repercussions. This sometimes even works in cases where you're totally in the wrong (we were breaking the law, but it was really not worth the paperwork), but you really have to know your rights. "Number one, you have the right to free speech. But that doesn't actually mean you should be dumb enough to try to use it." - The Clash |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH a répondu le Thu 26 Mar, 2009 @ 4:33pm |
 Coolness: 226705 | Originally Posted By LUKEPERIL
I find generally if you know how to argue validly and with a minimum of aggression you can also win against the cops. Example: I was hanging out in Carré St. Louis with a few friends and typically, we were drinking. We had one exposed bottle. It was virtually empty. My friend was drunk, but so was the whole damn park, pretty obviously. I mean, it's Carré St. Louis! This first year rookie comes up to us and tells my friend he's in all this trouble, calls him a "esti de maudit tourist" and tells him to pour out the beer. My friend panicked a bit and couldn't deal with the yelling, and got up really slowly, obviously scared, while the cop started insulting and threatening him. Finally I jumped in and said to the cop "hé la, aucun de nous autres sont des touristes monsieur, et ce n'est pas dans votre procedure d'agir de même. Je sais que vous avez un quota mais voyons, la bouteille est vide, ce gars est né ici, et il parle Français et te comprends très bien. Tu le fait peur. Voyons. S'il y a vraiment aucun chose que tu peut écrire sur ton papier sauf que t'as rien trouvé sauf notre bouteille vide, vas-y, embarquez. Mais si non, sois professionel ou je télephone tes superieurs qui vont mieux te dire comment te comporter." And you know what? He muttered something under his breath, the lady cop with him nodded and shrugged, and they left in a huff. We kept drinking. Not saying everyone should attempt this, but if you can keep your cool and you know what you're talking about they will fear the possibility of legal repercussions. This sometimes even works in cases where you're totally in the wrong (we were breaking the law, but it was really not worth the paperwork), but you really have to know your rights. "Number one, you have the right to free speech. But that doesn't actually mean you should be dumb enough to try to use it." - The Clash I just make shure they see me memorise their badge number. Then proceed to talk it out in a calm manner. |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf a répondu le Thu 26 Mar, 2009 @ 4:34pm |
 Coolness: 185785 | i don't know
the girl who was beaten by that cop who turned off the camera is pretty sketchy ok the girl seems drunk and out of control, but the fact that he turn off the camera to "neutralized" the girl is not right + i don't think that the girl really deserve to go in the hospital just for fighting for her rights, to have her phone call. i don't know but there's alot of blood on the floor and it's a guy against a girl, im pretty sure a dude can control a girl without punching her so hard that the girl is laying down on her blood. And it's not a sexist comment, i would have said the same thing if it was a girl cop. they are train to deal with people who fights and how to neutralized them, not hitting them so hard to shut the fuck up. but i agree, when a cops arrest you, the best is to play the naive card |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead a répondu le Thu 26 Mar, 2009 @ 4:37pm |
| Coolness: 132025 | man rookies are the worse , if you think im short fuse and pretentious, you never seen a mtl rookie cop.
its like "their balls are dropping" all over again , like they needed that attitude for authority. stupidity isnt authority, it leads to more human errors , and dangerous ones . i said it before , last year a rookie group was walking on stlaurent and threw me insults because i ran to the moog audio because it was about to close : " ENWEILLE COURT COURT TI CASSE " and you wnat to give them autority and guns to thoses jocks ? |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Turtle a répondu le Thu 26 Mar, 2009 @ 4:37pm |
| Coolness: 68735 | most of the time it is the cops word against the person or persons that cried brutality, since not alot of peeps like cops in that certain hood or comunity and get on the band wagon and cry with them without even knowing what really happend.
Now days we have video everywhere but it only so happens that they caught the part where the police r so called *brutalizing* the person or persons involved. Then cry oh my god look what the cops did to me or them...Did u see what happened before for that person to get what they deserved??? Probably not so that is probably why most peeps don't Like the cops, because they don't know any better they just see what they want to |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Count_Bandit a répondu le Thu 26 Mar, 2009 @ 4:38pm |
 Coolness: 49590 | anyway All cops have fat asses and this is true. just look at the metro cops |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn a répondu le Thu 26 Mar, 2009 @ 4:38pm |
| Coolness: 158665 | For sure, the fact that she was verbally arrogant / struggling does not excuse the excessive force he most likely used on her.
That video was horrible. I'm just stating that had she shut her mouth, it probably wouldn't have happened. But it did and the guy should definitely be brought to justice the same way any violent civilian should be brought to justice. |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH a répondu le Thu 26 Mar, 2009 @ 4:39pm |
| Coolness: 226705 | Originally Posted By S.T.F.U
anyway All cops have fat asses and this is true. just look at the metro cops Credibility / enlightement factor of this contribution to the thread : -40K (means fail...) |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf a répondu le Thu 26 Mar, 2009 @ 4:39pm |
| Coolness: 185785 | indeed |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead a répondu le Thu 26 Mar, 2009 @ 4:40pm |
| Coolness: 132025 | Originally Posted By DRNYARLATHOTEP
For sure, the fact that she was verbally arrogant / struggling does not excuse the excessive force he most likely used on her. That video was horrible. I'm just stating that had she shut her mouth, it probably wouldn't have happened. But it did and the guy should definitely be brought to justice the same way any violent civilian should be brought to justice. i agree , weapons should be use by police when one is drawn, not to save time. |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Turtle a répondu le Thu 26 Mar, 2009 @ 4:42pm |
| Coolness: 68735 | cops r good for taking on the job that they do i give them alot of credit.... |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn a répondu le Thu 26 Mar, 2009 @ 4:42pm |
| Coolness: 158665 | Originally Posted By CUTTERHEAD
i agree , weapons should be use by police when one is drawn, not to save time. Absolutely. I don't condone police using weapons for anything else than defense. |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Count_Bandit a répondu le Thu 26 Mar, 2009 @ 4:50pm |
| Coolness: 49590 | violence never resolves violence |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly a répondu le Thu 26 Mar, 2009 @ 4:52pm |
| Coolness: 77140 | Ok, but... neither does ignoring it. |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Thu 26 Mar, 2009 @ 4:53pm |
 Coolness: 686020 | Originally Posted By S.T.F.U
violence never resolves violence Bullshit! You punch me, I kill you, the fight is over. |
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