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» JasonBeastly replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 7:34pm. Posted in Something special to do for a girl.
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BUY HER FLOWERS.

(she'll totally let you fuck her ass after that)
» JasonBeastly replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 7:31pm. Posted in tornados in Toronto yesterday.
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This is what the elders warned of... floods, tornados, earthquakes, and hurricanes.

THE END IS NIGH!
» JasonBeastly replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 1:59am. Posted in poll: are alter egos funny or annoying ?.
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Originally Posted By SOURULTRAFAST
Good one. Did you get it at the toilet...store?


Yeah. The broken toilet store in fact. Zing!
» JasonBeastly replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 1:29am. Posted in Artist Needed.
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This is totally homorobophobia.
» JasonBeastly replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 1:03am. Posted in which came first : shitty rave music or the drugs?.
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Just vindictively bring down the banhammer, like Thor! That's all we want! Mods=gods!
» JasonBeastly replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 12:59am. Posted in Good places to rave and get butt naked.
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Ah shit man. My rectum is only 9 inches long dude, I told you, I can't take it any more.
» JasonBeastly replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 12:58am. Posted in buffet of drugs.
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Yeah but try to get something smokeable (as in not too expensive)... I'd say the best and safest bet for opiates at the end of an acid trip is more likely demoral or oxycontin, I can say I've done those on acid, as well as codeine, and they're great. Heroin... no... haven't really wanted to, because of price, addictiveness, the amount of junkies I've known in my life, and the fact that it's really not usually very good. Yes I have done it. Not as big a deal as I'd thought.
» JasonBeastly replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 12:55am. Posted in Dissolve the CRTC.
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The CRTC disgusts me. They ruin a lot of content with their form of censorship and tend to also severely impeded the media they regulate. Fuck em and their law. I already have a Mom and a Dad. And I already don't listen to them. Nyaah.
» JasonBeastly replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 12:53am. Posted in poll: are alter egos funny or annoying ?.
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That avatar is the cover of Megaman.
» JasonBeastly replied on Thu Aug 20, 2009 @ 10:42pm. Posted in buffet of drugs.
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Lsd and heroin is a fucking weird trip. Feels good man.
» JasonBeastly replied on Thu Aug 20, 2009 @ 10:39pm. Posted in Good places to rave and get butt naked.
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You called him a chap just because he speaks English! RACIST!

Update » JasonBeastly wrote on Thu Aug 20, 2009 @ 10:40pm
You also called us some of you assholes, when some of us is made up of asshole. Like our assholes, in fact! Assoholist!
» JasonBeastly replied on Thu Aug 20, 2009 @ 10:36pm. Posted in Good places to rave and get butt naked.
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I know, he just shot me. Can't diss black people because if you ever do they'll most definitely shoot you. They all have guns. And are violent.

Even Mikael. Sorry brah. Didn't want to be a hater but I'm so afraid you'll just up and shoot me one day.

God damn it. This racism. It's tearing me apart. I wish there was a cure!!!!
» JasonBeastly replied on Thu Aug 20, 2009 @ 10:34pm. Posted in People shot outside Blue Dog last night.
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Originally Posted By BETTY_HAZE
b/c you seem to talk a lot.. but not walking the walk iykwim.

but i didn't want to be mean or anything... sorry.

i don't dislike you or something... do you have a crush on me luke? my opinion about you seems very important... ha


NO! Of course not! You've got cooties!
» JasonBeastly replied on Thu Aug 20, 2009 @ 10:23pm. Posted in Good places to rave and get butt naked.
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Bliss met Wendall in South Africa, where he owned a large plot of land where Wendall was detained and more or less enslaved until the abolition of racial apartheid. At this crucial time in South African history, Hamish knew the stigma attached with loving what the local whites called "kaffirs" and he decided to disguise Wendall by painting his face white and having him learn to play country guitar. During this time Wendall was introduced to the stiff realities of being reared by this firm believer in equal rights and brotherly love. He was also introduced to violent and brutal anal sex, sometimes to the point of severe hemorrhaging. Wendall's ass would bleed so much that his pants, which were stone washed and blue, had a gigantic purple-brown stain at the back, where he had repeatedly shat blood into his trousers.

But after many years, the pain goes away. And so too did little Wendall's memories of the abuses of his ersatz father. He decided he would visit his daddy, and maybe he would have the love (or semblance thereof) that he so felt was lacking in his life. He was nothing if not obstinate in his goal of joining Hamish "Ham Sandwich" McBean in jolly Canada, where he was living in a trailer park near a petting zoo. Hamish had, incidentally, also raped many of the animals into submission so that they would accept petting. From the animals' perspectives, at least it wasn't anal rape to the point of severe recto-arterial distress.

When they were reunited, Bliss was as usual, a total douche. He immediately insisted that Wendall suck his two inch worm. Wendall complied and Bliss said "no my son, you must play the rusty trombone". And so it was. And so it began.

Wendall was only permitted, as a black sex slave, to use Bliss' "Thundercock" login to access this site, so that he could be used, unwillingly, as a pawn in a game to expose the board as racists and shut it down as if it were the port of Madagascar. Wendall, ever the eager beaver, and bleeding heavily from rape, logged on looking for friends.

He didn't find any.

This is his story.
» JasonBeastly replied on Thu Aug 20, 2009 @ 10:02pm. Posted in C2C ... SICK ....
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I'm sorry, I really thought that this would be a sick cock to cock video.

Boy was I wrong.
» JasonBeastly replied on Wed Aug 19, 2009 @ 7:56pm. Posted in buffet of drugs.
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Heroin and nutmeg! WOOT!
» JasonBeastly replied on Tue Aug 18, 2009 @ 5:56pm. Posted in Cum Is....
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If you can do this you win. At losing.
» JasonBeastly replied on Tue Aug 18, 2009 @ 5:38pm. Posted in buffet of drugs.
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Good lord.
» JasonBeastly replied on Tue Aug 18, 2009 @ 4:14pm. Posted in People shot outside Blue Dog last night.
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Holy shit. Why weren't we discussing this before? What if the car actually was responsible! We were blaming the music but WE OVERLOOKED THE CAR! IT WAS THE CAR THE WHOLE TIME!

Sorry I was being racist. Prejudiced against machines used for racing.

Edit: I wrote care by accident. Carist.
» JasonBeastly replied on Tue Aug 18, 2009 @ 3:53pm. Posted in People shot outside Blue Dog last night.
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It was about a racist car named "Zipperhead" that shoots Clint Eastwood a bunch of times.
» JasonBeastly replied on Tue Aug 18, 2009 @ 3:49pm. Posted in Pee-Wee's Playhouse.
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Hate? Not at all. That's my favourite Pee-Wee quote. It's so damned funny. That and this scene from same movie, featuring "Large Marge":



You've got to understand, after years of dealing with Bliss' constant provocations we really want to put him in his place. There's no hate in that, just annoyance and assertiveness.
» JasonBeastly replied on Tue Aug 18, 2009 @ 3:31pm. Posted in the death of a friend Jordan Kuzecv.
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This is really unfortunate. It seems a lot of people like to swim high or otherwise inebriated, I know for one it feels good, but I nearly drowned back in 2003 high out of my gourd on ecstasy and kizzo when I tried to simulate a sensory-dep chamber experience by trying to float in a k-hole. I was lucky my friends saved me.

Forgive me I'm false in assuming there were drugs involved, it has to do with my own personal experiences of staying later at teknival sites to just enjoy the space, and Eclipse is after all a source of peak experiences for a lot of its attendees. I send my condolences although I didn't know him, this is not easy news and brings up a lot of worrisome questions about how to deal safely with water at festivals/parties and even just on camping trips. It's very important to always have at least one first aid expert with you, preferably one who has a bronze medallion at the very least. Even sober, bodies of water can be rather dangerous if you aren't equipped to deal with emergencies.
» JasonBeastly replied on Tue Aug 18, 2009 @ 3:21pm. Posted in Private, no no, public messaging....
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IT'S ALRIGHT TO YELL IF YOU WANT IT TO SELL! I APPROVE OF THIS THREAD!
» JasonBeastly replied on Tue Aug 18, 2009 @ 3:16pm. Posted in The Beach!.
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I know. We bring the beach to us! We find a warehouse, bring some sand in there, and pour a bunch of water all over the place, like flood a certain section (works best if there are vats) and then we set up and we can all drug away without anyone noticing!

Good idea?
» JasonBeastly replied on Tue Aug 18, 2009 @ 3:11pm. Posted in N00b question.
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Three Dog?

Oh man, would you get off my case about that stupid kid in Grayditch? Why couldn't he grow balls like the kids in Lamplight? Talk about all the good shit I did, I didn't get to level 30 to have you diss me about not having a clue where the kid from Grayditch could live and telling him to squat in a Pukowski Chamber.

Oh and stop playing that goddamn "Back Home" track. If you can't find any other records in the wasteland I'm going to listen to violin instead.

Please. Improve the music or I'm sending you to the Pitt.
» JasonBeastly replied on Tue Aug 18, 2009 @ 3:07pm. Posted in Pee-Wee's Playhouse.
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I don't make monkeys! I just train 'em!
» JasonBeastly replied on Tue Aug 18, 2009 @ 3:02pm. Posted in which came first : shitty rave music or the drugs?.
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Originally Posted By BLISSS
Classic example of a guy who's grown old and is frustrated cause punk rock isn't as "cool" as it was once was

Its like those people in their 40s who come up to you at parties and tell you "You know, all the good music was made in the 80s" or "I'm too old to understand drum and bass, just stick the classics"...

He just comes off looking stupid, out of touch and ignorant

PS How does a scratch dj (who basically creates sounds through manipulation, just like a guitar player moves his hand over strings on a piece of wood) STEAL music?

Hahaha...


I'm speechless. The second sentence is the counter-argument I was seeking for what you said about "gangster shit" being listened to by "wankers" and that you prefer "the classic hip hop that was about having a good time".

Like all music I might add.

You 40 yet? Getting close eh?

Boy would it suck if a DJ with your experience came off looking stupid, out of touch, and ignorant. And boy would it rule if you said that to Mr. Rollins' face.
» JasonBeastly replied on Tue Aug 18, 2009 @ 2:53pm. Posted in People shot outside Blue Dog last night.
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^^^ You got it. That's where I first heard that to. What a killer movie!
» JasonBeastly replied on Tue Aug 18, 2009 @ 2:47pm. Posted in People shot outside Blue Dog last night.
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Seriously you honky/jew/nigger/spic/towelhead/chink/wop/jap/beaner/paki/kraut/frog/squarehead/flip/fob/chug/gweilo/pepper/polack/russkie/redne ck/squaw/zipperhead... STFU.

I hope I didn't offend nobody. I's just ignorant is all.

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» JasonBeastly replied on Tue Aug 18, 2009 @ 2:38pm. Posted in I'm Gonna Grape You In The Mouth!.
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Wow man, something about the whole staff meeting reminds me too much of the way arguments develop on this board.

But grape is not funny. My brother was graped to death. The grape never stopped. He just kept graping him. Again and again and again. And he was screaming "STOP GRAPING ME! OH GOD WHY!"... So honestly. Let's keep this board PLUR and PC so that our grandmothers can log on while they're sitting on their sybians smoking crack with a dick up their nose.
» JasonBeastly replied on Tue Aug 18, 2009 @ 2:30pm. Posted in People shot outside Blue Dog last night.
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Ok "Hamish". Or is it James or Jamie or Hammy, or Jimmy J Hammy Jam, who gives a fuck really.

You obviously are trying to provoke me because you see that you managed to ruffle my feathers. But since it's clear that you're being self-righteous as usual, snide, not to mention terribly childish in your manner of defending yourself (insert Pee-Wee going "I know you are but what am I", compare to thread), I feel that I should let you know that I'm not paying any more attention to this thread. I don't need to bang my head against a wall trying to argue about touchy subject with PC-Nazis like yourself.

Political correctness in itself is racist. It assumes that the politics you follow are correct, hence closing the door on any statements of opinion that are not publically approved. PC is a white liberal lie.

I don't care if my statements against white culture vicariously include me. I think white people should be punished for their arrogance. FUCK WHITEY! KILL THE HONKIES!

Yeah, I'm actually part of a special ops programme from wherever you lived in Africa designed to hunt down and kill any whites who left the country. I can't say where from but I will say this. Things are not as they seem. I underwent surgery to look as pasty and anglo-saxon as I could, and practiced speaking mumbly Toronto English while I was at it to be extra persuasive.

You're seriously pathetic to needle like that in your posts. I know you're calling me out but remember, if you really get out of line the yogourt will rain down upon ye precious bag of crappy records. I don't care if there are a few gems here and there, they all suffer.

But I still don't understand why Betty felt the need to call me an onanist. I'm not doing it that professionally. Really, I'd consider myself an amateur onanist, a wannabe, but I don't have the two-hander down yet.
» JasonBeastly replied on Sat Aug 15, 2009 @ 5:48pm. Posted in People shot outside Blue Dog last night.
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Ok whatever, I'm a wanker (onanist) and a racist because I didn't make a broad sweeping generalization that covered all the countries in the world and all the possible racist scenarios that exist. But listen, ye who does not onanize, let ye cast the first, I dunno, cumshot.

I was talking about North America for the record, once again I will point that out. I do not doubt that white people experience racism in countries where they are the minority. But don't throw that sort of strawman on me, because that was not the context of my argument. I was talking about this board, in this country, with the people it comprises, not their husbands, wives, fuckbuddies, dogs, priests, and mothers.

Also I chose Kenya as an example because I have very close friends from Kenya who now live in North Carolina, where they are experiencing typical redneck American racism.

Anyone who took offense at what I was saying, and I don't feel the need to quote you all, seems to have taken what I said and applied it as if it was a blanket statement against all white people. Well that's nice, it seems that you'd hate to have to admit that yes, you do have it easier in a country where whites are in charge. Tough pill to swallow but it is true.

May I remind you I also am white, not to mention that I have to deal with being labelled an Anglophone over here, a Frog in Toronto, and a Nazi or Kraut if I try to clarify that I'm actually also half German. I really don't think it compares to being called a Paki or a Nigger though, because there isn't quite as much hatred behind it. Hatred that also includes generalizations that Indian people smell like curry and are filthy people, that Arabs are insane terrorists, that black people steal bikes, eat fried chicken and watermelon, and can't swim. That's racism. What I said? A little bit controversial but not racist. Provocative you may say. But not built on hatred and generalizations of people.

I think it's a little bit pathetic to complain that you're the victim of racism as a white person, bt yeah, I've experienced it too. However, if someone wants to stupidly say that I hate jews and that because my grandfather was conscripted into the Nazis that my family was immoral for not wanting to be exterminated that I am also a Nazi, it usually does not contain as much hate as a statement made against a "visible minority". I in fact usually feel that there is a need to explain the social ills that led to a country being fooled into adopting fascism, and then having no way out. But this continent was definitely colonized by whites with whites in mind. You can ask anybody over at Oka about that.

Also, if we were talking about ethnic cleansing in African countries, I would have mentioned that. And I would have gone on to talk about the many complex economic reasons that these race wars are happening in Africa, and who profits from these civil wars. But that's non sequitor to an argument about gun violence. It's perhaps a nice footnote but that's not the subject or context.

My point was actually exactly what Betty Haze said, that we should judge people individually, not for the colour of their skin. But I was extending that to say that I felt that automatically blaming gangster rap vs. hip hop is about the same thing. It really has nothing to do with why this shooting took place.

Feel free to extrapolate more things that I never said out of this paragraph. I am waiting to see what I get accused of next for being articulate and straightforward, because obviously a lot of you feel the need to read between the lines and draw irrelevant conclusions from what I say.

I would expect DJ Bliss over here to be the first one to start calling everyone a racist, it's actually been a while since you were saying everyone on here was racist, after all. So I guess you're back to being a good old douchebag and throwing around words you hardly know how to use.

I argue that we are in a cultural vacuum in most of Canada, with the sole exception perhaps of Canada and Iqualuut. This is what I am saying. That no matter where you come from, we have a screen-door immigration system and we are slowly approaching the melting pot version of multiculturalism. And being white in this culture makes your background invisible, generally speaking, and most definitely guarantees better treatment from Johnny Law and the media.

So, let the wild accusations fly! What have I said wrong now, you room of honkies?
» JasonBeastly replied on Sat Aug 15, 2009 @ 2:00am. Posted in People shot outside Blue Dog last night.
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Ok. Well. It seems that Liam and Hamish are convined I'm a racist.

Think what you want. But don't tell me that race is a construct shit in a society that clearly has a preference for people of a lighter skin colour. The term "minority" even supposes this. I never said I agreed with it. It's just a fact of North American culture. After the fact, someone may come along and call you an Anglo, a Kraut, a Frog, a Pollak, a Heeb... but they didn't make that snap judgment as quickly as they did when they saw a black male with a baseball cap and baggy clothes.

It's bullshit. You will never experience the prejudice that a Kenyan family who emigrates here will experience unless you come from the same place, with the same skin colour.

Living in Africa does not disqualify you from your privelege. Don't pretend it does.

So to reiterate I feel that the crime came before any sort of music, meaning that this crime (people shot outside Blue Dog) should not be pinned to the music, but to the individuals.

Seems this wasn't clear. But somehow everything shifted the minute I dared to say that the "80s hip hop was about having a good time" argument was moot. Hip hop released today is still about having a good time. Rap is still party music. But it's not like it was some sort of Carpenters ballad. The very fact that people would write good time music that warned about the perils of coke addiction or life on the streets indicates that the societal problem was there first.

Where, exactly, do any of you feel specifically that I was racist? In saying that we live in a safety bubble outside of these high-crime neighbourhoods? It's true! We're not dealing with anything, any of us, that allows us to understand the nature of this sort of a crime, the who or why. The very fact that this thread about a shooting has devolved into a celebration of 80s hip hop shows that people really feel some sort of glamourization of the glorious past will somehow convince the violent and ignorant dicks with guns to stop being that way.

And that is just fucking obtuse. Drugs, and by extension crime are/is everywhere. Many of the people involved in this argument do them. And there's a shitload of bad shit going down to bring them to you. So don't get on your high horse about having nothing to do with gangs and gun violence. We support it every day whether we realize it or not.

But oh yeah, I must be racist. I at least have the guts to be controversial instead of hiding behind a bunch of politically correct bullshit that prevents you from ever sounding prejudiced. Go ahead and erase yourself with your non-opinions and neutral politics. Because that's what being white is, being a neutral robot who never, ever dares admit that they're a victim of pop-culture programming.

You need to read your McLuhan a bit closer. Read about appropriation and how it is the typically post-colonial, North American way of life. Because that's what we are all doing. So yeah. We're white, so we don't get it like we wish we could. All we do is try hard to compensate for the fact that we are being served our sense of culture and national identity through the media. Meanwhile if somebody like myself comes along and says that it's tiresome to hear white dudes talk about rap like they're some sort of authorities because of their record collection, I'm supposedly racist for saying that you're only getting a mediated experience of that culture? So what if I'm included in that? We only know what we read in the media, be it digital or otherwise. Don't take that for granted.
» JasonBeastly replied on Sat Aug 15, 2009 @ 12:26am. Posted in Cutterhead's a Faaaaag.
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teh ghey! OMG!
» JasonBeastly replied on Sat Aug 15, 2009 @ 12:26am. Posted in RIP Les Paul.
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Honestly, I saw him trade fours at that guitar show-down and he seems to know his shit.

R.I.P. and P.S.: send this boy a '76 mahogany LP because he really needs one. Please?
» JasonBeastly replied on Sat Aug 15, 2009 @ 12:24am. Posted in N00b question.
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HAI GUYZ!

Let's make fun of the guy! He's new to the forum!

Wait, he comes from a Vault. Are ye the Vault Dweller of lore?
» JasonBeastly replied on Sat Aug 15, 2009 @ 12:22am. Posted in Interview w/ Alex aka the 1 guy 1 cup dude..
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That guy stuck a jar up his ass and it exploded. Heh heh heh. Uh huh huh. Uh huh huh. Cool.
» JasonBeastly replied on Wed Aug 12, 2009 @ 6:38pm. Posted in People shot outside Blue Dog last night.
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Originally Posted By RECOIL
so what was it about?


How would any of us know? We could quote somebody who was there but it's stupid to assume that there wasn't gang violence in the Bronx, Compton, or Miami before hip hop. I guess we could say it was for good times, but I think that most musicians will give a more complex explanation of why they felt driven to express themselves, however they do.

I'm just saying when we all heard our first hip hop tracks in the 80s most white kids only got into the Fat Boys and Run DMC and felt uncomfortable about all the gun talk and depictions of hard life.
Most of us got into PE only after we accepted that they probably would have hated seriously on us and our typically white way of life, and even then, as a kid I had no idea what their political stances were or why.

We never understood it like black youth living in the ghetto did. Why would we assume this knowledge? We can say we know the music, we can say we know the artists, but only through the medium they expressed themselves through. Not personally, and not profoundly enough to say anything for sure.

I think it's important that if we talk about the problem that leads to this violence that we look at the entire culture of a nation, not just that of one race. It was after all the CIA who funnelled all that shit coke into the ghettos, and there was no choice at one point than for a black crime syndicate to start taking the power back from the Mafia. Everyone plays the game. Just because you have a suit on doesn't mean that you aren't a twisted psychopath killing motherfuckers every day.
» JasonBeastly replied on Wed Aug 12, 2009 @ 6:31pm. Posted in hommage aux colocs.
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Je viens de voir le film "Dédé: Au Travers des Brumes" qui était tourné au loft du prime no. 1 sketchpads en haut de nous autres a 1619. Bon film. Mais tellement séparatiste. J'aime bien le voix de Sebastien Ricard aussi. Mais ça manquait quelque chose. Bref, je trouvait que c'était long et un peu typiquement sentimentale, sans vraiment critiquer Dédé, l'héro du Quebec. Pis je suis encore fâché d'avoir eu les Gumboots sur ma tête a 6h le matin!

Mais le show live était poche en tabarnak. Quelle grosse merde. J'ai jamais vu tout Laval pis Brossard dans une place avant, et sérieusement les interprétations par Paul Piché et Pierre Lapointe... c'était comme un peu trop. Pis quand t'aime une groupe pis toute les mémères des Banlieux chantent avec pis font leur danses "sexy" avec Beelzebub, c'est clair que t'as manqué le "peak" de les Colocs.

Mais ma blonde trippe trop sur ces légendes Quebecois. Et j'ai franchement jamais entendu des paroles si profondément touchants.
» JasonBeastly replied on Wed Aug 12, 2009 @ 6:18pm. Posted in People shot outside Blue Dog last night.
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Originally Posted By BLISSS
I've seen some sketchy motherfuckers outside of Blue Dog in the past

I wasn't saying Blue Dog specifically tries to cater to those kind of guys, I've just seen those gangsta hip hop looser types hanging outside the joint

From where I was standing that night, the guy was lying on the ground outside of Blue Dog close to that tree, thats all I'm saying

& for the record I've been listening to hip hop since the 80s, and I still do, I just don't listen to much of gangsta stuff which I honestly think is for wankers, like the loosers who perpetrated this crime

The stuff I listen to puts me in a good mood and makes me wanna bust out some moves, which what hip hop was originally all about


Srsly whenever I hear people saying they don't like that gangsta shit I want to call bullshit. It's like the "conscious and sensitive black people are ok but the angry gangstas are ok to call niggers" mentality. You're white. You don't understand it. You never could.

Gangsta is amazing. I can name about a hundred good gangsta rap groups, and you know you like them. I can name off another ton of recent dirty south peeps who are fucking amazing. Generalizations of an entire race on the basis of the content of the music make stupid assumptions that the music really has something to do with the violence or vice versa, not to mention, these generalizations are borderline racist.

The fact is, gangsta rap sings about crime. The hard reality of living in a shit neighbourhood because your mom couldn't afford to move somewhere better, and because your family also wants to be able to have a community that isn't poisoned by gang violence, rape, crack dealing, and all the other hustling that people think has to be part of their life.

It's not the music that started it. It's the crime that started it. A long legacy of crime. The music sings about it to bring it to light. Some haters live out a fantasy perpetuated by music, but that's because they can't discern between taking on a persona for music and living that life for real and loving it.

And yes, there are tons of rappers who are actually straight up psychotic crack smoking asshats. Unfortunately, they also sometimes make excellent music. But it's not like these slippery slope arguments that "because the music contains references to this shit, it perpetuates it" are not based in any sort of solid premise. They're assumptions made by outsiders. You couldn't possibly understand making it to the top dealing coke or crack unless you'd done it. And for as many hip hop types who are into that there are also tons of other styles of music that have the same criminal subculture within their midst. Ravers. Metalheads. Good ol' Rock and Roll. Even fucking Country. Geez, look at Merle Haggard. That guy was a fucked-up crackheaded wife-beating criminal but we don't dare say "oh, all that crime going down is because of country".

So in conclusion. Yes, perhaps the shooters were stereotypical black gangsters doing stereotypical black crime. But they just basically set the public perception of black people back a good deal. They're to blame. Not the culture, not the music. Try to convince me that you haven't got your hands dirty in your life, seen some bad shit go down, and then decided to avoid it. You did it out of fear. You did it out of prejudice. You decided "I can't figure out why I tangled with this sort of fucked up criminal nonsense but I don't want to again" and made a couple of hypotheses about how to avoid it. But if you want to throw out all your Immortal Technique because they raped their own moms, well then rap wasn't for you in the first place.

Also, it's not "looser". That would be a person who loosens things, potentially, or to be "looser" in the sense of being less tight. A loser is a person who loses. A looser is not even a noun. It's an adjective.

Hip hop wasn't originally about what you say it is either. That's a dumb white opinion.
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