Cannibal And Meal Share Flambeed Penis
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Zz.ee.vV replied on Fri Mar 5, 2004 @ 11:48pm |
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The challenge of the 'cannibal consensus' By Clare Murphy BBC News Online Armin Meiwes is, on the surface of things, an attractive, well-dressed, and amiable 42-year-old German. There are mixed feelings about Mr Meiwes He is also, by his own admission, a cannibal, who three years ago ate an engineer he had found through the internet. On Friday, a court convicted Meiwes of manslaughter and sentenced him to eight and a half years in jail. The verdict fell short of the murder conviction sought by prosecutors. It was a complex trial. At issue was whether a person could be tried and imprisoned for murder when his victim had consented to be slaughtered. In March 2001, Bernd-Jurgen Brandes, 43, answered an advert Mr Meiwes had posted on the internet for a well-built male who was prepared to be slaughtered and then consumed. They met, and Mr Meiwes allegedly took Mr Brandes back to his home in Rotenburg, where the victim agreed to the removal of his penis, which Mr Meiwes then flambéed and served up to eat together. Mr Brandes was then killed, cut up, and put in the freezer. The act of cannibalism is not in itself a crime in Germany, meaning that particular legal avenue was closed to prosecutors. Instead they opted for a charge of sexually-driven murder, combined with a charge of "disturbing the peace of the dead" - despite the apparently consensual nature of the act. The defence, for its part, argued that Mr Meiwes was guilty of nothing more than "killing by request" - an offence which carries a maximum sentence of five years incarceration. "He slaughtered his victim like a piece of livestock and treated him as an object of his fancy"-Marcus Koehler,Prosecutor The defence team had sought to prove to the court that not one of the men who met the cannibal was made to go through with anything they were uncertain about. London-based hotel worker Dirk Moller - one of dozens who allegedly replied to Mr Meiwes' adverts - was called to testify that he had even got as far as being chained to the bed and marked out for butchery before changing his mind and being released. The prosecution has conceded that Mr Brandes was an apparently willing victim. But they insisted he was not of a sound mind when he accepted the offer, and moreover, they alleged, Mr Meiwes was aware of this. Mr Brandes' boyfriend told the court that Mr Brandes, with whom he said he enjoyed a normal sex life, had no apparent desire to die. Time for contracts German experts say that while there may be hundreds of people with "cannibalistic tendencies" in Germany, only a tiny proportion of those would be willing to see their fantasies through to their fatal conclusion as Mr Brandes apparently did. The kind of internet message boards where Mr Meiwes placed his own request still exist, but the real cannibals on these sites appear to be hard to find. Messages which request people for slaughter are often written off as jokes by other participants, many of whom are keen to stress that their interest in cannibalism is only a fantasy. While Mr Meiwes received dozens of responses to his postings, he is believed to have only met four other men beside Mr Brandes, none of whom went through with the act. There were fears that should the court punish Mr Meiwes lightly they would unwittingly encourage real cannibals. But Mr Meiwes's defence lawyer argued that is his client was put away for life, the true horror of murder will be belittled. Harald Ermel has said that murder "always happens against somebody's will". Mr Ermel advised those planning similar forays into the world of cannibalism to ensure both parties draw up a contract before the act takes place. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sat Mar 6, 2004 @ 1:16am |
 Coolness: 340385 | thaaaaaaats fucking sick.
that guy should be lobotomized. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» little_sarah replied on Sat Mar 6, 2004 @ 11:58am |
 Coolness: 122160 | oh my goodness.. how could someone do that? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» michaeldino replied on Sat Mar 6, 2004 @ 4:34pm |
 Coolness: 69695 | *vomits* |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sat Mar 6, 2004 @ 4:40pm |
 Coolness: 686310 | *starts working on his contract* |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cloud9ine replied on Sun Mar 7, 2004 @ 10:46am |
 Coolness: 139440 | thing is though, is that cannibalism ISNT illegal in Germany, so technically, the guy didnt do anything "wrong". What it boils down to is a Kovorkian-type of thing: killing someone by request. Someone's obviously not wanting/willing to live anymore if they ask Meiwes to kill them - whether it be for their OWN pleasure or because they dont want to live anymore.
He'll be out within 5 years (I think thats what was said), but I am sure he will not be released to live on his own - he will probably have a supervised life. I'm sure German officials are working to have their laws changed. you'd be surprised at how many countries do not have a law against cannibalism. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sun Mar 7, 2004 @ 11:19am |
| Coolness: 340385 | Kovorkian did mercy killing.
Those people we're in bad medical shape, this guy was perfectly healthy.. well, maybe not mentally.. But he shoulda gone to a hospital for that. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cloud9ine replied on Sun Mar 7, 2004 @ 11:22am |
| Coolness: 139440 | still though, if you think of it - these people were willing and wanted to die. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Mar 8, 2004 @ 1:04pm |
| Coolness: 194745 | they needed professional psychiatric help
i agree with Ian, when one has a good reason to want to die such as totally incapacitating medical condition is one thing.. wanting to die, in a very sick fashion mind you, without such a reason is abnormal... those people needed to be institutionalized and receive extensive psychiatric care. then again, the eugenistically-inclined darwinist would say this is simply self-elimination of defective genes from the pool  |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon Mar 8, 2004 @ 2:04pm |
| Coolness: 340385 | ....
CASTRATE THE MENTALLY ILL!! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Phoenix replied on Sat Mar 13, 2004 @ 8:48pm |
 Coolness: 82410 | Originally posted by ! ZE`EV ! ...
then again, the eugenistically-inclined darwinist would say this is simply self-elimination of defective genes from the pool I believe that a person should have the choice to end their own life with or without justification. None of us had the choice to be born and I'm sure we can all acknowledge the inevitability that someday, somehow we will all die. Upon accepting this fate, we should, if we choose, have the right to end our lives prematurely. I agree that suicide is a very selfish and cowardly act however it is a personal decision made by someone who obviously has lost the will to go on living and consequently, I believe that society should respect that personal choice. Why is it worse if a suicidal person decides to end his or her life in a way that satisfies another individual's desires (regardless of how abnormal they may be)? Is canibalism really much worse than eating other animals? what about the phrase: "judge not 'less ye be judged"? None of us are innocent... and hypothetically, most people would consume human flesh if it was for their survival. We kill and consume other species just as brutally as 'Hannibal' does to his victims... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Apr 19, 2004 @ 2:52pm |
| Coolness: 194745 | Eating one's own kind, especially for pure enjoyment of it (i.e. not for survival reasons), is devolving to a state of say, insects. I'm pretty sure most mammals in nature dont practice cannibalism. And no shit its worse, other animals are below us on the foodchain, just like wolves eat the sheep, we eat other animals for survival, except instead of hunting, we breed them like the oversizedly brainy homo sapiens that we are. Doesn't mean we should go around trying to eat eachother. Sheesh :) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Apr 19, 2004 @ 4:54pm |
| Coolness: 686310 | What about the people who would be interested in trying human meat as a new experience? To taste something that's never been tasted before. People do it all the time with drugs, taking them as part of a new experience, to try new things, etc.. 'cause personally, meat is my favorite food, and I would love to try human just once to see what it tastes like. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» beercrack replied on Mon Apr 19, 2004 @ 4:56pm |
 Coolness: 72155 | mange ta main garde l ' autre pour demain |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Apr 19, 2004 @ 6:19pm |
| Coolness: 194745 | just before this develops further...
fred: I CAN ASSURE YOU IM NOT TASTY :D :D :D |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon Apr 19, 2004 @ 6:19pm |
| Coolness: 340385 | then why would girls want you.....? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Apr 19, 2004 @ 6:23pm |
| Coolness: 194745 | obviously it wasnt fluids or epidermis i was talking about :P
we talkin prime rib steak styles here... ehehe |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Apr 19, 2004 @ 6:25pm |
| Coolness: 686310 | And Ze'ev, I thought I had already said before, in a very similar discussion about canibalism, that I would have absolutely no interest in "eating you" in any way, shape or form.  |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Apr 19, 2004 @ 6:26pm |
| Coolness: 194745 | phew, i forgot :) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Apr 19, 2004 @ 6:27pm |
| Coolness: 194745 | ... even if i was a big creamy chocolate cake? :lol :lol |
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