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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon Oct 28, 2002 @ 2:08pm
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actually i twised his arm.
or was that a chicken wing i ate yesterday...?
hmm.. you don't bathe in BBQ sauce, do you?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Mon Oct 28, 2002 @ 2:34pm
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DJs aren't musicians but they certainly are artists, at least good ones who layer tracks together to "pseudo-create" something original. But of course, some DJs are musicians since they produce their own original material.

But it's true. Most DJs are nothing. They just download some mp3s, burn them to CD and have the beginning of each song overlap the ending of the song currently playing. But there are DJs that go beyond that.

DJ A-Trak is one such example
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Oct 28, 2002 @ 2:38pm
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Yeah, it's a fine line between musician and artist. In this case, the diffrence between DJ and musician is like the diffrence between a painter and someone who can use photoshop filters. Both of them are good at it and can do amazing things, but one of them is way more involved with the art and it means a lot more to them than it ever could to the other because it comes 100% from within.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Mon Oct 28, 2002 @ 2:40pm
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ouph

What if someone spends 3 hours with filters and created something far beyond your wildest imagination compared to some dude with a gigantic afro (You all know who I'm talking about) who dabs paint here and there on TV and creates a forest.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Oct 28, 2002 @ 2:42pm
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It's still a totally diffrent aproach and not as personal. Like the diffrence between someone playing guitar and someone using a synth. Sure a person can put a lot into synth work, but it'll never be as real and organic as "human".
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Mon Oct 28, 2002 @ 2:44pm
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I don't believe that. Organic or synthetic, it's still YOU who created the artwork and no one else BUT you.

With the case of a synth vs. a guitar, the only difference is that the guitar player actually PLAYS the notes ad-lib, where as a synth master has to preprogram everything, but it is still original work with the same level of effort and detail and emotion and creativity.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» da_instagatah replied on Mon Oct 28, 2002 @ 2:48pm
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this thread is funny.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Oct 28, 2002 @ 2:50pm
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Find me a synth than can compare to the feeling behind the solos in November Rain, or Nothing Else MAtters. It's something intangibele that can't really be described. It's the feeling behind every little nuance that comes out with playing that doesn't requier thinking about pitch bending, velocity, envelope type, decay, sustain, etc.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Mon Oct 28, 2002 @ 2:51pm
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but wouldn't that sheer level of customizability allow an artist to poor even MORE emotion into his/her work?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Oct 28, 2002 @ 2:53pm
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No, because it can never happen on the spot the first time, it has to be thought out, edited and re-edited untill it comes out "perfect".
Take blues. That's all improvisation, straight from the heart/soul of the musician with the guitar.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Mon Oct 28, 2002 @ 2:54pm
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what if you record the movements live?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Oct 28, 2002 @ 2:58pm
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It still very rarely comes out sounding "real" unless it's a good simulation of a real instrument. Take NIN's stuff. The stuff that has piano is mostly synths, but it comes out with emotion, whereas synths are cold, mechanical and "inhuman", even if you play the exact same thing.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Mon Oct 28, 2002 @ 3:01pm
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but electronic music isn't supposed to be "real" instruments, its supposed to allow an artist to be limitless in the sounds he can create, which I would think that the same amount of detail and effort is put into electronic as a rock song.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon Oct 28, 2002 @ 3:10pm
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it's obvious that you like the sound of a guitar over a synth, but that's you.
i find a synth sounds much nicer.. it's more interesting to me.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Oct 28, 2002 @ 3:17pm
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Wait untill the stuff that me, ScottyP, Eric and Oliver are doing gets released. You won't believe that the "synth" sounds are mostly guitar. Alex knows what I'm talking about. Synths sound good yes, but they don't cary the same feeling as an instrument that creats it's sound through real analog interaction, nothing simulated or emulated.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Agent_Yogurt replied on Tue Oct 29, 2002 @ 9:42pm
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i think dj's are only good if they have style and play the part. dj's that are old and come in to spin then leave, that's gay cause they should be apart of the scene they are playing for so people can relate to them.
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