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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Thu Dec 11, 2003 @ 12:43am
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not that i'm choosing sides here, but you seem to get pleasure from watching and laughing at other people's bad situations. yeah, alot of drug addicts are pretty pathetic, but such people have enuf to deal with without people like you constantly reminding them of how stupid/pathetic you think they are.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Thu Dec 11, 2003 @ 12:45am
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I don't get pleasure at all, I am thoroughly DISGUSTED by it. If people don't want to be offended, they should quit. Or die.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Thu Dec 11, 2003 @ 12:52am
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well, what purpose does constantly exspressing your disgust serve? some people are disgusted by homeless people. does that make it OK for them to go up to every homeless guy on the street and be like "your a pathetic looser, get a job u dirty fuck". maybe they are pathetic, loosers, jobless, and dirty - but that's not who they ARE as people, thats the situation the've gotten themselves into (for a whole slew of reasons). so why further degrade people who are already in bad states? maybe some thoughts are better left unexspressed
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Thu Dec 11, 2003 @ 12:54am
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People CHOSE to become this... It's like saying I shouldn't make fun of racists because I might offend some racists, ones who haven't realized they are wrong yet...

I am not completely cold, I do feel bad for some people, mainly the families who have to deal with how fucked up their kids are becoming and the people who have been ripped off...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» hayley replied on Thu Dec 11, 2003 @ 12:59am
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it doesnt help to be constantly told ur discusting and worthless cuz ur a drug user ... or a junkie or wtv... it just makes you do more drugs... I belive that drugs main use is to obscure a persons problems from both themself and from society....by disregarding the problem they can function "properly" and by adding on to the problem..theyll just resort back to their initial means of self-defence...DRUGS...so in reality ur not only being an asss...ur making THEIR problem worse
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» hayley replied on Thu Dec 11, 2003 @ 12:59am
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and man...trust me...NO ONE choses to become a drug addict..its one of those tings u wish upon ur WORST enemy
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Thu Dec 11, 2003 @ 1:01am
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sorry, I don't care... I actually HOPE some of those people DO die, like the ones who have ripped off my friends.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» hayley replied on Thu Dec 11, 2003 @ 1:07am
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wtv this is a hopeless cause...both u and i are too stubborn to undertsand teh others perspective...well agree to disagree then...n e hoots...enough Scotty bashing...ive had enough of THAT for one day...everything in tact??? yes??? good!! my egos a little bent outta place....but n e hooots....
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Thu Dec 11, 2003 @ 1:09am
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whatever.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Thu Dec 11, 2003 @ 1:11am
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The idea that anyone would CHOOSE to become addicted to any substance is rediculous. People behave the way they do for a whole slew of reasons, ranging from social influence to underlying psychological processes. The condition of the mind and the condition of one's situation in life are exetremely interalated, to the point where one is almost a reflective image of the other. People who develop severe subastance abuse problems most often do so due an unhealthy state of mind, which in turn leads them to an unhealthy situation in life. Low sense of self-value, depression, stress, and hopelessness are some of the psychological states likely to lead to substance abuse problems, and these people didn't choose to abuse substances any more or less then they chose the negative mindsets that caused them the problem in the first place. As haley said, by degrading addicts you are reenforcing the psychological states that led them to be addicts in the first place.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Thu Dec 11, 2003 @ 1:13am
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scotty knows, scotty doesn't care.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Thu Dec 11, 2003 @ 1:15am
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it's people who think "trying" isn't going to do any harm that are the idiots who get addicted.

sorry, but once you try, you've lost your innocence, and my sympathy.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Thu Dec 11, 2003 @ 1:34am
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I find this series of posts on another message board. Maybe some of you can read this and develop some EMPATHY and COMPASSION:

Posted on November 17:

just got outta rehab on friday. my name is smakaddict and i no longer do smack. i'm clean and i have no desire to do dope whatsoever. and dope is what i lived for, for as long as i can remember.
it IS possible to stay clean. it's easier than i ever would've thought it woudl be. they say the relapse rate is 80% (20% stay clean). i dont know if i'll stay clean forever, probably not, but i'm not touching the stuff for a long time. not cuz i'm scared, not cuz i'm brainwashed, not for somebody else, but just cuz i dont want to. meds they gave me in detox made me go through NO WITHDRAWL! that's right, none at all. i was shocked. subutex (suboxone) works fabulously.
i wanna go back to rehab. i loved it there. i miss it. i miss the place, i miss the meetings, i miss the lifestyle, most of all i miss the people. i met so many amazing people there. i'm counting down the days til my best friend who i met in there and the cute guy i met and all of my friends get out of there. i miss them so much. more than i miss the dope, hell i dont miss the dope at all. its just that i'm so lonely now, i used to use the dope to cure my loneliness, but now that's gone and i am just alone. i miss my friends...
ok i am rambling, i'll stop now. but the point is, it IS possible to get off dope and stay off dope. fuck statistics, i've seen enough cases to know that it can be done.
the reason why so few people stay clean is cuz most of them dont want to. they love their dope and til they find soemthing to replace it, something else that makes them happy, they are not going to be able to stay away from it. that's just how it is, or at least how i've seen it and experienced it.

i am so lonely.

Love,
-H

posted on December 7:

posted here a while ago, and sadly i regret to admit that i have since relapsed. i tried to OD with 4 bags with no tolerance. and that didnt work so i shot up 2cc's of air. that didnt work either so i went for the pills....
long story short i'm still alive. and i'm miserable. 3 rehab centers later and i feel more alone than ever before. the cute guy and my "best friend" that i mentioned before never called me. i've lost every friend i thought i had. i am so alone and so depressed and i have nothing left to live for.
please if anybody wants to talk my AIM name is boygeorge84. i just need somebody who cares whether i live or die. please...
Love,
-H (now and forever, that shall remain my name. it's who i am - a junkie. i will always be a junkie.)
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» eltopo replied on Thu Dec 11, 2003 @ 6:53pm
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loneliness is the worst
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» kitkat replied on Thu Dec 11, 2003 @ 6:57pm
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first off...needles in and of themselves do not give you aids..it is sharing needles that does that - hence there are free needle exchanges for intravenous drug users.
i agree..shooting up is a perhaps a more dangerous way to administer drugs than many others..but there are ways of lessening the risk, and practicing clean hygiene....
also- needle use and even addiction do not automatically cause you to become a thief or to break the trust of ppl around you..this depends on the person you are (as well as the degree of addiction and the type of drug you are addicted to)
after using a needle, do you automatically become a different person? i dont think so.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» eltopo replied on Thu Dec 11, 2003 @ 8:38pm
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scotty why don't you do us all a favor and kill me?

my psychologist told me i was born an addict, so that's garaunteed evil... i'll be waiting

do the right thing
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mali replied on Thu Dec 11, 2003 @ 9:13pm
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Your psychologist sounds like a idiot. How could they say that
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Thu Dec 11, 2003 @ 11:32pm
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I think I'd be doing you a better favor if I killed the people who provided you with the drugs
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ontheroadagain replied on Sat Dec 13, 2003 @ 4:50am
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"and man...trust me...NO ONE choses to become a drug addict..its one of those tings u wish upon ur WORST enemy"

ok....you obviously haven't been doing drugs for long enough. After awhile you give in and ACCEPT the fact that you need something so you are choosing to be an addict. I could say no to cigs but it involves pain...it's easier to just smoke.

Our nation is concerned with health yet we do everything we know isn't healthy because it's EASY.

Unless you start doing heroin when your under 14, you must know that it's the big smack daddy of all fucking drugs....you already know it's highly addictive. If you do it, it's cuz you WANT to risk being addicted. I won't touch meth or heroin because i know it's addictive, i know i have an addictive personality and i have trouble saying no to things that feel good.

Don't pity the junkie unless someone held him/her down and pushed the needle in....or it was passed on through birth. Anything else is absolving someone of free will.

I've gambled a lot and every time was a choice. I also quit CRACK after a couple of months because it wasn't helping me go where i wanted to in life.

And on the topic of smelly, pushy, got a fucking quarter even though i have $200 fucking docs on....fuck you. You chose to "be a rebel" and live outsidde the norm, be a fucking man and make your own way in life. IF you're a single mom with 5 kids i'll help you out but a 22 year old who is healthy and can work doesn't get ANY pity from me. I've done all sorts of stupid shit in my life but it was MY CHOICE, no one forced me to do it. You create your own life.

If your best friends are fucked up, help them out but after awhile they have to stand on their own two feet. I hate the fact that i'm sometimes dependent on my best friend, but i'm dependent cuz i wanna eat well and pay my bills.

Humans are into escapism, change society so that we don't feel the need to escape...it's the only way.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ontheroadagain replied on Sat Dec 13, 2003 @ 5:11am
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i forgot to mention that my views stem from over 12 years of drug use and years of addiction. I never randomly bummed cash off of hardworking peeps though....i paid for my own addictions. My friends were there to help me but those who only had the addiction in common with me were left by the roadside.

Now that i'm no longer addicted I see how giving up shit you know is bad for you is a choice.
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